Coil s/d c/d etc

I know you're not asking me but I have the CD and no complaints about either (except the artwork being a bit dark maybe) ?

the cd artwork looks like it was made at kinkos

OK, So the artwork is definitely dark on the vinyl too. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and say that it may be closer to Stapleton's original art but the band must have increased the saturation for a reason to bring out the vivid red that I always associate with this record.
The mastering and pressing are "fine". They exist in that uncanny valley where there's nothing fundamentally wrong about them but they lack life and spark. Your mileage may vary with that assessment depending on how much of an audiophile you are. I'm not able to pinpoint specifically what I DON'T like other than that it's the first time I've listened to Loves Secret Domain and it's felt like a bit of a chore.
The additional tracks are interesting but not really essential. If you loved Swanyard then you'll probably enjoy them. Only the guitar only version of Teenage Lightning feels like something that could sit on Stolen and Contaminated Songs.
The wooden box was nice and given how much people are trying to flip them for it's probably a better investment than most cryptocurrency...

it's probably a better investment than most cryptocurrency...

For sure. Coil prices are consistently crazy and they seem to have a lot of very well off fans. I sold a few Coil records early in the pandemic when I was in a big panic about having no income and my copies of Musick To Play In The Dark 1 & 2 raised enough to cover my mortgage for a few months.

i fear vinyl-geddon may be on the horizon. 40 week turnarounds and cost of manufacturing reaching a point where the dealer price is going to breach what shops are prepared to pay (at least for new / unknown / very niche artists).

― stirmonster, Thursday, 3 June 2021 20:16 (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink

Off topic, but I'm sure we've all noticed that the price of vinyl has been going up in recent years. If vinyl becomes less popular with mainstream consumers (I know that sounds super snobby but there you go) then will it become less expensive for underground artists to put records out? My understanding is that the main reason that the price of vinyl has gone up and pressing is taking longer is because of major labels clogging up the pressing plants.

My CD copy of LSD is finally in the post after having ordered it in April

My understanding is that the main reason that the price of vinyl has gone up and pressing is taking longer is because of major labels clogging up the pressing plants.

i fear it is going to be a very long time before the majors jump off what they perceive to be a vinyl gravy train. i also have a feeling purchasers of major label vinyl have a more price elastic relationship with it, so are more likely to be prepared to pay very high prices. i hope i am proved wrong.

My take - The smaller indies who are pressing under 2000 copies of records are about to stop pressing vinyl.
Let's say they release 5 records per year with an average of 1000 copies pressed. That means they're out $50,000 (plus anything they advanced artists for recording) for up to 18 months before seeing a return from distributors.
I don't see how that's tenable for most labels. It's peanuts to a major label though. They'll churn out Ghostbusters soundtracks for Record Store Day as long as people are willing to buy them.

Regarding pricing. I honestly think it was kept somewhat artificially low for a long time but the Discogs flippers have proven that people will pay. Especially for re-issues or limited editions. Example - I recently missed the announcement for a new press of a record for '92. The pre-order from the label ($19.99) sold out so any stores who had copies started selling it for $70. The label did another pressing to stop the gouging but yeah. People are paying that money pretty regularly it seems.

yup the Diseno Corbusier reissues on Vinyilssimo immediately went oop and now are up to $70 each for new copies

but i think the number of people prepared to pay $70 is very low. looking at Diseño Corbusier's El Alma De La Estrella repress as an example, it has sold 10 times on discogs in 2 years.

£36.83 Average
£37.23 Median
£43.39 Highest
£25.98 Lowest

i agree people will pay HIGH prices for limited editions and reissues but it is depressing with regard to new releases. it can't end well.

^^ that's the one I missed, cheapest copy shipped in the US is $86. I do realize it was reissued in 2012, it's been a while.

Excellent intereview with Stephen Thrower.

I do however vehemently disagree with Mark Pilkington's take on "Further Back And Faster" which has always been one of my LSD highlights, and also, while I am very crusty averse the didgeridoo use on LSD never bothered me.

https://thequietus.com/articles/30197-coil-loves-secret-domain-reissue

that's a great interview, thanks. agreed as well re: "Further Back" which totally rules

I mean

We hung out with the Buttholes several times, and Sleazy provided them with their infamous penis surgery projections.

