US Politics June 2021 - "Where we're going, we don't NEED bipartisanship"

ah yes the well known antifa motto "all politicians are bastards"

You know what I find interesting?

How both Nancy Mace and this “antifa” criminal both sign their i’s with dots that are a bit of an upside-down u. https://t.co/0Ux7STJufi pic.twitter.com/XV4aZNbZh8

— Pia Guerra (@PiaGuerra) June 1, 2021

Ohhhh, the circled A stands for antifa!

Biden: ...with two members of the Senate that vote more with my Republican friends pic.twitter.com/XxlQ7WdrFA

— Acyn (@Acyn) June 1, 2021

Manchin’s gonna be rootin tootin mad, Sinema will yell at Schumer again for not getting Tommy Tuberville on board.

"B-b-b-but they can't just make Manchin or Sinema do the right thing!!"

I don't know, that's a yp not a mp. Just pretend they're trying to pass a bill to nationalize our health care system or cut off military aid to Israel or Saudi Arabia, and you'll figure out what to do.

— Will 🦥 Menaker (@willmenaker) June 1, 2021

ooooh the mask almost fell off

im begging you all to watch the first 5 seconds of this video https://t.co/qjHGaCJ8g8

— There are no plans for a worldwide release. (@Lunacial) June 2, 2021

im begging you all to watch the first 5 seconds of this video

that's okay, thanks

"I'm begging you, jump in this toxic sludge for just five seconds."

Tucker says "Everyone agrees that segregation was the b...worst thing this country ever did."

lol @ people thinking that is some sort of "gotcha"

https://www.businessinsider.com/arizona-pennsylvania-lawmakers-to-receive-tour-of-gop-audit-operation-2021-6

*** After $1,400 stimulus checks:

-- 42% decline in food shortages
-- 43% decline in gauge of financial instability
-- +20% decline in anxiety & depressionhttps://t.co/Q8iN0xQ2XZ

— Jeff Stein (@JStein_WaPo) June 2, 2021

Shocking how well “giving struggling people money” works to benefit their mental and physical health every single time.

a 50% reduction in PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY can i get an amen folks, g'damn this nanny state and keeping ppl from dying

The greatest trick in Democratic politics is being pulled by figures like Mark Warner and Chris Coons. They allow Manchin, and to a lesser extent Sinema, to take all of the heat while they aggressively undermine progressive ends under the radar. e.g., https://t.co/caonqqKF73

— Jeff Hauser (@jeffhauser) June 2, 2021

i have a lot more time for manchin and even sinema than coons and warner tbh.

My attempt to Photoshop Joe Manchin’s face over Lee Majors as The Fall Guy did not go well.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/02/trump-blog-page-shuts-down-for-good.html

Guess he wasn’t getting enough adoration there.

“It was just auxiliary to the broader efforts we have and are working on”

the new “currently in between jobs”

xxpost "payment due: June 1st"

one again, it all comes down to ratings, or lack thereof:

Former President Trump ordered his blog to be taken down after it was mocked for its low online traffic, The Washington Post reported on Wednesday.

The Post reports that Trump ordered his team on Tuesday to permanently shut down the 29-day-old blog "From the Desk of Donald Trump," citing its low readership and the possibility it could get in the way of a social media platform he still plans to launch later this year.

On the last day it was live online, Trump's blog was shared 1,500 times on Twitter and Facebook, according to the Post. Trump's tweets would often garner millions of retweets, comments and shares before and during his presidency.

Huh, it's almost like Twitter was populated by significant numbers of bots, trolls and bad actors, using algorithms that pushed the worst tendencies to the most visibility, to the detriment of US democracy.

insert "and Facebook" after "Twitter"

One problem with living in the liberal bubble (which in many ways is, quite frankly, great) is that there's this Schroedinger-like overlay between a reality in which D J Trump Jr is still the most formidable individual in American politics and another in which he's a washed-up old hack everybody's embarrassed still exists and there's no way for me to collapse the wave function

it could get in the way of a social media platform he still plans to launch later this year.

It'll be fun to see how he releases his missives until this 'platform' is up & running. He needs constant attention like the rest of us need oxygen, I think it's fair to say that he'll be back online by the end of the week - somewhere, somehow

StanM OTM about the timing.

... how much more do you think it costs to add one web page to your site?

meanwhile,

.@kyrstensinema on why she supports the filibuster: “The reality is that when you have a system that is not working effectively... The way to fix that is to fix your behavior, not to eliminate the rules or change the rules, but to change the behavior.”https://t.co/GhfQd7KQcX

— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) June 2, 2021

that woman is deeply, increasingly unpleasant

Kyrsten Sinema, “lawmaker”

She makes Manchin look like John Quincy Adams.

as hoos said, that's an extremely green party way of seeing the world.

There are so many dumb people who have figured out public speaking enough to give a superficial sheeb of intelligence and logic to their dumb as fuck thoughts. Pence springs to mind as well.

