Guitars... what you've got / what you want

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xp those Hamers are awesome, I had a friend who was a professional musician and flat out told me they were the best made production guitars of their era.
I have pictures of pretty much everything in the list, I think. These are some nice ones - the Squier in the centre is a 1983 SQ serial from Fender Japan, my favourite of all. I sold the Greco thinline on the left after I picked up a similar but older one for $150 on a visit to Japan.
https://i.imgur.com/FHifgdi.jpg

assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 1 June 2021 05:31 (two years ago) link

I also bought the Greco Strat in Japan, had visited Ochanomizu to buy a decent Fender Japan Strat for a friend, and thought well I don't need anything for myself unless there's a 70s Fender copy somewhere - the last store on the street was full of metal guitars and this one lonely 78 Greco for about $250, when I tried it I knew it was coming home. I had to get on the Yamanote line in rush hour and go to Shinjuku with one guitar on my back and one held to my front, it was a lot of fun.

assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 1 June 2021 05:34 (two years ago) link

Ha, sounds awesome. I know people swear by those early Japan squiers but I don’t know much about about them, honestly. Pickups sound good?

Spottie, Tuesday, 1 June 2021 05:48 (two years ago) link

To be honest I switched out the bridge for an inexpensive but awesome ToneRider Hot Classic. The neck "WRHB" is a bar magnet approximation from the Greco production lines, but I put 1M pots on the neck circuit and used the trick of backing off the hidden screws a way - it ends up being a bit like a P bass pickup. Anyway the end result sounds divine, not like a WRHB but more like a Strat neck pickup.

assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 1 June 2021 06:26 (two years ago) link

Also anyone who needs a P style bass should get onto the Ibanez Roadstar copies from the 80s. Same production line as Fender Japan, absolutely wonderful instruments, STILL underpriced although inflating like everything else at the moment.

assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 1 June 2021 06:32 (two years ago) link

"Vintage michigan guitar" search of course takes me right to Elderly's website, a place I went to often in the early 00's.

You went to the website often, or to the actual store?

I live a few miles from the place and it's a great place to wander around for a couple hours. One of those shops where $200 acoustics are next to $4000 ones out on the floor.

joygoat, Tuesday, 1 June 2021 12:49 (two years ago) link

most of my guitars are complete garbage, my main one is a MIK 198x Squier Strat which isn't even mine (someone leant it to me in 1991 but never asked for it back). i do have a nice Aria acoustic and the exact same Ibanez bass as Johnny Fever (except my one is pale green). been playing guitar a lot recently though and currently yearning for something half decent with a thicker sound and a chunkier neck than the strat

building a hole (NickB), Tuesday, 1 June 2021 13:44 (two years ago) link

1996 or 97 American Standard Tele. It's indestructible and was my only electric guitar for about 20 years, and has major sentimental value but I really don't like the bridge pickup. Then I got:
2018 Epiphone ES-335 Pro. Love it but can tell that the hardware (tuners) is of lesser quality. But it sounds great and the price was right.
2017 D-28. This like a 5th child for me. A very generous gift from a family member. Love it.
??? year Deering Goodtimes banjo. Fun but it feels flimsy, is way louder than I need it to be and I don't know shit about banjos.

I don't feel a need for more guitars. Fave pedals include a Carbon Copy delay, JHS Clover pre-amp, mini tube screamer and a Roland space echo.

tobo73, Tuesday, 1 June 2021 14:17 (two years ago) link

xxp the actual store. I had a friend that lived in Cassopolis, and we'd drive up and over from there. Friend had a few old guitars and would occasionally be trading or buying something. I agree, it's a great place. They put it all out there and let you play.

bogo jumbo junbi boba (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 1 June 2021 14:31 (two years ago) link

I think those strat plus’s had Schaller tuners. Might have to do a little digging to figure out which replacement tuners would work in those without have to drill new holes (unless you don’t care about that). In general, Fenders are fun to work on if you enjoy that kinda thing. Wonder if a modern fender bridge would swap one to one with the one in yours.

