i know like dick-all about napoleon

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My my, at waterloo Napoleon did surrender
Oh yeah, and I have met my destiny in quite a similar way
The history book on the shelf
Is always repeating itself

Waterloo - I was defeated, you won the war
Waterloo - promise to love you for ever more
Waterloo - couldn�t escape if I wanted to
Waterloo - knowing my fate is to be with you
Waterloo - finally facing my waterloo

My my, I tried to hold you back but you were stronger
Oh yeah, and now it seems my only chance is giving up the fight
And how could I ever refuse
I feel like I win when I lose

Waterloo - I was defeated, you won the war
Waterloo - promise to love you for ever more
Waterloo - couldn�t escape if I wanted to
Waterloo - knowing my fate is to be with you

And how could I ever refuse
I feel like I win when I lose

Waterloo - I was defeated, you won the war
Waterloo - promise to love you for ever more
Waterloo - couldn�t escape if I wanted to
Waterloo - knowing my fate is to be with you
Waterloo - finally facing my waterloo

Steely Zan (AaronHz), Monday, 27 December 2004 00:40 (nineteen years ago) link

this is one of the all time great thread titles.

g--ff (gcannon), Monday, 27 December 2004 00:49 (nineteen years ago) link

I know about napoleon's dick, but that's about all.

teeny (teeny), Monday, 27 December 2004 00:50 (nineteen years ago) link

when asked to invade China replied: 'don't wake the sleeping tiger'

had a Napoleon complex

fcussen (Burger), Monday, 27 December 2004 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

in the end, though, what was napoleon's "waterloo"?

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 27 December 2004 03:20 (nineteen years ago) link

"Able was I..."

weather1ngda1eson (Brian), Monday, 27 December 2004 03:40 (nineteen years ago) link

More lyrics: Warlike Lads of Russia

When Napoleon Bonaparte to Moscow he went, with all his troops and all his men his mind was heavy bent. To take the Russian country now they were full employed, but the Russians fought against them and they soon did them destroy

T'was in a little while that the Russians did attack, against Bonaparte and all his men they fought them and they drove them back. The action being so hot left and right and front and rear, oh damn you all says Bonaparte I'll stay no longer here.

Chorus
Those warlike lads of Russia they fought all in one mind, made Bonaparte to run and leave his troops behind. Those warlike lads of Russia they fought all in one mind, made Bonaparte to run and leave his troops behind.

Away then went poor Bonaparte as fast as he could run. The poor Frenchmen looked after him he left horses, cannon, guns. His boxes and his matches, amunition wagons too, he left them all behind him well what could poor Boney do?

Away then went poor Bonaparte as fast as he could ride, the poor Frenchmen looked after him saying oh its very hard. To think he'd take us all out here to leave us to our fate, you'd think he'd ride along with us to help up in our state

Chorus

Here's twenty thousand men that they have killed and they have taken, likewise ten thousand horses and two hundred bits of cannon. No more to Paris, Lyon or French Flanders I'll advance, for if I do I'm sure to know they'll teach me how to dance

And its now to conclude and to finish up this song, the poor Frenchmen in Russia they wish they had a hold of him. The cruelest death they'd put him through to e're a man befall. Oh damn you all says Bonaparte I'm clear of you all!

Chorus



Maria (Maria), Monday, 27 December 2004 04:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Was once lost in late 1980's San Dimas, Ca when two young boys (Bill S. Preston, Esq. & Ted "Theodore" Logan) mistakenly misplaced him after a trip to the mall. Ironically, he ended up at local water park "Waterloo."

chaki in charge (chaki), Monday, 27 December 2004 04:23 (nineteen years ago) link

I've seen his socks at the Bata Shoe Museum. They washed them, but kept the dirt and sweat left over from the washing process, which is also on display. I'd say that's getting pretty damn close to the little bugger.

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Monday, 27 December 2004 05:03 (nineteen years ago) link

I know about napoleon's dick, but that's about all.

