real giggers put everything on a wagon afaict
― Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Monday, 24 May 2021 16:47 (two years ago) link
Canoo's first model—a minivan now dubbed the "Lifestyle Vehicle"
this is deviant shit i can tell
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 May 2021 21:24 (two years ago) link
they all look so much like "The Howard"
― bogo jumbo junbi boba (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 25 May 2021 21:50 (two years ago) link
one of the appealing things about the F-150 (which I will not be getting, but i hope this shows up on other vehicles) is AC outlets. if every other car can charge a phone (or a fridge or an oxygen concentrator) then that's a big deal in a natural disaster.
Already was a big deal in Texas back in February:https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/18/some-texans-use-2021-ford-f-150-hybrids-to-power-homes-amid-winter-storm.html
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 26 May 2021 01:46 (two years ago) link
Electro Voice a proud Minnesota company
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 26 May 2021 01:55 (two years ago) link
xp oh nice. the new hyundai has ac outlets too https://arstechnica.com/cars/2021/05/hyundai-reveals-us-specs-for-ioniq-5-electric-crossover/
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 26 May 2021 02:33 (two years ago) link
xp i still have some old EV sentry monitors in storage. pretty good and cheap first set.
― bogo jumbo junbi boba (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 26 May 2021 02:48 (two years ago) link
https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/Screen-Shot-2021-06-08-at-8.14.59-AM-1440x710.png
not an ev and not for me, but 40mpg and under $20k is a big deal
https://arstechnica.com/cars/2021/06/fords-new-maverick-is-a-cheap-and-cheerful-hybrid-pickup-truck/
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 17:08 (two years ago) link
https://www.vice.com/en/article/k78zjz/is-it-good-for-the-environment-to-replace-my-used-car-with-an-electric-vehicle
By now, it is common knowledge electric vehicles (EVs) are better for the environment than gas cars, because they are more efficient and don't directly emit harmful gases that warm the planet. However, I am occasionally asked a slightly different question which is harder to answer. Say you have a perfectly good gas-powered car that may last several more years. Is it still environmentally friendly to replace it with an EV?
tldr yes
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 20:26 (two years ago) link
i would drive the electric f150.
i won't be able to afford to, but i would
― 《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 21:54 (two years ago) link
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, June 8, 2021 1:08 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
that is ridiculously cheap
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 16 June 2021 14:48 (two years ago) link
We came really close to pulling the trigger on a Chevy Bolt, which is a great car, except for the fact that it's a slow charger, even at its fastest. So basically any longer trip we might take that took advantage of the good range for a cheaper EV (260+) would need an added couple of hours on each end to charge, which kind of sucks. Normal charge is like 4 miles an hour, level 2 more like 20. That was still too slow for us.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 June 2021 15:17 (two years ago) link
What makes a truck "cheerful," I wonder.
― Champagne Heathernova (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 16 June 2021 15:51 (two years ago) link
"cheap and cheerful" is a british phrase that i used for years before realizing everyone here thought i was talking about things being cheerful.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 16 June 2021 17:26 (two years ago) link
just happy to see pickup that's a reasonable size
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 16 June 2021 17:30 (two years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/OZR9fSv.jpg
Replace that video screen on the inside with this and I'll think about it.
― pplains, Wednesday, 16 June 2021 17:52 (two years ago) link
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, June 16, 2021 10:26 AM (five hours ago)
well what does it mean?
― Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Wednesday, 16 June 2021 23:21 (two years ago) link
cheap but ok
― 《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 16 June 2021 23:31 (two years ago) link
rather than cheap and bad or cheap and of a very high quality
― 《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 16 June 2021 23:32 (two years ago) link
its similar to jacked and jaunty
― lag∞n, Thursday, 17 June 2021 00:00 (two years ago) link
basically "cheap and shitty" but, crucially, not so shitty that it doesn't work, so let's move on and never consider it again until it breaks, at which point we will gaffa tape it up and resume not thinking about it
if you only need to use it for a shorter period of time than "until it breaks," bonus
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Thursday, 17 June 2021 00:16 (two years ago) link
lol https://arstechnica.com/cars/2021/08/gm-recalls-every-chevy-bolt-ever-made-blames-lg-for-faulty-batteries/
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 24 August 2021 19:32 (two years ago) link
gonna need some major government intervention to get people to buy all these electric cars
The scale of battery production coming online in the next decade from auto firms is mind boggling pic.twitter.com/ZMTiiqyrCa— hk (@hassankhan) September 8, 2021
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 16:03 (two years ago) link
do any of them have stick shifts and a cassette deck?
