pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

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has albini talked about that any time recently? i vaguely remember it in Our Band Could Be Your Life, but it seemed to be not much more than wanting to shock people

Karl Malone, Friday, 21 May 2021 17:23 (two years ago) link

within circles that care about albini that exact sentiment is still v much a thing xps

Left, Friday, 21 May 2021 17:29 (two years ago) link

that sucks.

Karl Malone, Friday, 21 May 2021 17:33 (two years ago) link

the azerrad book was so uncritical (not just in his case) it pissed me off

his edgelord thing had a clear ideological edge to it which I'm sure he's keen to disavow now- but it's hard to miss unless you're really trying

Left, Friday, 21 May 2021 17:35 (two years ago) link

this is the most substantial conversation I've seen w Albini wrt these issues

https://www.listenlistenlisten.org/stevealbini/

in general having talked to a lot of people who have worked with him, is he's sort of the inverse of a lot of "sensitive guy" indie creeps in that his public persona is problematic but people who know him seem to say great things about him personally (latter day Shellac/producer era Albini)

that's a very good interview, thanks!

Karl Malone, Friday, 21 May 2021 18:11 (two years ago) link

albini is legitimately confounding to me wrt this stuff. i think i posted elsewhere about seeing him go on a weird tirade of sexual insults at a female fan for talking at a shellac show a few years ago, and he definitely has been known to still throw around an n-bomb from time to time, in the context of "can you believe ignorant rappers say this?" but then other times like in that interview he can be super intelligent & insightful about allyship, he clearly thinks deeply about that stuff and cares a lot, but just seems to be saddled with some kind of weird compulsion leftover from the 80s re:"taboo language" where he just cant resist putting his hand on the hot stove from time to time. its so weird.

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Friday, 21 May 2021 18:31 (two years ago) link

In an April 2020 interview on the Conan Neutron's Protonic Reversal podcast, Albini expressed regret for the name of the band, saying that he didn't feel he had been "held to account for being in a band called Rapeman". He added that "it was a flippant choice", calling it unconscionable and indefensible. He later likened it to getting a bad tattoo.[5]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapeman

80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Friday, 21 May 2021 18:32 (two years ago) link

The highest-profile promotion I've ever seen the Reigning Sound and Greg Cartwright receive is from Beto O'Rourke and Tom Scharpling, not the music press, so I'm not sure how much impact the Pitchfork review will have on their fortunes.

Chris L, Friday, 21 May 2021 18:55 (two years ago) link

Feel Like I Have To Defend Myself. 1 Idk Who The Fuck Steve Albino Is 2. I Dont 'Nigger Everything Insight' 3. I Never Say Fuck U To Drivers

— Tyler, The Creator (@tylerthecreator) August 10, 2011

bruce spr!ngisH3r3 (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 21 May 2021 18:55 (two years ago) link

"Steve Albino" is still the funniest thing Tyler ever said

80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Friday, 21 May 2021 20:11 (two years ago) link

The History of Pitchfork's Reviews Section in 38 Reviews

They include the monkey pissing in its own mouth but somehow don't illustrate the piece with a picture of a dog licking its own balls. Oh well, at least there's this, from the intro:

For a large swath of time, the site was run mostly by middle-class white guys in their 20s and 30s, and a decent chunk of the taste and writing reflected that limited perspective.

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 25 May 2021 16:04 (two years ago) link

And there is an ILX mention! (Check the Lizzo entry towards the end of the list.)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 25 May 2021 16:30 (two years ago) link

Caption to the article about how Eddie Van Halen influenced the new Mdou Moctar album:

Eddie Halen photo by Richard E. Aaron/Redferns. Graphic by Drew Litowitz.

Deicide at Chuck E. Cheese (PBKR), Tuesday, 25 May 2021 16:39 (two years ago) link

the review explorer thing that they created is incredibly dumb

excited to read the article tho

the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 25 May 2021 16:40 (two years ago) link

yeah, the data and the visualization did not see eye to eye on that one

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 25 May 2021 16:45 (two years ago) link

The reason this very thread started!

Did you know our review of Kylie Minogue's Fever started out as an April Fool's joke? The joke didn't come close to landing, but it did mark a turning point for Pitchfork

Read how, along with other fun facts from our reviews section: https://t.co/R0DKPtbz1y pic.twitter.com/UOpdUeN9hQ

— Pitchfork (@pitchfork) May 25, 2021

bruce spr!ngisH3r3 (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 25 May 2021 19:16 (two years ago) link

cowards left out the coltrane review

attempting to rebrand (Left), Tuesday, 25 May 2021 19:37 (two years ago) link

Pitchfork Reviews Reviews is back!