― Spottie, Tuesday, June 1, 2021 1:22 AM (nine hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Ok yeah they are Schaller's. It also has an LSR nut, which it looks like I would have to replace with another LSR nut. Any opinions on the gold Lace Sensor pickups? I think I might just take this somewhere for a set up and clean it really well. For someone who doesn't really care about the technical aspects of guitars, it always seemed too foreign to me.

Heez, Tuesday, 1 June 2021 14:48 (two years ago) link

I’d like to try Lace Sensors sometime. There’s the Clapton association but also Kim Deal and Andy Gill…

Joe Bombin (milo z), Tuesday, 1 June 2021 15:33 (two years ago) link

I go back and forth a lot on my 2015 ES-335 Studio. Tuning stability isn't always great, and also sometimes I don't like the feeling of the fretboard (torrified maple). I wonder whether upgrading to a higher-end ES-335 or maybe a vintage ES-335 would make a big difference, or if maybe I should try a Guild Starfire or an Eastman T386 (which cost the same or less than I could sell my ES-335 Studio for). I could also make some upgrades to the one I have. I like the sound of both pickups a lot.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 1 June 2021 15:59 (two years ago) link

yah ive never played the lace sensors either, but they have a really loyal following. you're pretty much stuck with the LSR nut since it has to be routed differently, yeah.

another option is if you arent really in love with the specs on that strat plus model you could sell it as-is and buy a used american standard strat which will have more... standard parts. they have roughly the same monetary value at this point in time.

Spottie, Tuesday, 1 June 2021 16:13 (two years ago) link

Eastman makes a higher end 335 with Lollar pickups from the factory. You could probably come close to getting one selling the Gibson given their price increases.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Tuesday, 1 June 2021 16:25 (two years ago) link

i just took it apart and am cleaning it. also bought a new lsr nut. i think i'll get it all freshened up and decide if i want to keep it or sell it. kind of like that hgtv show.

Heez, Tuesday, 1 June 2021 17:10 (two years ago) link

re: the Guild discussion upthread. Some years ago I used a Guild 12-string but never warmed to it. Wasn't Clapton a Guild user for a while?

I had an acoustic show over the weekend. All my friends seem to getting fancy new Taylors. I borrowed one and didn't like it - obviously a well-made luxury instrument, but the neck is so slippery that I couldn't really feel where I was. Hoping I am not just doing a sour grapes thing where I claim to not like an instrument that I have no hope of affording any time soon.

Nostradamusferatu (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 1 June 2021 17:54 (two years ago) link

2. 1974 Gibson SG. I got this last year right before lockdown. It's in decent shape, I love the skinny neck, and I wanted something from my birth year and this was relatively cheap compared to most other options. I replaced all the pots and capacitors and jack which feels sacrilegious but they were all scratchy and loose but I kept the switch. Ian Mackaye and Carrie Brownstein, some Iommi, not really Angus Young.

3. A 2017 Telecaster Deluxe neck on the routed out body of a 1998 MIM telecaster, with P90s. I had built this with Lace Matt Pike humbuckers and the full 'Jimmy Page' wiring with four push-pull pots but learned I don't like humbuckers that much. I didn't really know these guitars existed til 10 years ago or so and I love the weird hybrid bastardized neck/body combo and 'fuck it just route everything and make a giant pickguard' Fenderness of it.

― joygoat, Saturday, May 29, 2021 7:55 AM (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink

do 70s SGs have skinnier necks? i might need to look for one of those if so.

Also love the bastardized tele deluxe

Spottie, Tuesday, 1 June 2021 18:15 (two years ago) link

I have never purchased a guitar, but I have three: Electra Telecaster copy (1974, gift from my parents when I was 16); Yamaha SE612 (1989, gift from my ex-wife) and a crappy Series 10 short scale that belonged to my late brother, on which I am attempting to learn slide.