― sarahell, Saturday, 2 October 2021 03:40 (two years ago) link
as someone who spent the last 19 years driving stick before getting a PHEV, i dont miss it. i thought i would but...nothing.
p sure the tape deck could be arranged.
― class project pat (m bison), Saturday, 2 October 2021 03:55 (two years ago) link
the braking + downshifting ability is kinda key for me -- it's less an EV issue and more an automatic transmission issue
― sarahell, Saturday, 2 October 2021 03:57 (two years ago) link
I didn't realize until recently that you can't coast in some of them.... taking your foot off the gas accelerator puts the brakes in motion.
― pplains, Saturday, 2 October 2021 04:27 (two years ago) link
taking your foot off the gas accelerator puts the brakes in motion.
wait what??? ... no, I mean, just no.
― sarahell, Saturday, 2 October 2021 19:10 (two years ago) link
yeah thats the regenerative braking it converts forward momentum into power for the car, people like it because most of the time you can drive just using the "gas" pedal, you can turn it off in some cars that have it if you dont tho
― lag∞n, Saturday, 2 October 2021 19:16 (two years ago) link
almost no manuals left on the market ev or otherwise tho, rip
― lag∞n, Saturday, 2 October 2021 19:18 (two years ago) link
there are a lot of cars with a "manual mode" where you can control the shifting of the transmission without having a clutch pedal tho
― lag∞n, Saturday, 2 October 2021 19:22 (two years ago) link
I'll eventually get one and get used to it.
― sarahell, Saturday, 2 October 2021 19:39 (two years ago) link
yeah thats the regenerative braking it converts forward momentum into power for the car...
― lag∞n, Saturday, October 2, 2021 2:16 PM (fifty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
this is one of my favorite things about EVs, its fun to steal energy back
― class project pat (m bison), Saturday, 2 October 2021 20:10 (two years ago) link
do any of them have stick shifts
Most EVs don't even have transmissions, thanks to their high torque and full torque being available at 0 RPM instead of having to rev up the engine. The Porsche Taycan and iirc the Audi that's similar have a 2 speed automatic transmission.
That's true in the US, somewhat less so in UK/Europe and elsewhere. Even Canada has a few stick-shift cars sold only with automatics in the States.
― Lee626, Saturday, 2 October 2021 21:04 (two years ago) link
in the UK it's about 50/50 manual and automatic
but yes as Lee says, EVs don't have gears at all (apart from very specialized models) so a shifter wouldn't be very useful! i know how pleasurable it is to downshift etc but trust me, a nice EV feels even more responsive. you can just put the car wherever you want it. the auto braking thing can be turned off for the most part and doesn't kick in above 30 mph usually i think anyway but it's true that 'coasting' doesn't really happen. you don't have a whole transmission tumbling away that can just carry the momentum of the car. you have to keep your right foot at the right place to keep the car moving at the right speed. EVs actually get WORSE efficiency on the highway than they do in start stop traffic because every time you brake you put energy back into the battery.
― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 2 October 2021 22:06 (two years ago) link
i dont really understand the continued popularity of manuals in europe their fuel economy isnt even better anymore, they tend to be slightly cheaper i guess
― lag∞n, Saturday, 2 October 2021 22:17 (two years ago) link
I feel the same way about tipping in the US
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 2 October 2021 22:18 (two years ago) link
have you tried pretending youre a mafia boss every time you leave a tip
― lag∞n, Saturday, 2 October 2021 22:20 (two years ago) link
"i'll make an offer ya cant refuse" *adds 20% to the bill so you can still have a place to live*
― class project pat (m bison), Saturday, 2 October 2021 22:25 (two years ago) link
“you’re uh right, i can’t refuse that”
― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 2 October 2021 22:30 (two years ago) link
I think Americans drive automatics because because all the coins they have to keep in the center console of their cars make driving a stick “too jangly”.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 3 October 2021 00:46 (two years ago) link
one underrated advantage of driving stick is that you never have to worry about anyone borrowing your car
― gbx, Sunday, 3 October 2021 01:34 (two years ago) link
Every year or two I read about how some carjacking attempt was foiled when the would-be thief is foiled by an unexpected manual transmission he doesn't know how to drive.
In the U.S., manual transmissions are in just over 2% of new cars. The disparity with the rest of the world is in part because of how cars are sold here. Decades ago, American cars were sold with a la carte extra-cost options. You could order one to your liking with your choice of engine, transmission, body style, inside and outside colors, several upholstery choices, different audio systems, and different features of all sorts. 50+ option choices were commonplace. Nowadays, the manufacturers no longer allow more than a few packaged variations of a given car so there's not much point in ordering one. Instead the dealerships stock massive numbers of cars and you by one they have in stock off the lot. This means dealers don't want to stock anything they can't sell easily, and that means automatic transmissions for everybody. It's also the reason 76% of the cars sold last year were some shade of greyscale (white, grey, silver, charcoal, black) - these are least likely to offend anyone. My local BMW dealer doesn't stock *any* other colors on their mainstream cars.
Another reason for the downfall of stick shifts is the highly regulated certification process (for fuel economy and pollution) in the US where each drivetrain much be certified separately, which makes it expensive to offer more than one or two drivetrains on a given car. In the UK a mainstream car may be sold with four different engine sizes in gas/petrol and a few more in diesel, each with either manual or auto transmission. In the U.S. the same car would be sold with one engine (usually a big one) and an automatic.
― Lee626, Sunday, 3 October 2021 03:05 (two years ago) link
Anyway, yeah, a shifter isn't missed in an EV. There's always loads of immediately-available torque, so if you want more power you just step on it and you'll get a satisfying shove in the back. No need to downshift first.
― Lee626, Sunday, 3 October 2021 03:09 (two years ago) link
also people in america just like automatics better, like not that long ago there were more manuals available and they still werent selling, which makes sense to me automatics are just easier, europe is also trending towards automatics too just way later, maybe it just took automatics getting good on fuel efficiency to tip the scales there since gas is so much more expensive and a lot of cars sold there are the tiny ones thatre specifically all about being cheap to operate
i would like to say for the record manuals are cool and fun, under the right conditions, i still wouldnt buy one tho crawling through traffic shifting all around and what not, plus with a lot of the very helpful new tech adaptive cruise control and so forth is a non starter
― lag∞n, Sunday, 3 October 2021 13:37 (two years ago) link
my first car was a lil manual corolla, salute, that thing was even fun to shift around in on the right roads, try to keep the momentum rolling
― lag∞n, Sunday, 3 October 2021 13:38 (two years ago) link
i might buy a manual if it was a very sick car, but whatre the chances of that, pretty low, and tbh if i were buying a very sick car id prob go for a new one with all the tech
― lag∞n, Sunday, 3 October 2021 13:52 (two years ago) link
It should be noted that many recent cars with automatic transmissions can't really be downshifted either, as they too don't have any gears. Instead they use a continuously variable transmission (CVT), which can adjust anywhere from low to high rather than having six or so discreet gears to choose from. This allows them to be more fuel-efficient because the exact optimum engine speed can always be chosen. However cars with CVTs often feel weird to drive, answering with a drone when you need more power. For that reason, some are programmed to have fake "gears" so you can "downshift" and "upshift" when you want.
― Lee626, Sunday, 3 October 2021 13:52 (two years ago) link
yeah my outback has a cvt... and paddle shifters lmao
― lag∞n, Sunday, 3 October 2021 13:55 (two years ago) link
dual clutch is the best very nice transmission
― lag∞n, Sunday, 3 October 2021 13:56 (two years ago) link