Pence was also a talk show host iirc

What do you expect from these people, they are all just purchased sycophants or whores for some of the worst greedy vampires on the face of the Earth. You got to raise millions to be able to run in these races...'citizen' legislators they 'AINT. Calling them whores is not really quite fair, as whores work for a living. Being dumb as a brick is a feature, not a problem.

sometimes you just have to get it off your chest and tell the world**

**disclaimer: the world does not pay the slightest attention to ILX.

'tis true.

I heard it pointed out a few months ago that Manchin is actually a democrat in what would very easily become a republican seat so there is a semi excuse for his existence since things would automatically swing further right without his being there. & that doesn't hold true for Sinema who was in a seat more likely to go to another democrat. Also with her sexuality you might think she might recognise the danger for marginalised people in her continued behaviour along these lines. Or is that a too abstract there but for God go I or walk a mile in their shoes type inability to transpose oneself into the other position. But seems at least a tad hypocritical.

I was way past due for a new displayname, so thanks GD and your typo

netanyahu is trying to pull a 1/6/21, and i just read a npr tweet that casually mentioned this

The NFL pledged to stop "race-norming" — which assumed Black players started out with lower cognitive function — as part of a $1 billion settlement of brain injury claims. The practice made it harder for Black retirees to qualify for payouts.https://t.co/ToEtJhauGr

— NPR (@NPR) June 3, 2021

the two things aren't connected, i'm just trying to say, WTF

Well done, my foolish dude

Breaking WaPo: The FBI is investigating Postmaster General Louis DeJoy in connection with campaign fundraising activity involving his former business, according to people familiar with the matter and a spokesman for DeJoy. https://t.co/3rEhr0uRAx

— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) June 3, 2021

FBI agents in recent weeks interviewed current and former employees of DeJoy and the business, asking questions about political contributions and company activities.

Prosecutors also issued a subpoena to DeJoy himself for information. https://t.co/s2Pxp4Cqvc

— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) June 3, 2021

"as hoos said, that's an extremely green party way of seeing the world." explain? confused by this

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/556350-west-virginia-to-give-away-guns-as-vaccine-incentive

save a life, take a life, great!

At least they aren't handguns. That would be beyond self-parody.

Shot through the heart
And you're to blame
You give vaxx a bad name

afaict the entire western united states, democrat or republican or libertarian or green alike, share the belief that all of the problems in the world stem from individual belief and action. collectivism in any shape or form does not exist as a concept to them.

what about the costco collective

it has been 70 hours since he held an election rally

I didn't mean that literally, of course, except in a physically-left-the-White-House sense. I wouldn't even say in a media sense: CNN's obsession is still there, with occasional glimpses of waning.

But do you think about him much these days? Without giving it any thought, I probably meant that in a personal sense.

haha got em

At 83, I am close to losing hope that I will live to see a flat tax.

— Donald Rumsfeld (@RumsfeldOffice) April 18, 2016

The House passed the resolution to set up a Jan. 6 select committee Wednesday on a near party-line 222-190 vote.

Only two Republicans, Reps. Liz Cheney (R-WY), Adam Kinzinger (R-IL), joined the Democrats.

since 5 of the 13 members are to be selected by pelosi "in consultation" with McCarthy, this guarantees that McCarthy won't even bother to consult. Cheney and Kinzinger will both be on the panel, and then I guess the other 3 will go to more democrats

Even if McCarthy doesn't bother to consult, Pelosi would be smart to offer seats to Republican representatives beyond just Cheney and Kinzinger. Whether they accept would be up to them.

no she wouldn't

at this point, that would literally be the single dumbest thing she could do beyond pre-emptively assigning Gosar and Greene to it

bipartisanship with active, knowing monsters is not a virtue

A statement from the family of Donald Rumsfeld: pic.twitter.com/AlKYxVvqgF

— Donald Rumsfeld (@RumsfeldOffice) June 30, 2021

Definitely true that a lot of lives were forever changed by Don Rumsfeld.

I know that we know that.

at this point, that would literally be the single dumbest thing she could do beyond pre-emptively assigning Gosar and Greene to it

Even if McCarthy doesn't bother to consult, Pelosi would be smart to offer seats to Republican representatives beyond just Cheney and Kinzinger.

― it is to laugh, like so, ha! (Aimless), Wednesday, June 30, 2021 4:56 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

why? there are about 500 people (maximum) in the united states who would have their mind changed by a gesture like this, it would make the commission less effective if the gesture were accepted.

Ianucci has repeatedly said he was pleased (fsvo) to be out of making satire about politicians by the current era

it would make the commission less effective if the gesture were accepted

the post I responded to suggested McCarthy would not cooperate at all; given that hypothetical and the fact that every other R rep already voted against the existence of the commission, chances approach 100% that no other R reps would accept a seat. so, this would not be a problem.

the gesture would provide a simple easy answer to the inevitable Republican whining that the commission did not represent the Republican perspective. your estimate that there are only 500 people who are 'in play' politically in a nation of 330 million is so hyperbolic as to be ludicrous. having that simple easy answer ready does help to undercut the Republican narrative, which narrative actively de-legitimizes government and the democratic process that elected it. it's worth some effort and the tiny risk to accomplish that undercutting.

i feel like you're doing a bit as someone who watches cnn at this point

I don't have cable. I don't visit the cnn website above once a month, generally for a specific article that was linked from ilx. you can try to beat me with that stick, but it is a stick that doesn't exist.

ok but it's a good bit.

caek

there is no stick

Aimless, c'mon, Cheney and/or Ratzinger are the only people who would accept the offer.

