Get Your POLL On, Baby: ILM Artist Poll #109 - The Afghan Whigs

second side of 1965 is the core, the [erogenous zone] music

Heh.

Why does Alex Chilton get a credit for this album?

there are so many different flavors of horny in there to consider

I love how no one in any greg dulli song, that I can think of, has an actual "job". like presumably theirs jobs are just to have feelings

happy 420

Stanning for this track from Black Love, maybe it's already been mentioned. Seems to have been release as a single ahead of the album.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMN7qrwLr7E

Heh.

Why does Alex Chilton get a credit for this album?

― Blue Yoda No. 9 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, May 24, 2021 1:21 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Alex Chilton is on this record.

I became friends with Alex during my time in New Orleans. It was the third time I met him and I said, "Hey, do you remember pissing on our tires?" He had no idea what I was talking about, which was good because then I knew it was nothing personal. I was ecstatic that I got to record a song with Alex Chilton.

not that this answers your question, the credits for 1965 are maddeningly opaque

The footage of him as a backing singer on the 1965 tour suggests that he sang backing vocals on the record

thank u sic

sick sic fact check!

Has this live thing around the time of In Spades been posted? If so, sorry for reposting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKvOZY-nuak

For a second I thought Brad was saying that he, Brad, was friends with Alex Chilton, and also confused Alex Chilton with Ray Davies, and was going to ask him if he was there for the mugging and shooting.

I only saw them once. In 1996, I think. Still one of the best shows I've ever seen. Christ knows how Dulli lived (lives?) at that pitch. He waded into the crowd after someone at one point (real or imagined I'm not sure), swinging his mic stand, shouting 'fucking come on!'. Magnificent.

I only saw them once as well, London in 1991. Think it was the New Cross Venue? Can't really remember much about it I'm afraid, other than it was good

The only time I ever saw them I was underwhelmed. But I still bought their records and wish I had gone to see them again.

This would have been 1992/3, in Texas.

alex chilton's contribution to 1965 was singing backing vocals on "crazy"

https://www.westword.com/music/afghan-whigs-greg-dulli-on-being-chased-by-meat-loaf-for-helping-himself-to-meats-leftovers-5684888

the liner notes for retrospective (the 2006 best-of compilation) also provide a bit more insight into who-played-what on a few 1965 tracks

re Twilight Singers, I feel I’ve posted this before but forever in awe of the structure of Bonnie Brae, that one would make my ballot no question

rt

the liner notes for retrospective (the 2006 best-of compilation) also provide a bit more insight into who-played-what on a few 1965 tracks

― ufo, Monday, May 24, 2021 2:17 PM (sixteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

aw fuck yeah steve ferrone on drums

this is too hard

saw them twice in the late nineties -- once with horns and backup singers, once without. (and therefore one 'my curse' sung by dulli and one not.)

i'd felt like i was pretty immune to all the stagecraft stuff -- i like shoegaze, after all -- and for a few seconds dulli's whole crowd-pumping act felt pretty cringeworthy. but then somehow i absolutely bought into it and it was just ~amazing~

a cliche but the only other entertainer i've seen to pull all that shit off was, of course, prince. take me away

have unfortunately never seen him live but dulli comes across as a tremendously gifted performer even on record. like he's not an amazing lyricist or anything but he can really really sell whatever he's singing

some ilxor posted that dulli's music has duende, and yes, absolutely, such a great word.

i saw the afghan whigs once only - it was in Sydney during the early-ish part of their reunion and rick mccollum was still part of the band, which i'm glad about

I was theeeeeere (also the Twilight Singers @ Metro and Gutter Twins @ Seymour in earlier years). Have seen them thrice in Seattle since (once with Sir Mix-A-Lot opening), and they're always great, but never that amazing.

made me think that more reformed bands should drop their OG drummer for a younger energetic monster like whoever was on the kit that night.

really love the drummer they had for the 2012 shows

tbf they had turned over multiple drummers before they split! the 2012 drummer, Cully Symington, had been playing on/off with Dulli for years at that point (as the reunion was basically just adding McCollum to the current Twilight Singers and playing more Whigs songs). Bloke from the Saboteurs replaced him before the last album.

as an odd tonal break from the onslaught, they got Steve Kilbey from the Church up to sing One Day from Seance ...apparently it was a song they covered in their early days as the Afghan Whigs or something?

