come anticipate Miranda Lambert's new double album The Weight of These Wings

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Indexed, Monday, 17 May 2021 14:23 (two years ago) link

I sing the chorus of “I don’t like it” in my head about a dozen times day

Heez, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 15:34 (two years ago) link

it's a whole vibe. Intimate and awfully rough around the edges, but also somehow manages to sound like more than a demos or an acoustics collection

Yeah, it's remarkable... I can't think of another album with this particular feel (although I'm sure they're out there).

like a d4mn sociopath! (morrisp), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 17:32 (two years ago) link

they don't really sound alike but the conceit reminded me of cowboy junkies trinity session

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 17:51 (two years ago) link

"She's a little instigator" is a great line.

Miranda sounds a little embarrassed (for good reason) when one of the guys shouts "Ándale!" when she finishes singing "Tequila Does."

like a d4mn sociopath! (morrisp), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 20:02 (two years ago) link

Lambert is quietly putting together one of the all-time great singer/songwriter careers

Draymond is "Mr Dumpy" (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 20 May 2021 19:50 (two years ago) link

she's already the best working singer-songwriter

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 May 2021 19:51 (two years ago) link

she's inarguably top five or so

Draymond is "Mr Dumpy" (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 20 May 2021 19:57 (two years ago) link

i never knew much of her backstory except that she was on Nashville Star

Miranda was on the new episode of that Dave Grohl show on Paramount Plus “Cradle to the Stage” with her parents & her parents are something else! throwing in with her completely, her Dad taught her to play guitar, toured with her for her first 4 years, her Mom was her first manager … and they were private investigators, not like they were raking in huge cash to start with… it was pretty amazing to see all the hard work they all collectively put into her career (her included).. just laid out like that. Really moving.

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 21 May 2021 05:50 (two years ago) link

it all comes out in the wash!

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 21 May 2021 09:30 (two years ago) link

oh yeah, her parents are characters. Worked for Paula Jones's lawyers. Lots of weird and fun anecdotes in this article:

https://www.countryliving.com/life/entertainment/a43217/miranda-lambert-parents-private-detectives/

Indexed, Friday, 21 May 2021 13:40 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

"Anchor" is such a great song. Does anyone know which of those two dudes (Ingram or Randall) is the singer (and presumably "main" songwriter)?

r u rolling pop 2021 (morrisp), Thursday, 8 July 2021 19:51 (two years ago) link

pretty sure it’s Ingram, if i recall correctly from the video

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 8 July 2021 20:27 (two years ago) link

Thanks, I'll check out some of his other stuff...

On August 26, 2009, Ingram set a Guinness record for the most radio interviews in one day, when he was interviewed 215 times.

!!

r u rolling pop 2021 (morrisp), Thursday, 8 July 2021 20:33 (two years ago) link

crikey

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 8 July 2021 20:55 (two years ago) link

there are 1440 minutes in a day

without sleeping, eating, or using the bathroom, every interview would have to last no more than 6 and a half minutes, not taking into account interview changeovers

calling bullshit on this bit of trivia

Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 10 July 2021 11:31 (two years ago) link

is there a reason not to allow for even shorter spots? like just a couple of minutes? since it’s radio there could be a lot of quick hits imo

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 10 July 2021 15:36 (two years ago) link

Do you buy this trivia?:

This is also where he met famous country music artist Taylor Swift. Jack stated they were developing a relationship though she wasn't interested.

r u rolling pop 2021 (morrisp), Saturday, 10 July 2021 15:57 (two years ago) link

I didn’t know they did a Tiny Desk thing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKK5FV6zPkY

r u rolling pop 2021 (morrisp), Sunday, 11 July 2021 16:28 (two years ago) link

they also did the first episode of this CMT network show "Campfire Sessions"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8RCYBvByyQ
http://www.cmt.com/shows/cmt-campfire-sessions

Yours in Sorrow, A Schoolboy: (forksclovetofu), Monday, 12 July 2021 16:48 (two years ago) link

Dang that Tiny Desk is good!

Indexed, Tuesday, 13 July 2021 14:00 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

this is the best album of all time

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 11 September 2022 15:18 (one year ago) link

I was listening to the first Pistol Annies yesterday and thinking the same thing. Her longevity and versatility is a gift.

Indexed, Sunday, 11 September 2022 15:22 (one year ago) link

Acquaintances on a music-loving message board I frequent expressed genuine shock when this album appeared on the RS list. They still hold fast to CEG.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 11 September 2022 15:39 (one year ago) link

Love Crazy Ex-Girlfriend but for me this is pretty obviously the best Miranda album. Albeit I mostly mean the first disc when I say that.

Tim F, Sunday, 11 September 2022 16:03 (one year ago) link

Her only mediocre album is Four the Record, which, if so, well...

