Eurovision 2020 (now featuring Eurovision 2021)

LOL crying Italian goths.

This was top 5

Also:

when a european couple on vacation ask if you want to swing and you’re like, shit maybe https://t.co/TYVKAt12Ki

— international gender champion (@AliceAvizandum) May 22, 2021

They love their slightly heavy rock in Eastern Europe so maybe the UK can look into going down that path in next year's contest.

Ukraine did better than I was expecting them to, so that makes me happy. But the Italian song is not really much of anything, not sure why they were so incredibly popular?

Ah that was great. Zero problems with the Italians, from when I saw their original video for it I was all "I like these trash rockers, bring it." And totally happy with Iceland and Ukraine top five.

My 86 yo mum shouted "SHITE!" when one of the juries gave Malta douze points lol.

She'd had two vodkas.

Malta got rooked in the popular vote I thought -- a winner no, but that final total should have been higher.

They love their slightly heavy rock in Eastern Europe so maybe the UK can look into going down that path in next year's contest.

― Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Saturday, May 22, 2021 10:56 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

UK will continue to send nice acts doing serviceable songs in a competent way, as they represent 'Britain' in the way that any decent British music does not feel the need to.

And will still lose embarrassingly and people will moan about politics, as if its the same countries that win it every year.

Think of every winner over the past ten years, and consider which alternate universe contains a reality where any of those songs could conceivably have been the UK entry.

brexit may be a factor in the UK's popularity ?

more precisely the UK's inept uselessness at EV lo these 40* years is a cause of brexit

*im a katrina and the waves truther, this was a bad boring song and shd not have won, 1981 and buck's fizz was our last solid victory

on twitter max tundra is angling to write next year's song but i think we shd adopt the ukrainian model and deliver some sinister microtonal neo-folk, david tibet can't be that busy

I hated the song that won. My least favorite this year (perhaps tied with the German entry).

Combine it with the proven Lordi template and mask it a costumed folk-horror band. Sinister mummers and Morris dancers, the whole thing. Song by Julian Cope and Stock-Aitken-Waterman.

Liking these ideas. Rather have Rose McDowall than David Tibet though.

Bill Bailey offers to represent UK at Eurovision 2022 https://t.co/xwJif7KwQY

— The Independent (@Independent) May 23, 2021

lordi wouldn't cut it any more as proven template, it was a weak poprock song played loud and gruntily w/grebt costumes which cut thru via novelty and gumption

the italian song had strong guitar parts, an actively unusual feature in an EV song*: johnny thunders and sylvian sylvain can't be that busy

*also it reminded me of the (very good) themetune for SUBURRA: BLOOD OF ROME aka sex, drugs, violence and ZONING (and the wickedest of these is zoning, my son)

bill bailey barred for using the detestable phrase "throw my hat in the ring"

Yes, even the 'rock' songs on EV, like the Finnish song, don't usually have much in the way of rock guitar.

the portuguese song had more of a guitar solo (= unusually much of a guitar solo in this context) (but not in a horrible "the darkness" way) (i did not take the portuguese song to be camp and retro-winky btw)

there's no good reason to like graham continuity-wogan in this role obv but his irritating repeat joke abt metal as "angry music" was especially smug and dullardish (i enjoyed how crestfallen and disgusted he was at the outcome for the UK, it quite took the joy out of his perky-cheeky shtick lol) (good)

Norton sounding crushed was almost as fun as the Swiss lad looking crushed

swiss lad had a genuinely gorgeous impressive voice spoiled by an over-fey (tho probably sincere) performance and a not-great song gussied by by production melodramatics

probably unrepeatable but the points reversals as the popular vote came in were genuinely amazing theatre (as well as a sustained passage of rubbing salt into the uk wound lol lol lol)

i'd like to think if you could vote for your own nation the UK would still have finished nul point

there are 39 juries and 39 countries of popular vote. That means that in 78 different races, the UK didn't manage to score 10th place or better in any of those. That's actually quite an achievement.

xpost Waiting for the first negative points entry from them.

the uk entry had colossal entireled and yet half-assed will-this-do energy

this is why it was so much worse than the german entry, which was skilled and laser-focused trolling (and knowingly achieved its intention)

that's right

yes, but I would prefer to watch something half-arsed, bland and crap than be trolled with some of the most deliberately awful music / visuals I've ever encountered.

https://i2-prod.walesonline.co.uk/incoming/article20658489.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/0_2.jpg

this is my favourite post-mortem take, if we really want to display our contempt to Europe let's have JHB take over next year.

https://i.imgur.com/7ztJK9e.png

hangover or still pissed? you decide

germany got its points from juries [2 from austria, 1 from romania] which is to say from professional game-recognise-game acknowledgment of the deliberate deliver of the intended effect

televoters agreed across the board with camaraderie ("it may be a skill but fvck it it offends me")

I suspect the Austrian / Romanian judges may have thought "hey this isn't for me but it's the kind of shit the idiotic public seem to like" -whereas

yes, but I would prefer to watch something half-arsed, bland and crap than be trolled with some of the most deliberately awful music / visuals I've ever encountered.

― A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length)

Nah. I hated Germany with a passion but not as much as I hated Portugal.

UK needs to go drill or go home, imo.

Closest UK came to a point was Polish jury (11th). Managed to clock up twenty-one 25th+26th finishes across the 78 polls. EVERY juror on the Israel panel placed UK last, as did the Israel public vote.

Two points from Austrian jury for Germany mostly because of "Juror A" (is that you, Arnie?) and their lunatic 5th-place vote.

We need a deep dive on how the various juries are made up -- i'm guessing it's approached differently by different countries -- but if they do vote so as to prdict and accord with the popular voter then they are not doing their jobs IMO. The divergence is a strength: it amplifies and dramatises the gulf between how those within the craft (music-biz ppl including musicians) assess music and how the general public asssesses it.

also divergence makes the reversals of the final stretch super-exciting

UK panel on Lithuania: 22nd, 13th, 21st, 20th, 25th. UK televote: 1st.

👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽

lithuania was one of my faves.
i always enjoy the switcheroo with the public votes, it looked worryingly like that wasn't going to happen last night at the start

Lithuania was the best but I'm not shocked Gary Barlow didn't get it

Lithuania overdid the quirky but the song was good.

Don't have strong feelings about Italy either way, but if feels like one of the least catchy winners in recent memory? I can hum a line or two of pretty much every song that won in the past 15 years (ok maybe not Jamala) but yeah I have nothing for "Zitti e Buoni".

“1944” has a strong hook tho:

Yaşlığıma toyalmadım
Men bu yerde yaşalmadım

(this is not snark btw)

'1944' is an awesome song, didn't remember it being unpopular on here?

yes, it is awesome

it is awesome! I just couldn't remember how it goes