They'd played it the night before in Melbum without Kilbey and announced it as such, yeah. Dunno if they'd already planned for him to guest, or someone sent Kilby the youtube during the day!

what are everyone's favorite twilight singers jams.

Love -> Annie-Mae 4 eva

you mean the raconteurs

(another great drummer)

kilbey showing up was planned, apparently they're huge mutual fans and had really hit it off after meeting at a show a few years prior

http://thetimebeing.com/whiggy-as-all-fork/

here's kilbey's blog post about them hanging out the day of the sydney show

(saboteurs is the raconteurs' name in australia due to a dispute with an existing band here)

i think most of my twilight singers favourites are on blackberry belle, the blown out shoegaze-soul sound of that album is incredible

awww at that kilbeyblog

its so fucking loud

I’ve heard quieter jumbos taking off

this is figuratively true but the room they played is literally a converted factory directly underneath the flightpath, 4 miles from the airport so Steve may also have been jazzily confused

(saboteurs is the raconteurs' name in australia due to a dispute with an existing band here)

lol this is an incredible fact. that’ll teach me to out-sic sic

it's a hilariously ineffective & petty way of thumbing their nose at the existing band

(who were complete nobodies who had no idea why someone was offering to buy their name, so counter-offered out of curiosity, and apparently enraged White by their impertinence)

i have almost never listened to dynamite steps, forgot how much i liked low-key gutter twins track "be invited"

dynamite steps has a few awesome songs, the mix is a bit crowded though iirc

i have to revisit saturnalia and then my tracks ballot will be done... i'm already furious about most of the cuts i've had to make

"on the corner" still really hits

"gunshots" also amazing... too many good songs.....

the atmosphere of saturnalia is so goddamn thick

fuck, i’m gonna have to vote for “circle the fringes”

Been listening back thru everything for this poll and I’m feeling like blackberry belle might be my number one album vote when I thought gentlemen was a forgone conclusion.

Really enjoyed this acoustic Dulli/Lanegan set from Brussels ca. Saturnalia. Gutter Twins-heavy, but some solo-Lanegan/TS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlclKDn0z_E

good morning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvvOEQqvxKU

i was super hyped for the gutter twins album in college, probably because they had been recording it for so long, and "idle hands" was like a rock song from hell. i think saturnalia has the best production of nearly any of dulli's records, and i think this is funny because it's surrounded by two twilight singers records where i'm not entirely down with the production choices. imo the first half is still a terrifying sink into black murk; for some reason the spell breaks for me after "circle the fringes"... which is fine given how good "circle the fringes" is. (until i revisited the record last night (my first time in at least ten years) i had completely forgotten that song existed, so it sort of feels like i've been reunited with an old friend lol)

if i had enough room on my ballot i would also vote for "all misery/flowers"

wow i had no idea they turned "candy cane crawl" into such a live epic, wish they'd done that on record

is "faded" the greatest power ballad ever or what

yes

btw 'faded' > 'purple rain'

― mookieproof, Wednesday, January 31, 2018 8:12 PM (three years ago) bookmarkflaglink

going through it all now....

Up In It is great, standout cuts are definitely Hey Cuz & I Know Your Little Secret.

omg rhythm section on I'm Her Slave and Turn On The Water so amazing. John Curley probably the best rock bassist of the 90s?

fuck and Conjure Me. oh god it's one of those polls where I listen through and just make a note of every single song on some albums and just cry at having to get the poll down to a reasonable length.

John Curley probably the best rock bassist of the 90s?

thats a bold claim but i was listening to Gentlemen a couple of days back, and was definitely struck by just how tight and punchy the bass tones are on that