Chapo Trap House and the rise of the dirtbag left

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unperson you are very stupid

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 15:20 (two years ago) link

I really admire how you have no curiosity about the ways people have, historically, tried to understand who they are and their role in the cosmos. And how you have the strength to belittle people who still wonder about these things. What strength! What power!

treeship., Wednesday, 19 May 2021 15:21 (two years ago) link

I really admire how you have no curiosity about the ways people have, historically, tried to understand who they are and their role in the cosmos.

"Historically" is the key word here. It's not very interesting that people believe crazy shit. It's even less interesting why people believe crazy shit. The impact of people's belief in crazy shit on their material existence is fascinating.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 15:29 (two years ago) link

I don’t think you know what “religion” is

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 15:39 (two years ago) link

Probably too late to go back to this question in a generous & thoughtful way, but I am genuinely curious why contemporary leftists or people otherwise fighting for social justice would choose to belong to the Catholic Church.

rob, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 15:40 (two years ago) link

we all have coping mechanisms re: the terror of the void, just bc religion isn't yours doesn't mean yours is superior to religion, or that religion is an "insane" belief, which, fuck you

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 15:44 (two years ago) link

sorry that post was for unperson

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 15:45 (two years ago) link

lol I figured

rob, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 15:45 (two years ago) link

how dare anyone impose narrative on non-narrative things, one of the main things the human brain does

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 15:50 (two years ago) link

Probably too late to go back to this question in a generous & thoughtful way, but I am genuinely curious why contemporary leftists or people otherwise fighting for social justice would choose to belong to the Catholic Church.

Bruenig explains that here, convincingly or otherwise: https://www.americamagazine.org/faith/2017/07/25/how-augustines-confessions-and-left-politics-inspired-my-conversion-catholicism

I'd guess you'd have a lot of people inspired by liberation theology in Latin America. It's probably also worth making a distinction between 'the Catholic Church', as an institution, which Bruenig, particularly over the last few years, has criticised, and Catholic theology in a more abstract sense.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 15:56 (two years ago) link

I'll read that, thanks, though I don't really want to make this about EB--I've wondered this long before I knew who she was. And TBC: it's precisely the institution & its history that I'm wondering about

rob, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 16:02 (two years ago) link

Unfortunately, I didn't find that elucidating. It's an interesting piece for sure, but since it's basically TS: Protestantism or Catholicism, it's already too zoomed in for me. I did think it notable that she brought up Quakerism, but her reasons for rejecting it were unclear to me--to be fair, having never been religious there's a likely inevitable sympathy gap on my part.

All that talk about the Church's pre-modern attitude to property but no mention of the Vatican's property holdings. All that talk of coreligionists adding to the tradition without acknowledging that other-people's-traditions-destroyers like Diego de Landa are among them, and so on. I guess it boils down to "I take the good and reject the bad," and tbf I doubt I'll ever find that particularly convincing as an outsider, so perhaps I'm fatally prejudiced here.

rob, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 17:10 (two years ago) link

I hope you all are enjoying my posts to the Chapo Trap House thread

rob, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 17:10 (two years ago) link

I guess it boils down to "I take the good and reject the bad," and tbf I doubt I'll ever find that particularly convincing as an outsider, so perhaps I'm fatally prejudiced here.

This is pretty much my mom's position. (My mom who is not only a practicing Catholic but also a graduate of Penn State University...)

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 17:12 (two years ago) link

this has mainly just been the inter-left squabbles thread for a long time xp

intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 17:12 (two years ago) link

Oh this is about your mom I guess that explains your shitty personality xp

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 17:13 (two years ago) link

What does Penn State have to do with anything?

treeship., Wednesday, 19 May 2021 17:13 (two years ago) link

Never mind. Paterno. Get it.

treeship., Wednesday, 19 May 2021 17:26 (two years ago) link

a lot of catholics have issues with the church. in fact most catholics ive known, including very devout ones, daily communicants and the like, have issues with the church. when i was a kid my dad, who attended seminary for a time, told me that the pope (JP II) and Mother Teresa were fascists.

i can't speak to the convert experience, i have never personally known a convert to catholicism.

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 17:45 (two years ago) link

Matt really running the gamut this afternoon, mixing in what sounds like bits of Jung, Kierkegaard, Schopenhauer even? Alongside the usual history bits:

https://www.twitch.tv/chapotraphouse

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 21:30 (two years ago) link

They finally announced that Virgil is officially departing the show.

OneSecondBefore, Thursday, 20 May 2021 04:57 (two years ago) link

Virgil Texas in Chapo history. pic.twitter.com/KNrBIBC5Dj

— Jeet Heer (@HeerJeet) February 24, 2021

Joe Bombin (milo z), Thursday, 20 May 2021 05:12 (two years ago) link

a lot of catholics have issues with the church. in fact most catholics ive known, including very devout ones, daily communicants and the like, have issues with the church. when i was a kid my dad, who attended seminary for a time, told me that the pope (JP II) and Mother Teresa were fascists.

I think currents of belief like catholicism are easier to attack because they have an actual figurehead and structure that ppl can point to. That being said, with the amount of US catholics who go "well who cares what HE thinks" every time the current pope says something slightly progressive I think ppl shouldn't be surprised at people having catholicism as their value system while rejecting the church.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 20 May 2021 09:32 (two years ago) link

They finally announced that Virgil is officially departing the show.

good. dude's been much more insufferable than funny for a while and I'm glad to have his bullshit safely quarantined on something I don't listen to. amber can stay on r*d sc*re while we're at it

intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Thursday, 20 May 2021 11:40 (two years ago) link

which episode did they announce it on?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 20 May 2021 12:39 (two years ago) link

I saw it as a screenshot (from the Patreon maybe).

