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Just finished the first season of Patriot - was fantastic.

Loath to start the second one as have heard it's rubbish.

d'oh - I meant to link to the Patriot discussion in the expanded thread.

For a show that already piles on the everyone-is-guilty-of-something grimness to a ridiculous degree, the fake-out with the little kid on "Mare" last night was some cheap bullshit.

Oh, and I just read the AV Club recap, and the writer's take (not just re: the aforementioned) comes to a totally different conclusion than I did when it comes to not just who-done-it but who-done-what. But I forget how to put on spoiler tags.

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Yeah this last episode of “Mare” was a letdown after the previous weeks. The entire gummy and vodka meltdown was ridiculous. Not invested in side plot with daughter and college radio dj gf unless said gf is *in on the murders*.

Is there only one episode left?

Still thinking that there must be some sort of Guy Pearce reveal otherwise it seems a very bit part for such a well known actor

Guy Pearce drinks out of a beer bottle weird. Like a donkey.

yeah this week was weak. siobhan’s breakdown felt cheap to me too, and I generally like that character

omg, I don't think I've ever noticed that 'show formatting help' link!

Anyway, I doubt Guy Pearce has anything to do with anything, but I wouldn't be shocked if he was guilty of something else, like everyone else. Doubt the daughter and/or gf have anything to do with anything else, either, beyond closure. (There's one episode left.) I assume the way it wraps up is Bearded brother is the father and he convinced his bro to kill Erin; bearded brother (Jeff?) is the one that, off screen, told his wife that his brother was the father, but of course I assume he was lying to her and he's the real dad. I still have no idea what Lil' Glenn Danzig has to do with anything.

Bearded brother is the father and he convinced his bro to kill Erin;

john? I don’t think it’d make sense that he went to billy about it and had him confess, would it?

confess to him, that is

You unspoiled my spoiler! Anyway, just in case I think it makes sense to me. My guess is John knocked her up and manipulated his brother into killing her, or at least helping, and then (as we saw) pressured him into confessing. Conspicuous things we don't know, or at least assume: we know John was having another affair, but it's never been revealed with whom. We (and his wife) just assume it's with the same person, but that's never been confirmed. Also, we are told Billy is the father by John's wife (Mare's friend), but she only knows that from John as well. Then the next morning, when Billy was going to go to the police, that's when Jeff suggested the spontaneous fishing trip. So I think Billy obviously had something to do with her death (covering up? being told he did it when he was drunk by Jeff?), but I think Jeff is the big bad. Why else would he want to pull a fishing trip Fredo with Billy? Unless the twist is that the gun is actually Billy's, since we only assume once again that Jeff put it there.

i think i follow your drift, but you stopped calling him john and started calling him "jeff" about halfway thru your post

anyway, seems like a strong possibility that john is the mastermind if not the outright murderer. billy had some kind of relationship with erin, and his propensity to get blackout drunk makes him a likely scapegoat and makes him willing to believe john when john tells billy that he's guilty.

has someone on the internet created some kind of family tree for this show? i have absolutely no idea how billy & john are related to kenny & erin

I *think* Billy (USA hat) and John (beard) are brothers, and Kenny (handlebar mustache) is their cousin. Erin is the daughter of Kenny, but the ... second cousin (?) of Billy and John.

i knew billy and john were brothers, and yeah i guess cousin is the relationship that makes the most sense vis a vis kenny

yeah in the first episode mare wakes billy and john up and says “you need to go see your cousin”

Everyone in this show might as well be each other's cousin, except Guy Pearce, who is like the guy that married into the family that's in over his head at the reunion picnic.

John is def the father, that's gotta be what the picture shows, why the captain wanted to get in touch w/ mare so bad knowing she was going after Billy. One thing lingering is that Mare grabbed a bottle of beer Billy was drinking in the last episode, presumably for a DNA test. Maybe they find out/confirm he's not the father? No idea what Dylan was hiding though.