I'm primarily a bass player, of which I also own three: Dano Longhorn (newish); MIM P-Bass (2006), and Fender "cowpoke" P-Bass (1995.) This is my favorite and most played. Kinda rare, active pickups, jazz-like 22 fret neck.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 1 June 2021 18:27 (two years ago) link

xxp Notable Taylor players according to wikipedia: William Ackerman, Axel Bauer, Jade Bird, Zac Brown, Dave Carroll, Steven Curtis Chapman, Tom Fletcher, Jon Foreman, Russ Freeman, Andy Gullahorn, Michael Hedges, Sam Hui, Alan Jackson, Jewel, Emily King, Leo Kottke, Dave Matthews, Travis Meeks, Jason Mraz, Dolores O'Riordan, John Petrucci, Prince, Gabriella Quevedo, Steve Stevens, Call All Destroyer

bogo jumbo junbi boba (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 1 June 2021 18:40 (two years ago) link

That list is missing Taylor Swift. Probably the most prominent Taylor player who is named Taylor.

Nostradamusferatu (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 1 June 2021 19:14 (two years ago) link

I learned to play on an epiphone jeff "skunk" baxter acoustic guitar, which had a very small neck and body. Sounded very thin overall. That is now at my brother's house for his kids to learn. I have 1 electric guitar -- an early 00s PRS Standard 22 (I think?). I got it maybe 20 years ago in high school. At the time, I mostly wanted something that played like that little epiphone, i.e. a small neck and low action. It was also the cheapest PRS I had ever seen, on sale for something like $1100. The maroon and gold probably had something to do with it. I remember being overwhelmed by all of the "made in" variations for Fender guitars, and I was leaning toward a G&L. Single coils probably sounded less forgiving, and I believe a Creed-loving friend was with me and convinced me that PRS guitars are good. I do not love this guitar, but I'm grateful to have a decent enough instrument to play. I'd like to get an old tele instead.

My acoustic is an early OOs Larrivee L-05. I played with a friend that had maybe 5 to 7 amazing guitars at any given time. He sold this to me for $500 as a favor but also because he hated the epiphone so much. He'd replaced the tuners with some fancy matte black ones but switched them back before giving it to me. I don't think the B string has ever been in tune when I pick it up, and I wonder if that is why he'd replaced those tuners. I still love this one. It felt like a big upgrade over the epiphone, anyway.

I wish I'd bought the oldest guitars I could afford at the time. They'd even be 20 years older now. The oldest wood in this photo is definitely on the floor.

https://i.imgur.com/MtTz0pg.jpg

bogo jumbo junbi boba (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 1 June 2021 19:32 (two years ago) link

I almost exclusively play acoustic at home these days, mostly alone, sometimes with a mate. I've a Lakewood (German brand) auditorium and a Collings small body. Electric I play a Japanese Squier Jagmaster I bought in the early 90s, and an Epiphone Dot because Galaxie 500.

Duke, Tuesday, 1 June 2021 21:57 (two years ago) link

Eastman makes a higher end 335 with Lollar pickups from the factory. You could probably come close to getting one selling the Gibson given their price increases.

― Joe Bombin (milo z), Tuesday, 1 June 2021 16:25 (yesterday) link

Do you know what the model is called? Def interested in this.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 2 June 2021 01:08 (two years ago) link

https://dl.dropbox.com/s/t2vtp4u8kgejwek/20210601_204428.jpg

1962 Martin D-18
Stratocaster Ultra
Modulus M92/5
Lane Poor fretless Minima Electric

Want:
Gibson SG
Fender Jazzmaster
Rickenbacker bass
Fender Jazz bass

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Wednesday, 2 June 2021 01:55 (two years ago) link

if we had a guitar sword fight, I feel that Lane Poor bass would win

bogo jumbo junbi boba (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 2 June 2021 02:04 (two years ago) link

probably would be the best use for it, can't say that it plays great

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Wednesday, 2 June 2021 02:12 (two years ago) link

Do you know what the model is called? Def interested in this.

The T59 - there’s also a T58 (Gretschy) and T64 (ES-330)

Joe Bombin (milo z), Wednesday, 2 June 2021 02:15 (two years ago) link

Nice mix moodles. What’s the story with the Martin?

Spottie, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 03:05 (two years ago) link

it's my dad's, I learned to play on it during my tween years, then ran off with it later on.

