2021 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Nominees POLL

xp Even if someone thinks that, wouldn’t they still enjoy / get a kick out of it? Who’s that terminally grumpy, lol

I mean rock & roll is often ridiculous, that’s what makes it fun

i refuse to listen to a foo fighters album

xp, i mean it's like getting on the cover of aarp magazine, good for them i guess?

At the very least it means a professionally produced video package on the history of your favorite band, that lots of ppl will see

Royal Trux could be inducted to the Midwest Auto Parts Hall of Fame and I’d be watching with excitement

Not sure why or how to explain it, morrisp - maybe that recognition for "critical acclaim and influence" by a hall of fame doesn't seem like much to get excited about? Maybe that it's the band that recorded "Kill Yr Idols"?

I guess I feel like you (or they) don’t have to take something seriously to enjoy your favorite band doing it. Isn’t that also part of the “punk rock” tradition? “We’re too cool for this, but we’re gonna goof on it?”

(SY also seem pretty reverent/respectful of their own idols, that song title notwithstanding!)

I mean, I'd watch if they were inducted but I'm not like writing letters or anything.

They could play “elegy for all the dead rock ★’s” [I know that’s Thurston solo]

Yeah, the song was more of a jab at Christgau than anything else. I meant more that it's a bit whatever if rock writers immortalize them, not that they have a philosophical stance against canonization.

https://www.insidehook.com/article/music/yr-kill-yr-idols-inspired-sonic-youths-iconic-song

Inneresting… I only know the “I Killed Xgau With My Big Fucking Dick” song (shows what I know!)

I just thought that was how they labelled the same song on one release - was there a different song?

Mayo Thompson recorded “Portrait of V. I. Lenin in the Style of Jackson Pollock, Part I" (several times)—and I’d shine all of Jann Wenner’s shoes if it meant I could somehow see Mayo up on that stage.

John Sykes’s, too. He could talk about his bud Mellencamp while I did the work.

At the very least it means a professionally produced video package on the history of your favorite band, that lots of ppl will see

― like a d4mn sociopath! (morrisp), Sunday, May 30, 2021 6:56 PM (fifty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i mean this with all sincerity: who cares

award ceremonies are fucking dumb

I think the only thing I really wanted from Jann Wenner was to see him eat shit and induct Rush, which he already did eight years ago.

xxp I thought all fans did! Honestly never heard of the “hate to see my favorite band on film / onstage / get recognition” kind of fan.

it's not hate it's a total lack of interest, oh boy jan werner likes royal trux yippee

we do have the rnrhof for giving us LULU though, so it's good for that

i guess i really like the speech brian may gave about def leppard last year.. or maybe it was joe elliott talking about queen... anyway it was sweet

For me I guess a big part of it is other people getting exposed to them (in these-never gonna-happen scenarios). When I love an artist, I want to share them with the world <3

(I also love a good retrospective video package, but maybe that’s just me)

the r&rhof is just industry self-congratulatory bullshit in a similar way to the grammys etc. but without even the idiosyncrasies of the grammys to keep things mildly interesting

Of 80s alternative acts, I'm a little surprised to see that Bad Brains and the Replacements have been nominated before Sonic Youth (Devo, Los Lobos and Jane's Addiction at least got played on the radio).
I think SY hung around so long that a lot of their vanguard aura dissipated (although that didn't seem to hurt R.E.M.'s induction). Also I don't think it's likely they'd play the ceremony, so no ticket sales.

well R.E.M. were a huge band (in addition to being innovative/respected, etc.); they were a shoo-in regardless.

IMO, it was their playing that hurt their induction… :(
(sorry, luv ya guys)

Bands should be retroactively uninducted for petty crimes

I actually think SY’s longevity makes the case for their consideration even stronger; they were still making good albums (almost) up until the end (I can’t rep for that final Matador one). Plus the New Yawk angle, etc.

Kim's gotten a lot of mileage saying that the Hall is more of a 'Hall of Clothes' (because of clothes>>anything else in exhibits), and that feels like something dumb enough for someone inside to get mad about.

"inside the organization"

we do have the rnrhof for giving us LULU though, so it's good for that

I thought it was Alban Berg.

I thought it was Maurice Gibb.

Inductions will be announced this week, so Vulture interviewed two anonymous voters. The points of agreement are pretty fascinating.

Team Voter Two

Team Voter Two

― jaymc, Tuesday, May 3, 2022 11:07 AM (twenty-nine seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

Me too, although Voter One was pretty otm re: Beck. And both are wrong about the MC5.

lol @ Voter One voting for MC5 and then immediately calling them a bullshit act with only one good song

Team Voter Two here too though I'm a bigger fan of the MC5 and the Dolls, and Beck is a definite a vote for me (first induction, but he's been eligible for several years now - the wait's long enough). Even though I wouldn't vote for the Eurythmics, I probably like them more. A B+ band sounds right, but I'd say the UK version of their Greatest Hits is an A-. And totally OTM re: "[A Tribe Called Quest is] part of that explosion of fascinating and innovative hip-hop acts that arrived in ’87 and ’88. Those types of acts are underinducted in the Hall of Fame." Voter One's take is moronic.

At least neither of them would ever vote for Carly Simon.

*first nomination (not induction)

voter one railing against old man rap is hilarious. the hall is dedicated to old man rock.

On that note, did Pat Benatar experience a resurgence? Those hits always felt like crap I wouldn't hear outside of classic rock radio.

Again, they need to induct more women, but jfc, Carly Simon and Pat Benatar? Really?

While I personally love three Carly Simon songs--"That's the Way I've Always Heard It Should Be," "Anticipation," and "You're So Vain"--agree she has no business in the HOF (or really even being nominated). Pat Benatar's even worse.

leading that piece with voter #1's take on pat benetar is brutal, theres no coming back from that.

Skimmed quickly--voter #2 is so much more aligned with my own thinking.

I also love "You're So Vain." Great single and the only track I own from Carly Simon.

FWIW, "Best Shot" is probably the one Benatar track that I can enjoy thanks to the riff and chorus, but it also feels like a shitty fake rock song.

Rufus with Chaka Khan have been nominated a bunch of times and they're actually good, maybe even great. If they wanted a multi-platinum selling female artist, they should've inducted them.