Did she actually grab the beer, or just eye it to notice he nervously skedaddled after barely a sip? (Just watched again, she only eyes it suspiciously, doesn't take it.)

i was convinced Guy Pearce would be the one just for pure casting reasons alone (also literature professors in murder shows are always suspicious af)

that seems to be drying up but i am holding out slight hope. the way the show is structured they may have something else up their sleeve for him who knows

i think Glen Danzig JR is just dealing drugs or something and trying not to get caught for that hence misleading suspicious behavior and overreactions.

enjoying the show still, looking forward to final episode!

tiny thing i loved: when Zabel’s mom slapped Mare, Winslet did that loud GASP as it happened i thought that was great, very true to life - usually when people get slapped in shows they take it THEN react

Or they stoically don't react! Clearly in this case it messed her up.

(Though tbh, my reaction to Zabel's mom yelling at her that her son would still be alive if she hadn't taken him with her was "true, but Mare, mother and grandmother, would be dead instead and those two girls would still be held kidnapped by a monster at large, so ...")

They really committed to that slap. I could feel it coming on and I was still shocked by how hard it was.

I agree with suggestions above re: the real father but yes there is a lot of other cruft in here I don't get; lesbian daughter's hair and clothes are cool and her shortlived girlfriend was cute but otherwise I do not care about her storyline at all.

read an amazing theory (before this week) that actually posited that the dead son was the father of the baby. it was almost convincing.

lool whut

Whatever this show is you guys are talking about, it sounds like a trip!

Mare From Easttown on Hbomax

https://www.reddit.com/r/MareofEasttown/comments/nh2r6m/my_amazing_undebunkable_theory_version_9323/

rendered moot by this week's episode but I give this guy credit for creativity

v impressive!

"The Underground Railroad" is a masterpiece, I think. Flaws, if any, are minor and the filmmaking is just on point.

I thought this week's episode of Mare was the finale while watching it - wasn't aware there was another week until the very end. The main storyline feels like it could be wrapped up in five more minutes, which leaves 55 minutes about Drew and Siobhan?

I thought that too, until about ten minutes from the ending...had to search up to see if there was another one because I couldn't figure out how they were going to wrap everything up satisfactorily

gay emo daughter is the least interesting part of the show imo

There really should have been a trigger warning at the beginning of the Friends Reunion informing me that it was about to be hosted by James Corden

The LA Times ran a whole article about disappointed tweets around that, lol

Something like 75% of the reviews I saw on Letterboxd (because the Friends reunion is apparently a movie) expressed chagrin about that.

It was the most fan-servicy thing I’ve ever seen. We did not make it through the whole special.

New series “High on the Hog” about african american food traditions is really really great. highly recommend

Diatribe: We’ve all heard a lot about why Spotify and other music streaming services are bad for musicians - of course I totally agree and don’t need to repeat those arguments here. But I would add that streaming tv and film services are even WORSE for music makers...

And that’s because Netflix, HBO Max, and others are increasingly forcing composers into accepting work-for-hire or direct license agreements. This basically means the composer has to sign away any rights to the intellectual property and forfeit the performance royalties that many of us rely on from ASCAP, BMI etc. And it’s not as though those companies are paying generous up-front fees to make up for that lost income.

Instead they are pushing the fees ever downward and then collecting all those residual earnings off our compositions for themselves. I’ve seen offers that make me wonder who can afford to work at such low rates, but I also know how erratic this work can be and walking away from money is never an easy call. Composing for a series is a LOT of work, involving 7-day weeks and 14-hour work days, sometimes for months at a time.

I don’t have any answers to this, but as long as composers continue to accept these deals, then I’m afraid the trend will only expand into cable, broadcast and theatrical release scoring work. I am a proud member of Union of Musicians and Allied Workers and their work around pay-per-stream on Spotify etc are good and deserve support, but unfortunately film composers in the US don’t have a union at the table when negotiating with the TV streaming companies. At least not yet.

Did the Mare of Easttown finale blow up the app? I can't get HBO Max to run on a Roku in one room or the AppleTV in another room.

finale is tomorrow iirc

oh wait nvm i got my days screwed up lol

App is down. Twitter is flipping out. We’re watching Pose instead.

mare isn't playing on crave either. my discounted subscription ends tomorrow. bell lol.

Anybody else watch the 1971 documentary on Apple? Very good music/ cultural history. Lots of footage and voices from the time. 50 years ago - the past does look like another country even if many of the dividing lines still resonate today.

Yeah, I’m enjoying the shit out of 1971. They do a good job contextualizing the music socially/politically.