The list is 38 and my joke was that it was originally 40 but they had to cut Coltrane at the Vanguard and an Eve B**low review

bruce spr!ngisH3r3 (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 25 May 2021 21:07 (two years ago) link

brings me so much joy. every so often i'll be listening to a jazz record and hear a voice in my head say "It’s only when you listen to a perfect old jazz tune like this that you realize how much drum-n-bass is derived from this music."

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 26 May 2021 02:47 (two years ago) link

Oops, they did it again:

Power Trip’s Riley Gale Cause of Death Revealed

like a d4mn sociopath! (morrisp), Wednesday, 26 May 2021 03:41 (two years ago) link

ugh why is it numbered

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 27 May 2021 19:49 (two years ago) link

Yes, that is a bad call

Draymond is "Mr Dumpy" (forksclovetofu), Friday, 28 May 2021 00:51 (two years ago) link

my standards are probably too high for a regularly published music writing newsletter. i like larry

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 28 May 2021 00:59 (two years ago) link

why does it matter if it's numbered? i don't understand *why* it is but it doesn't bother me ... but wonder if i'm missing something.

alpine static, Friday, 28 May 2021 03:59 (two years ago) link

It lends it the tone of a philosophical treatise.

enochroot, Friday, 28 May 2021 12:36 (two years ago) link

just a pet peeve really, if you're using numbers to break up a piece but the numbers don't even signify discrete ideas and in fact it could all just be part of one paragraph, it's very distracting

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 28 May 2021 13:01 (two years ago) link

i have also totally done this myself which is the origin story of every pet peeve i have about writing

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 28 May 2021 13:02 (two years ago) link

I think if you're gonna number your paragraphs you are obligated to include the total number in the headline.

35 Thoughts About Some Dumb Fuckin' Thing

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 28 May 2021 13:03 (two years ago) link

(#27 will blow your mind)

Left, Friday, 28 May 2021 13:06 (two years ago) link

5 Dumb Thoughts About Things Out This Week You Should Listen to Now

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 28 May 2021 15:53 (two years ago) link

Catching up on that retrospective of reviews and I did a doubletake at this quote about Broken Social Scene:

Released in Canada in October 2002, the album had yet to arrive Stateside when Pitchfork’s Best New Music review ran the following February.

When people talk about something happening "Stateside" don't they mean "this side of the ocean"? Like, the same side that Canada is on? I would only ever use that expression in contrast with UK/Europe. Or have I always misunderstood, and I was shockingly old when I learned something today?

(I know there is probably a better thread for this but I can't think of what it is)

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 28 May 2021 17:35 (two years ago) link

As a Canadian, I've always taken it to mean "on the US side of the border" (land or sea).

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 28 May 2021 17:37 (two years ago) link

huh!

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 28 May 2021 17:46 (two years ago) link

As a US citizen, I have always parsed "Stateside" as "within the borders of the United States"

80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Friday, 28 May 2021 18:53 (two years ago) link

The number thing just seemed like they were going to write something but then stopped at the brainstorming process... but wdik

brimstead, Friday, 28 May 2021 19:08 (two years ago) link

I never understood "Stateside" to include Canada, Mexico, Cuba, Paraguay, etc.

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Friday, 28 May 2021 19:08 (two years ago) link

Stateside = in the United States. Not an expression Americans use very often ime.

pomenitul, Friday, 28 May 2021 19:13 (two years ago) link

The number thing just seemed like they were going to write something but then stopped at the brainstorming process... but wdik

― brimstead, Friday, May 28, 2021 3:08 PM (fifty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

its a newsletter wgas

bruce spr!ngisH3r3 (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 28 May 2021 19:59 (two years ago) link

the correct take

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 28 May 2021 20:12 (two years ago) link

It is very odd to be confronted with a video for a terrible song (per Alfred's post a few posts up) where you were in the invite-only audience.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 28 May 2021 20:28 (two years ago) link

Reviews Explorer:

We've reviewed 43 albums from my bloody valentine and 13 similar artists.

Was this thing even tested at all? Kevin Shields will have a heart attack if he sees those numbers.

Position Position, Friday, 28 May 2021 21:20 (two years ago) link

I assume that 43 includes albums by the similar artists.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 28 May 2021 21:24 (two years ago) link

damn Ned that's OG Tin Machine cred, salute

xpost, yep

i was loling at that the morning it came out:

We've reviewed 43 albums from my bloody valentine and 13 similar artists.

the most misleading sentence ever written. what they mean is that spotify identified 13 similar artists, and combined with the reviewed albums by MBV (which we will not tell you here), those 14 artists have been reviewed 43 times, in total. looooooool k

Karl Malone, Friday, 28 May 2021 22:40 (two years ago) link


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