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We were stuck under the Plaid Cymru banner for a good hour!

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 17 February 2003 13:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

Is it because I are Welsh?

― Pete (Pete), Monday, 17 February 2003 13:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

What about the effects on the parliamentary elections in May? What Blair may be able to shrug off might damage McConnell and his boys; will the Nats try for the moral highground and leave themselves wide open to the charge of supporting dictators? Also lot riskier for the Lib Debs in a parliament where they actually wield some clout, as part of the coalition than where they can sit and snipe for the outside.

― alext (alext), Monday, 17 February 2003 13:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

Notice how you've not heard Gordon Brown saying a fucking thing? Theres a reason for that.

― Lynskey (Lynskey), Monday, 17 February 2003 13:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

brown = putin's mole

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 17 February 2003 13:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

Tom E - your question is good, but the business about Great Power is not that relevant to what Kennedy or anyone says about the particular issue of the proposed war.

I think we shouldn't go to war, whether we are a great power or not. Whether Kennedy agrees with me, I can't say.

― the pinefox, Monday, 17 February 2003 13:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

PF - I see as implicit in Kennedy's stance that slavish adherence to US foreign policy is a bad idea. Blair OTOH thinks that strategically it is a neccessary idea to maintain British influence. Kennedy's unspoken position is - stuff British influence, let's elide quietly into Europe.

I agree that he never articulates this so maybe I'm dreaming it.

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 17 February 2003 13:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

Notice how you've not heard Gordon Brown saying a fucking thing? Theres a reason for that.

Blair - I want war!
Brown - Oooh, dunno, it's a bit pricey.
Blair - Tough. Cough up, Gordon.
Brown - *grumble* *moan* *hands over vast wads of cash

I doubt that Brown opposes the war in Iraq. And even if he did? Does he have to write a blank cheque to the MoD in this circumstance whether he likes it or not?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 17 February 2003 14:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

What impact will their positions on war have on the careers of ordinary people in america and britain?

― gareth (gareth), Monday, 17 February 2003 14:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

DOOM.

But we knew that.

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 17 February 2003 14:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

I tend to agree that we should slide into Europe. The current US crisis has seemed to simplify this issue (which seemed very complicated not long ago).

I still don't think that this (important) issue has much to do with whether we should attack Iraq.

― the pinefox, Monday, 17 February 2003 14:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

I have my escape route to Finland ("for the duration") already planned. Second choice: wildest Wales (hmmm ... was Tom's Plaid Cymru banner an omen?)

― robin carmody (robin carmody), Monday, 17 February 2003 23:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

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