CAN....S and D?

Just got the email that my Live in Stuttgart shipped, stoked to get this.

I got the 7” a few days ago, sounds good

yeah mine's getting shipped rn, should arrive next week. people on the Krautrock FB group have had nothing but good things to say about it so far

What do people think of this live set? It seems I am one of the few who wasn't previously familiar with bootleg versions. I think I need to spend some more time with it. I listened to it on my walk this morning and I just kept waiting for Damo to start singing. I may also be starting to realize I have always considered Can a studio band.

This new John Dwyer project is doing it for me in terms of studio-spliced inner space CAN worship, FWIW--a really pleasant surprise which I'm more fully into than his last similar effort Bent Arcana ("Drei", the long 35-min jam, was my first-flip-through keeper off the new Stuttgart bootleg):

https://johndwyer.bandcamp.com/album/moon-drenched

yeah i've been enjoying the run of improvised albums he's been doing, heavy Can vibes.

On the new set I've only made it up through "Zwei" so far, which I dug a lot, about to go in on the rest of it today

this destroys

yeah it rules

Karoli sounds particularly good on this, tone and playing both

Jaki is super good too. though he seems to play at Russian folk song tempo a lot? like he's almost doing polka in some spots

since I never really listened much to the boots (always too low-fidelity for me) this was really revealing in how they made their material. it really is all improv until one of them (usually Schmidt) starts playing a line from one of their tunes and then the whole band follows and they just jam on that tune for a while. I don't wanna spoil which ones they are but a few of their studio tracks do show up here...sorta

that's what all their live tracks are like ime! i have never been into boot-hunting either but the Live 71-77 album is full of that sort of thing, plus the sound collage stuff on Lost Tapes, like Vitamin C showing up in Messer, Scissors, Fork & Light (which was assembled for a soundtrack iirc)

my most repeated Can opinion is that the version of Yoo Doo Right on that live album >>>>>>>> the album version, see also the elogated Spoon on Lost Tapes

I keep hoping that Live 71-77 album gets added to their new bandcamp page, I don't have that one.

Jaki is super good too.

Jaki is great in every single live gig I've heard of Can. Without exception. The one who's least consistent tends to be Karoli - but it's all relative!

I can see that, he does do that neener-neener-neener-neenerneenerneener thing a lot. if you don't like his guitar tone parts of this set may be hard to bear. I like when he gets more uh...bluesy

this stuttgart show is so fucking good

i wanna grow up to be jaki liebezeit

Jaki was a juggernaut, can you imagine playing a gig knowing Jaki is on drums?

have we ever done a S/D for his post-Can appearances? He's great on those first two Pluramon albums, for example

he's got four very distinct drum patterns and I think they all appear on here

i wanna grow up to be jaki liebezeit

― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, June 4, 2021 12:36 PM (thirty minutes ago)

this is why when all of my friends were like "yikes biological clock time 2 reproduce" i brought home my drum set!

Those 'Secret Rhythms' albums that Jaki made with Burnt Friedman from 2002 to 2013 are all great AFAIR--I also love Friedman's titling template (which he's since continued with YEK, his hand drum/FX duo) of naming tune the bpm-rhythmic cycle (127-17, etc.)

this is why when all of my friends were like "yikes biological clock time 2 reproduce" i brought home my drum set!

OTM

Finally breaking into this and it is...essential, of course. I'm sure this is upthread, and basically seen it announced as such, but liner notes confirm it's the first of a series.

this stuttgart show is so fucking good

Just listened to this - I think it's the whole set? I think it's the most I've ever enjoyed this band.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ayVlwmr0n4

Any idea when the next live release will be announced? I've hardly listened to the band in 15+ years but I seriously love the 1975 Stuttgart set as well.

What's the video? I'm seeing a "this video is unavailable." message.

it was the entire live in stuttgart album.

Stuttgart release was so maddeningly great that I fear I’m going to be shelling out money for each new one going forward.

Well, it’s on Spotty, so..

post won't age well if the series ends after two volumes because "Spotty"

Yes, but my reply was about it being removed from YouTube. Should have put xxxp but cbb.

Stuttgart release was so maddeningly great that I fear I’m going to be shelling out money for each new one going forward.

lol yeah about 5 minutes into Side A my thought was "shit, how many of these are there gonna be"

"Oh man, I hope this band doesn't keep putting out quality releases, lest I be forced to actually spend money on them and further supporting future quality releases, that would be terrible."

I've got to assume if they started the series post-Damo, there's some killer Damo stuff they're building towards. That said, this Babaluma/Landed admixture of tone and riffs has done a lot to make Landed feel like part of the classic run in my mind. The studio records capture ideas close to their point of creation, so it's wonderful to hear these musical ideas improvised upon after they've become patterns of rapport.

They were really good live ca. 1975/76.

I mean, they were always good, from what I can hear, but they were really cooking in this period.

there are two really great tracks from '75 on the Peel Sessions comp - a killer version of "Half Past One" and "Mighty Girl" which is an early (and much better) version of an Out of Reach track (maybe "November"?? I don't wanna listen to it again). I dig Landed and think it's almost classic but in retrospect probably could've been a lot better.

There never was a full live set officially released before, right? There's a momentum to this evening that I never got from the isolated live tracks I've heard.

no, that's a good point. definitely in the bootleg arena, but nothing official that was a single show

guessing this killer set might get a release https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zhdNviS0Vs

The one single show is the video pwrformance that's in the box set/dvd.
Is all of that there though?

I didn’t know that! I better track it down then.

Just running through my head that it has been said that the band lost a certain amount of spontaneity when they went multitrack in recording. They ceased to record one take simultaneously so weren't playing off each other to the same degree. Which would not be true live where they would be becoming more and more familiar with how to communicate with each other. So unless that became a safe shorthand which I have heard is a possibility in improvisation if one doesn't watch out the results could be spectacular.

Freeshow from Cologne in 1972.

'75/'76 shows I've heard have been brilliant. There's one from January 1976 (I think) recorded in Lyon which probably has the best drumming I've ever heard from Jaki - not only that but the sound quality is quite a bit better than this Stuttgart gig.

Paying proper attention I now realise that "Zwei" is a live mashup of "Dizzy Dizzy" and "Bel Air", which is nuts.

and the DRUMMING ON "DREI" OMG

Listening to side one this morning, whew! Intense.