-- teeny (teen...), December 27th, 2004.

was it vertically-challenged, like the rest of him?

contribute, Monday, 27 December 2004 05:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Actually, I believe Napoleon did suffer from that condition where you have an extra x chromosome, making him short and giving him small breasts and a very tiny penis. Or so it's been speculated.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Monday, 27 December 2004 05:31 (nineteen years ago) link

I think vertically-challenged, if it ever meant anything before being a punch line in a "political correctness gone mad" standup act, means something different with respect to a penis.

You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Monday, 27 December 2004 06:02 (nineteen years ago) link

in the end, though, what was napoleon's "waterloo"?

-- s1ocki

jesus christ this is like the perfect roffle. i think you're hustling us.

g--ff (gcannon), Monday, 27 December 2004 06:24 (nineteen years ago) link

http://ring.cdandlp.com/maiato/photo_grande/5603464.jpg

contribute, Monday, 27 December 2004 07:13 (nineteen years ago) link

He was once robbed by a team of midget performers and a young boy.

A Russian couple who were impersonating Spanish aristocrats once tried to assassinate him, but only managed to kill one of Napoleon's doubles.

The Yellow Kid, Monday, 27 December 2004 08:45 (nineteen years ago) link

He was considered quite flakey, but very sweet underneath his many layers.

The Yellow Kid, Monday, 27 December 2004 08:48 (nineteen years ago) link

I think s1ocky is quoting something...

Steely Zan (AaronHz), Monday, 27 December 2004 09:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Actually, I believe Napoleon did suffer from that condition where you have an extra x chromosome, making him short and giving him small breasts and a very tiny penis. Or so it's been speculated.

Napolean was 5'6 which was average for France at that time. Man boobs can afflict anyone regardless of chromosomal status.

T Smell, Monday, 27 December 2004 17:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Only Klinefelter syndrome, however, gives you that extra li'l "something" (i.e. micropenis).

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Monday, 27 December 2004 17:45 (nineteen years ago) link

I will wait for the Oliver Stone biopic starring Leonardo DiCaprio in 2010.

miccio (miccio), Monday, 27 December 2004 17:47 (nineteen years ago) link

He was considered quite flakey, but very sweet underneath his many layers.

Was? Anyway you slice it,

http://www.tomecat.com/emily/napoleon1M.jpg

he's a little sweety.

Michael White (Hereward), Monday, 27 December 2004 17:53 (nineteen years ago) link

There's a Napoleon library at the Museum Of Jurassic Technology in LA that has all the Napoleon books you need.

Gator Magoon (Chris Barrus), Monday, 27 December 2004 18:55 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
he was a dick!

RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 11:56 (seventeen years ago) link

More lyrics about Boney (this song makes me cry):

THE GREEN LINNET (Trad)
Curiosity led a young native of Erin
For to view the lone banks of the Rhine
Where an empress he saw and the robe that she was wearing
All over with diamonds did shine
No goddess in splendour was ever yet seen
To equal this fair maid so mild and serene
In soft murmers she cried, "Oh, my linnet so green
Sweet Boney, will I ne'er see you more"

The cold frosty Alps you did freely pass over
Which nature had placed in your way
At Maringo, Beltona around you did hover
All Paris rejoiced the next day
It grieved me the hardships you did undergo
The mountains that you travelled all covered with snow
But the balance of power your courage laid low
Sweet Boney, will I ne'er see you more

The crowned heads of Europe they were in great splendour
And they swore they would have you submit
But the goddess of freedom soon had them surrender
And they lowered their standards to your wit
Old Frederik's colours to France he did bring
His offspring found shelter under your wing
That year at Vienna you so sweetly did sing
Sweet Boney, will I ne'er see you more

What numbers of men there were eager to slay you
Their malice you viewed with a smile
Their gold through all Europe was found to betray you
They joined with the Mamelukes on the Nile
Like ravenous vultures their vile passions did burn
The orphan they slew and caused the widow to mourn
But my linnet he is gone and he never will return
Sweet Boney, will I ne'er see you more

I have roamed through the deserts of wild Abyssinia
And could yet find no cure for my pain
I will go and enquire at the isle of Saint Helena
But soft whispers murmer " 'tis vain "
Come tell me ye muses, come tell me in time
What nations I must rove my green linnet to find
Was he slain at Waterloo in France or on the Rhine?
No - he's dead on St Helena's bleak shore

Samuel KB Amphong (Dada), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Has anyone ever read the novel he wrote?