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Wednesday, 2 June 2021 04:25 (two years ago) link

Ah cool

Spottie, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 05:31 (two years ago) link

There's something subtly a little cheesy looking about the Eastmans, but it's very subtle and I might get past it. Actually the T58 is beautiful, I just don't want those pickups.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 2 June 2021 12:55 (two years ago) link

Maybe it's just the script Eastman logo. I think I might want a T59 now.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 2 June 2021 13:00 (two years ago) link

my daughter has one of their hollow-bodies, whose model number I don't have handy, and it's a thing of beauty. I love getting my jazzy noodling out on that guitar.

tobo73, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 13:22 (two years ago) link

People are asking insane prices for the Gibson I have on Reverb, like double what I paid a few years ago. I can't imagine they're actually fetching that much.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 2 June 2021 13:30 (two years ago) link

do 70s SGs have skinnier necks?


That, the harmonica bridge and the oversized-looking headstocks seemed to be commonly invoked about the shittiness of the norlin era ones.

Subjectively it feels thin to me so I measured with digital calipers (in mm beccause the thing goes to 128th in fractional inches) width at the nut and the thickness at the 12th fret:

Epiphone Dot 43 x 23
SG 40 x 26
Deluxe 42 x 23.5
Tele 42 x 22.5
Strat 40 x 23.5

So thin but the thickest at the 12th but it has an unbound ebony fretboard so feels much slippier than the epiphone with cheap binding and a squarer profile

joygoat, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 13:34 (two years ago) link

xp looks like it's selling consistently for 1300-1450 on reverb. it does seem like prices for everything have ticked up tho.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 14:20 (two years ago) link

yeah when I look at the actual sale prices it's more in line with what I paid, guess there are just a couple ridiculous listings. Prices are ticking up though.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 2 June 2021 14:21 (two years ago) link

prices for everything are up, plus reverb increased fees to net 10% and people are trying to recover

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 2 June 2021 15:27 (two years ago) link

i thought it was 5%

Spottie, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 15:33 (two years ago) link

have a Dean Dave Mustaine Zero guitar.

want one with a fuckin whammy bar or one that can play itself cos I suck.

Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 2 June 2021 15:38 (two years ago) link

Spottie - Reverb fee is 5%, then add reverb or PayPal processing fee. then deduct shipping since you listed with free shipping ;-)

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 2 June 2021 16:05 (two years ago) link

I’m going to actually try selling stuff local instead of via Reverb next time I have something to sell. I hate Craigslist but shipping keyboards and guitars is such a PITA.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Wednesday, 2 June 2021 16:27 (two years ago) link

the first time I sold a guitar and shipped it I failed to appreciate how costly and difficult it was if you don't know what you're doing and basically lost a lot of money on the sale

Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 2 June 2021 16:28 (two years ago) link

Dimensional weight is a motherfucker.

I had a guitar shop in Washington ship me an Ampeg VT40 combo once - it probably weighed 100 pounds on its own and had free shipping. They must have been desperate to make it go away.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Wednesday, 2 June 2021 16:31 (two years ago) link

i think the last time I sold a guitar and amp I literally hand-delivered it to a friend cos fuck shipping that stuff.

Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 2 June 2021 16:32 (two years ago) link

Spottie - Reverb fee is 5%, then add reverb or PayPal processing fee. then deduct shipping since you listed with free shipping ;-)

― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, June 2, 2021 9:05 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

ah, got it. i think offerup is a good option, at least for gibsons and fenders since you'll get enough eyes on those. also offerup for amps for sure. reverb prob better for higher end stuff or more rare.

Spottie, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 17:34 (two years ago) link

*casts the shape of a PRS headstock and bird fretboard inlays into the pits of hell and eternal damnation*

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 2 June 2021 19:00 (two years ago) link

I really like the birds! Did not know until a few years ago that they're all different species!

I've never actually played a PRS. Their S2 series has always intrigued me.

peace, man, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 19:07 (two years ago) link

The best-looking S2s also lack birds :/

https://prsguitars.com/products/s2_electrics

peace, man, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 19:08 (two years ago) link

ha I was actually just looking at an S2 standard sunburst on Craigslist and thinking how much I'd like that guitar with a different headstock, which inspired the post

i wonder if you could put a gibson headstock on it?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 2 June 2021 19:15 (two years ago) link


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