Joe Bombin (milo z), Thursday, 20 May 2021 13:28 (two years ago) link

stumbled on a thread of people claiming that oren cass is virgil's brother lmfao

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 20 May 2021 13:37 (two years ago) link

had to google him, but I could see it lol

intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Thursday, 20 May 2021 13:38 (two years ago) link

tbf "Justin Cass" sounds faker than "Virgil Texas"

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 20 May 2021 14:50 (two years ago) link

the main topic/article this week is pretty staggering

The largest undercover force the world has ever known is the one created by the Pentagon over the past decade. Some 60,000 people now belong to this secret army, many working under masked identities and in low profile, all part of a broad program called "signature reduction." The force, more than ten times the size of the clandestine elements of the CIA, carries out domestic and foreign assignments, both in military uniforms and under civilian cover, in real life and online, sometimes hiding in private businesses and consultancies, some of them household name companies.

The unprecedented shift has placed an ever greater number of soldiers, civilians, and contractors working under false identities, partly as a natural result in the growth of secret special forces but also as an intentional response to the challenges of traveling and operating in an increasingly transparent world. The explosion of Pentagon cyber warfare, moreover, has led to thousands of spies who carry out their day-to-day work in various made-up personas, the very type of nefarious operations the United States decries when Russian and Chinese spies do the same.

https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-inside-militarys-secret-undercover-army-1591881

intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Friday, 21 May 2021 13:23 (two years ago) link

The Americans seems so quaint now

intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Friday, 21 May 2021 13:23 (two years ago) link

i'll be honest - i'm not into that!

nice try, signature reducer

intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Friday, 21 May 2021 15:07 (two years ago) link

i've been deep cover for years trying to infiltrate the neil young community

Is Newsweek back to being a trustworthy source? Not trolling: I was under the impression they'd become a garbage click farm

rob, Friday, 21 May 2021 15:20 (two years ago) link

this appears to be one of their rare attempts at actual journalism

intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Friday, 21 May 2021 15:22 (two years ago) link

aren't they owned by a cult or something?

I really really really wish some Anonymous dorks (lol remember them) or just literally anyone would start doxxing/ counter-catfishing the FBI agents et al who run these ridiculous ops.

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Friday, 21 May 2021 15:58 (two years ago) link

The FBI honeypotting the awkward teenager was enraging.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Friday, 21 May 2021 17:38 (two years ago) link

absolutely. magnified for me by the fact that whoever’s big brain birthed that debacle will only fail up, and retire comfortably as a real American hero

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Friday, 21 May 2021 17:45 (two years ago) link

here's my ranking of dirtbag left accounts on letterboxd

will menaker: very good at it. he'd make a good film critic

matt christman: surprisingly bad. his reviews sound like high school essays or something, doesn't read as in his "voice" probably bc he doesn't care enough about movies to rant at them

stav from cum town: really funny, a natural

flopson, Sunday, 30 May 2021 22:07 (two years ago) link

stav never having seen any movies and also getting movies mixed up is a good recurring bit

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 31 May 2021 04:51 (two years ago) link

Brace is in Dallas this weekend at a q con, making new friends wherever he goes:

pic.twitter.com/ORcyC9Z81m

— TrueAnon Pod (@TrueAnonPod) May 31, 2021

pic.twitter.com/finIKJAAV8

— TrueAnon Pod (@TrueAnonPod) May 31, 2021

And even met up with Andrew from Channel 5

Trust The Plan pic.twitter.com/yy3b1ag1Mm

— TrueAnon Pod (@TrueAnonPod) May 31, 2021

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Monday, 31 May 2021 08:34 (two years ago) link

https://preview.redd.it/7zpo61ya6w271.jpg

Joe Bombin (milo z), Thursday, 3 June 2021 03:06 (two years ago) link

Oh well maybe just a URL will work.

https://preview.redd.it/7zpo61ya6w271.jpg?auto=webp&s=525dcf24fc2c629f5e99d366f4aab3bf9f584440

Joe Bombin (milo z), Thursday, 3 June 2021 03:06 (two years ago) link

hell yeah QAA interviewed chelsea manning

https://soundcloud.com/qanonanonymous/episode-145-interview-with-chelsea-manning

intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Thursday, 3 June 2021 16:07 (two years ago) link

and the virgil metoo is in

When I was a teenager, I thought Virgil Texas was very funny. I asked him to proofread an essay I submitted to a website, and emailed it to him. The essay was about turning 16. We talked a little bit, and I thought he was very cool because he was funny and he lived in NY.

— Jennifer Seberg (@JenniferSeberg) June 9, 2021

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 19:33 (two years ago) link

cw: inappropriate behaviour with a 16 year old girl, although the thread is not graphic

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 19:36 (two years ago) link

So which of these dudes is gonna turn out to be a serial abuser?

― .oO (silby), Thursday, October 12, 2017 7:01 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i have been thinking about this too

― gbx, Thursday, October 12, 2017 5:04 PM (three years ago)

the verdict is in!

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 19:36 (two years ago) link


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