DV (dirtyvicar), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 18:31 (seventeen years ago) link

he was a dick!

True enough.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 18:48 (seventeen years ago) link

"women are nothing but machines for creating babies."

RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 19:07 (seventeen years ago) link

seven months pass...
i still know like dick-all about napoleon

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 4 January 2007 02:43 (seventeen years ago) link

French. Short. Dead.

Pat Robertson Mescalin (noodle vague), Thursday, 4 January 2007 02:47 (seventeen years ago) link

freaky.

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 4 January 2007 02:50 (seventeen years ago) link

this is one of the all time great thread titles.

m@p (plosive), Thursday, 4 January 2007 02:52 (seventeen years ago) link

A high-school girlfriend was convinced that Napoleon had a 1" dick. I find this difficult to believe.

milo z (mlp), Thursday, 4 January 2007 02:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Nah, I wouldn't describe N as "freaky". He was as morally uptight/conservative as most 19th C. "liberals", yes? A bloomy flower of that whole "educashee knows better than U DOO, pheasant", right?

Pat Robertson Mescalin (noodle vague), Thursday, 4 January 2007 02:53 (seventeen years ago) link

milo are you sure she was talking about napoleon

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 4 January 2007 02:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Didn't he have a rare syndrome that gave him female hormones, and thus breasts, towards the end of his life?

You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Thursday, 4 January 2007 02:55 (seventeen years ago) link

i know all about napoleon's boner parts

latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 4 January 2007 02:56 (seventeen years ago) link

She told me it was a 'good size,' slocki.

milo z (mlp), Thursday, 4 January 2007 02:56 (seventeen years ago) link

It's the wrong board to call that syndrome rare, louis,.

Pat Robertson Mescalin (noodle vague), Thursday, 4 January 2007 02:56 (seventeen years ago) link

more here!

latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 4 January 2007 02:59 (seventeen years ago) link

It's weird that he might have died because of arsenic in the wallpaper.

Beth S. (Ex Leon), Thursday, 4 January 2007 03:03 (seventeen years ago) link

It's not very weird though, is it?

Physics of a Bisexual (noodle vague), Thursday, 4 January 2007 03:05 (seventeen years ago) link

slocki, have you been exiled from montreal yet?

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 4 January 2007 03:18 (seventeen years ago) link

for napoleon ignorance?

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 4 January 2007 07:11 (seventeen years ago) link

i ordered the frank mclynn book m white suggested. soon this thread will be obsolete.

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 4 January 2007 16:55 (seventeen years ago) link

this is worth a read.

Dude, the 18th Brumaire is about Napoleon's nephew.

The Real Dirty Vicar (dirtyvicar), Friday, 5 January 2007 21:40 (seventeen years ago) link

I wuv Napoleon... he is one of history's most fascinating characters. He writes constitutions, he writes novels, he wins battles. Rock on!

The Real Dirty Vicar (dirtyvicar), Friday, 5 January 2007 21:44 (seventeen years ago) link

nine years pass...

why was it such a big deal that he killed louis antoine? was nobility really shocked at that pt about execution of nobility even on spurious charges? or had napolean somehow earned a reputation as being somewhat favorable or at least not hostile towards nobility at that pt? was he dissociated enough from the revolution that it would've been a new hostility - or just that there had been a period of quiet?

Mordy, Thursday, 29 September 2016 21:36 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

Yeah, very much agreed. It's a long haul commitment of a listen at this point but I appreciate how deep he's already laid the groundwork on a number of interrelated issues as well as wider developments providing further context. The last bio I read of Napoleon's was some years ago -- thorough, very much looking at him with a (well-deserved) angry eye at all his destruction and loss of life. This so far seems to be taking a good neutral stance that won't ignore that, or so I trust.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 17 October 2017 23:47 (six years ago) link

does it have an answer for my antoine question above?