!!!

noted the Love's Secret Domain remastered from original sources seems like shots fired against the Infinite Fog release.

lovely interview, seem like nice boys.

The good people at Waxtrax sent me a bandcamp DL code as the vinyl is delayed, so been enjoying the remaster ahead of one day receiving the vinyl.

can you buy the waxtrax remaster from anywhere in the UK?

I managed to score a vinyl copy of MtPItD from juno recently btw

Further Back is probably my favourite track on LSD

Well well well, look what was added earlier this week.

https://archive.org/details/coil-barbican

bittersweet. i had a ticket for that but was sick and couldn't go.

delayed again till supposedly august. man come on

im an anti steely dan /fleetwood mac guy now ... rumors represses causing further delays smh

you ain't seen nothing yet, sadly. delays will get way, way worse.

Maybe the last new record I will buy

my remastered wax trax Love's Secret Domain CD is almost here, just got the EU import bill - I'll compare it with the Infinite Fog one once I get it

I so adore the concept of COIL hanging out with the Butthole Surfers.

okay, my four CDs of Love's Secret Domain: 1991 < 2001 < infinite fog < wax trax

the Infinite Fog remaster doesn't sound bad at all, but the wax trax one clearly sounds better/more defined/stereo in my headphones.

oh - and if your CD player can handle it, the wax trax one has a hidden track before the first one

nice horse, would be a shame if it rotorvated

— ians website (@statusset) August 19, 2021

wax trax lsd reissue finally arrived last week, drew's essay is freakin awesome

Still waiting for mine (since February, I think!). Tracking shows it's en route, though!

it's so good, sounds great too

I put the sticker on my guitar, fuck the resale value

love the Annie Anxiety and Charles Hayward interview snippets, yes

wax trax lsd reissue finally arrived last week, drew's essay is freakin awesome

― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Monday, September 13, 2021 10:41 AM (eight hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Got mine this weekend and agree 100%!!

Tracking on mine has said "Shipping Label Created, USPS Awaiting Item, Chicago, IL" since Thursday. You'd think after an eight month delay Wax Trax would, I dunno, ship the thing the same day they printed the label.

i wish this would get a uk release. shipping is just too much to justify buying it.

To be honest - That's as likely to be USPS not scanning the label as it is to be the label not dropping it at the post office. I sent a record 15 blocks recently that wasn't entered into the system until 2 weeks later when it was scanned in Seattle (for context, I like in Brooklyn).

That's good to know, thanks, and yeah, that's happened to me once or twice. I receive the USPS delivery digest and it's never really accurate.

Anyway sorry to derail, just eager to a/b this one with the Infinite Fog version!

a comment by ryan martin (dais records co-owner) in the "official" coil FB group hints that a reissue of moon's milk in four phases is in the works

Autumn Equinox - Amethyst Deceivers, Winter Solstice - (no other title), Spring Equinox - Moon’s Milk or Under an Unquiet Skull, and Summer Solstice - Bee Stings...they were all great. Live Two also included a version of Amethyst Deceivers

a comment by ryan martin (dais records co-owner) in the "official" coil FB group hints that a reissue of moon's milk in four phases is in the works

Oops there I go posting to soon!
Surely MTPITD Vol 2 needs to come first!

I have the original CDs, but the remaster of the first was actually really nice, and now I want an updated 2!

agree

same, remaster was A+

if they reissue Moon's Milk they better add that awesome bonus disc with "Coppice" etc

There's that reissue from the other year at least

https://www.discogs.com/release/13635450-Coil-Copal

true, and surprisingly affordable still!

MTPITD2 reissue out on november 29, according to dais

Nice!

Worth buying just for Batwings

Oh nice, thanks manuel! Can't wait.

h/t to StanM for uncovering/discovering these (crossposted from the Ambient Recommendations thread)

https://coh-official.bandcamp.com/

8 Soisong broadcasts have been released already this year - by Ivan Pavlov (COH), not clear how many of this was made when Peter Christopherson was still alive but they're interesting and quite magical at times. Some fleeting beats, 60s chansons or Asian pop songs may also drift in and out, but I'd classify this as ambient, overall.

they are extremely cool and mysterious, a great listen