This will be the time that catching a reactionary in their hypocrisy is an effective strategy. It can be celebrated alongside Neil Armstrong stepping on the moon as a human first.

xp to caek well that certainly answers the points I made.

Aimless, c'mon, Cheney and/or Ratzinger are the only people who would accept the offer.

I already said this before you did.

okay, so need for you to follow up

"they didn't want the commission to exist so we didn't invite them" takes less time.

Alfred, go to here and start reading carefully. Then tell me what follow up you would like.

Aimless, I would suggest you stop going after allies.

That wasn't a counterpunch, but a request for clarification. You basically repeated a point I had made, but prefaced it with "Aimless, c'mon", which indicated you thought you were stating something I needed to accept as germane.

I pointed this out. Your answer was "okay, so need for you to follow up". I couldn't figure out what follow up you thought was needed. I know communication during a pile-on gets all balled up, but believe me, I wasn't being snide so much as trying to figure out what you were driving at and whether you had jumped in partway or not.

just the same old story of people talking fast and past one another.

i feel like all the above concerns, whatever their merit, are surely outweighed by the total destructiveness of having even one republican on any committee that's supposed to investigate or report on any issue whatsoever. flashbacks to every committee where in watching the live coverage, you shuttle back and forth for 1-3 days between a world of facts and argument, and a world of cynically deployed falsehoods, insinutations, and allusions to conspiracy theories. i'm getting an elevated heart rate just thinking about it.

no shock here: https://www.wfla.com/news/florida/federal-judge-puts-florida-deplatforming-law-on-hold-cites-first-amendment/?

from another article, lol

“I won’t put you on the spot and ask you if you’ve ever dealt with a statute that was more poorly drafted,” the judge asked lawyers representing DeSantis’ administration.

I'm not sure how this will hold up in reliability terms, but this is not a good look for Manchin et al.
https://www.channel4.com/news/revealed-exxonmobils-lobbying-war-on-climate-change-legislation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v1Yg6XejyE

Lol oh wow

Mr McCoy names 11 senators who he says are “crucial” to ExxonMobil: Senator Shelley Moore Capito, Senator Joe Manchin, Senator Kyrsten Sinema, Senator Jon Tester, Senator Maggie Hassan, Senator John Barrasso, Senator John Cornyn, Senator Steve Daines, Senator Chris Coons, Senator Mark Kelly and Senator Marco Rubio

…

Mr McCoy described Senator Joe Manchin as “the Kingmaker” in the Senate and he says he spoke to his office on a weekly basis.

I really hope this gets some ink in American outlets.

Problem is that not enough of the Americans who care live in West Virginia. Manchin’s more likely to be succeeded by a coal baron than anyone who makes climate change a priority.

well, she's got nothing else to do anyway

NEWS: PELOSI has appointed @Liz_Cheney to the select committee

— Jake Sherman (@JakeSherman) July 1, 2021

Mr McCoy names 11 senators who he says are “crucial” to ExxonMobil: Senator Shelley Moore Capito, Senator Joe Manchin, Senator Kyrsten Sinema, Senator Jon Tester, Senator Maggie Hassan, Senator John Barrasso, Senator John Cornyn, Senator Steve Daines, Senator Chris Coons, Senator Mark Kelly and Senator Marco Rubio

don't you just love bipartisanship?

heh, i overestimated the integrity of mccarthy. not only is he not "consulting", he's committed to rescinding the committee post any republican who participates in the commission.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/defying-mccarthys-ban

it's the straw that broke the camel's back, but it's an indicator of something. i don't know how many times i can be surprised by the GOP. they're just fascists now, for real. i know that's been the case. but holy shit, the other political party in the US is now openly trying to take power by any means possible, including violent, and they know we know it.

Well yeah. And there’s a reasonable chance they can do it, too. The seizing power part at least. Beyond that, it gets kind of murky.

Do not, however, underestimate their ability to shoot themselves in the groin. They are evil, but they are also mostly really stupid and venal.

That they are. Meantime, there's allegedly some new Trump-approved social media network happening and lol

If you're wondering "does this new 'social media platform' benefit from Section 230, as virtually all entities that use third party content do," the answer is yes pic.twitter.com/pbRERtcahd

— Jane Coaston (@janecoaston) July 1, 2021

(I say this fully aware that many totalitarian regimes have been led by stupid venal people.)

Anyway, time for a July thread innit?

I'm surprised she didn't ask Kinzinger, since he openly said Mconnell's threat was bullshit

put them both on, then fewer republicans will be on committees

Anyway, time for a July thread innit?

if i may do the honors, just a sec

GETTR is a really bad name

are the posts just called 'posts'?

looks like a total twitter knockoff

Can We Try De-Exhuming McCarthy, US Politics July 2021