Mordy, Tuesday, 17 October 2017 23:58 (six years ago) link

Hasn't gotten there yet.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 00:32 (six years ago) link

four years pass...

Armor of a soldier wounded by a cannonball at the battle of Waterloo in 1815.pic.twitter.com/ynp8qmW43I

— Figen (@TheFigen) January 3, 2022

mark s, Tuesday, 4 January 2022 20:18 (two years ago) link

'wounded'

two sleeps till brooklyn (ledge), Tuesday, 4 January 2022 20:22 (two years ago) link

tis but a scratch

mark s, Tuesday, 4 January 2022 20:26 (two years ago) link

also: napoleon wasn't *unusually* short, he was probably c.5'7"

myth set in bcz (a) the french pre-metric inch was a little longer that the imperial inch and (b) the brits liked to fvck around w/hilarious lies

mark s, Tuesday, 4 January 2022 21:23 (two years ago) link

the short lived Napoleon II was 6 foot tall by the time he was 17. But it didn't get him anywhere!

calzino, Tuesday, 4 January 2022 21:32 (two years ago) link

Horrible Histories is the source of most my knowledge about Napoleon - including the bit about him actually being not that short.

I Can't See Gervais In My Mind (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 January 2022 21:35 (two years ago) link

Also the possible reason he lost Waterloo being an especially painful bout(?) of piles.

I Can't See Gervais In My Mind (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 January 2022 21:37 (two years ago) link

"nothing except a battle lost can be half so melancholy as a bout (?) of piles"

mark s, Tuesday, 4 January 2022 21:43 (two years ago) link

must've been a distressing end for him

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Tuesday, 4 January 2022 21:49 (two years ago) link

even the combined forces of Britain and Prussia couldn't hurt him as much as those grapes

calzino, Tuesday, 4 January 2022 21:54 (two years ago) link

the wince of grapes hot

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Tuesday, 4 January 2022 22:02 (two years ago) link

https://www.rct.uk/sites/default/files/styles/rctr-scale-1300-500/public/collection-online/5/a/184651-1409668411.jpg?itok=lNGBLLz7

this was Boney's Sun Ra like cloak that was taken from his luggage after Waterloo, apparently he'd wore it during the Egyptian campaign. If twitter had been about in the early 19th century he'd have wore it for a selfie with a "LOL. I'm living in your heads rent free, so called Great Britain" post.

calzino, Tuesday, 4 January 2022 22:31 (two years ago) link

His love for Josephine when she didn't wash before sex.

His popularity around Europe which sin't the way he was portrayed in England.

HIm getting arsenic poisoning from the wallpaper in his exiled room

Him not being as short as some people liked to portray him.

Him being part responsible for teh fate of Haiti once it liberated itself which like sucks to high heaven

Him being Corsican.

Him looking a lot like Rod Steiger

Stevolende, Wednesday, 5 January 2022 10:42 (two years ago) link

Especially popular in Ireland, of course.

Yes, he re-introduced slavery after the Revolution, although Robespierre et al had hummed and hawed about abolishing it for a long time.

I Can't See Gervais In My Mind (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 January 2022 10:54 (two years ago) link

Also he was so palsy-walsy with Robespierre's brother that he was under considerable suspicion post 10 Thermidor.

I Can't See Gervais In My Mind (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 January 2022 11:01 (two years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FINS9BWWUAwPiq4?format=png

mark s, Wednesday, 5 January 2022 11:17 (two years ago) link

keep expecting this to be a Ridley Scott revive

Khafre's clown (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 5 January 2022 12:19 (two years ago) link

it's a "wounded by a cannonball" revive

mark s, Wednesday, 5 January 2022 12:53 (two years ago) link

"wounded followed very shortly after by death" is still wounded imo

Khafre's clown (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 5 January 2022 12:57 (two years ago) link

robespierre screaming fleshwound ten minutes after his head was cut off

mark s, Wednesday, 5 January 2022 13:10 (two years ago) link

Not possible with his bad jaw.

I Can't See Gervais In My Mind (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 January 2022 13:11 (two years ago) link

Another thing, "Where can we put Napoleon where we can be sure he can't cause any more harm?" "Oh, I know, how about an island 6 miles off the coast of Italy?" "Yes, that'll do!". Duh.

I Can't See Gervais In My Mind (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 January 2022 13:18 (two years ago) link

this twitter-thread is a wee bit "hi! cavalryman expert here, cavalrymen only do this when they’re in extreme distress" (and also promoting a book) but it's reasonably interesting so:

Thanks to social media this is one of the most famous battlefield relics from Napoleonic era. It captures the moment of a man's death. It is not a joke or a Monty Python sketch about a scratch. It might not seem so funny if we knew more about the man and his death. 1/10 pic.twitter.com/ZAzAmuAw6Z

— Tony Pollard (@ProfTonyPollard) January 5, 2022

mark s, Wednesday, 5 January 2022 21:37 (two years ago) link

Over next 10 days bodies stripped & then buried or burned. Every item of hardware & clothing was recycled or sold & the field became a tourist attraction

Long before the bone merchants moved in, many bodies at Waterloo were stripped of their teeth. This was such a bonanza for Britain’s denture industry that all false sets made from human teeth were known as ‘Waterloo teeth’ for years after

And also decades later the mineral rich death soil was being shipped to farmers in Yorkshire and Somerset

calzino, Wednesday, 5 January 2022 21:48 (two years ago) link

unlike this cannonball i see my fleshwound joke sailed safely over tom d's head

mark s, Wednesday, 5 January 2022 21:54 (two years ago) link

Wearing corpse dentures would really creep me out but I guess it's just one of things you got used to in the old days.

this is great https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-age-of-napoleon-podcast/id1223795973?mt=2

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, October 17, 2017 11:42 PM (four years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Still going after ninety-one episodes. I'm afraid to ask if anyone has made it through them all, I'd be fine with one greatest hits episode.

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Wednesday, 5 January 2022 22:00 (two years ago) link

i actually beached in the napoleon stretch of the revolutions podcast (he just invaded egypt) but that's mainly bcz i'm so busy at the moment that i realised i was putting episodes on and then not taking in a single word

mark s, Wednesday, 5 January 2022 22:11 (two years ago) link

Wearing corpse dentures would really creep me out but I guess it's just one of things you got used to in the old days.

this is great https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-age-of-napoleon-podcast/id1223795973?mt=2

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, October 17, 2017 11:42 PM (four years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Still going after ninety-one episodes. I'm afraid to ask if anyone has made it through them all, I'd be fine with one greatest hits episode.

― recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Wednesday, January 5, 2022 2:00 PM (thirty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

im not a huge podcast listener and stopped after 20 or so but was just thinking about getting back into this because I very much enjoyed it. very thorough.

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 5 January 2022 22:36 (two years ago) link

unlike this cannonball i see my fleshwound joke sailed safely over tom d's head

It did not.

I Can't See Gervais In My Mind (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 January 2022 22:43 (two years ago) link

hm

mark s, Wednesday, 5 January 2022 22:44 (two years ago) link

Actually you're right, I C what U did there.

I Can't See Gervais In My Mind (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 January 2022 22:46 (two years ago) link

i absolutely love that podcast and have learned a ton. he just finished the battle of austerlitz

goole, Wednesday, 5 January 2022 22:50 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

Always guaranteed to bring a tear to my eye, sorry, my ee.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfbNX9p9-BE

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Monday, 10 April 2023 18:55 (one year ago) link

Still happily sticking with The Age of Napoleon podcast as mentioned a few years back. It's been a truly marvelous achievement -- the 'side' stories over several episodes on Nelson and L'Ouverture alone were essential.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 10 April 2023 18:58 (one year ago) link


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