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 11 September 2022 16:11 (one year ago) link

CEG is still my favorite, but "best," sure, I'm on the Wings train. There's an artistry and depth to it that is unique in her catalog, and I think she recognized that and very wisely chose to package it in a way that clearly stands out in her discography. But there's something to be said for CEG's tightness--some would find a song like "Famous in a Small Town" too tight, too Nashville, but me? I can't think of an opening three track run that I prefer in all of 21st century country music.

Indexed, Sunday, 11 September 2022 20:48 (one year ago) link

Her last two albums are its match, though. I get CEG' importance too

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 11 September 2022 21:02 (one year ago) link

Not sure if I've shared this before, but I'm almost certain my first encounter with Lambert -- who I now consider my favorite solo artist, period -- was the Stylus 2007 AOTY list where CEG placed, iirc, 2nd, and the blurb was written by none other than Alfred Soto.

Indexed, Monday, 12 September 2022 14:29 (one year ago) link

lol that's right!

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 September 2022 14:32 (one year ago) link

my wife and I watched her season of Nashville Star, way back in another lifetime. she was clearly terrific, but i *think* i remember feeling like they picked the right winner? not certain about that. but i liked ol' Buddy Jewell.

alpine static, Monday, 12 September 2022 23:21 (one year ago) link

platinum is her best album to me. she expanded her sound and at the same time the songwriting is as sharp and witty as ever, while also being emotionally affecting, and catchy. it's like what taylor did w/ 'red' except (imo) even better. or what kacey did w/ 'golden hour.' there's no fat on the album at all. "girls," "priscilla," bathroom sink" couldn't have been on any of the albums before that & those are perfect songs to me. just great songwriting in a very classic sense and with production that fleshes out her sound in a natural way. and then you have like "smokin and drinkin" where she does something completely new and pulls it off. "little red wagon" sounds like it could be on the first be your own pet album. the lyric "something about platinum irrefutably / looks as good on records as it does on me" is positively mariah carey-esque. "another sunday in the south" is an effortless southern rock homage... my favorite closer of hers. the bridge on "holding on to you" ("baby we just rolled in / it's cold here in michigan..."). prob a top 10 album ever for me honestly.

but i can't hate on anyone who thinks weight of these wings is her best album, that's the album that made me fall in love w/ her music. if you took the best 16 tracks on that it might be better than platinum but it's amazing that she did a double album and i happily play it all the way through. "happiness ain't prison but there's freedom in a broken heart."

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 14 September 2022 02:58 (one year ago) link

i actually think wildcard is closer in quality to platinum than i would've thought possible, it's great in the same way tho obv less great. has at least three of her best ever songs to me. revolution is the fourth classic to me. i need to spend more time w/ CEG

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 14 September 2022 03:03 (one year ago) link

a question i'm not sure i'd ever be able to answer is which album between weight of these wings ("runnin just in case" & "i've got wheels") and platinum ("girls" & "another sunday in the south") has the better opener/closer combo

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 14 September 2022 03:07 (one year ago) link

I put Platinum one spot ahead of Wings on my decade ballot, but I consider "Somethin' Bad" one of her worst songs.

re: Openers/Closers, she's always been so adept at making and sequencing coherent albums, but Kerosene, CEG, and Wings would be my podium finishers. I don't know how she did it but she somehow took the album opener from one of my all-time favorite country albums, slowed it down a hair, and made it the perfect send-off to CEG. The way that track dissolves piece by piece and is left with just the drumbeat gets me every time.

Indexed, Wednesday, 14 September 2022 13:43 (one year ago) link

I'm a little embarrassed b/c Platinum topped my 2014 album list. At the time I cringed at the title track, "Somethin' Bad," "Automatic," and "Gravity is a Bitch," the kind of shtick that made FTR stink. But Platinum also has "Smokin' and "Drinkin'," "Vice," and "Bathroom Sink (her best self-written song imo).

Wildcard and Palomino astonish me with their confidence, and they owe a lot to Wings.

My current ranking:

Wings
Wildcard
Crazy Ex-Girlfriend
Palomino
Kerosene
Platinum
Revolution
Four the Record

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 September 2022 14:09 (one year ago) link

i've had a tough time getting into palomino honestly. it's all a bit... jaunty to me. but i need to revisit

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 14 September 2022 18:18 (one year ago) link

it is quite jaunty! i love pretty much all the songs - i think it’d be a great roadtrip album. but mostly i love playing on friday evening after i’m done with my work week, they’re all pretty good “letting off steam” songs imo

i misheard the chorus for actin up initially, i thought it was “i want a car ride home, a california glow” instead of the correct lyric “colorado high, california glow” which makes sooo much more sense lol

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 14 September 2022 18:31 (one year ago) link

otm

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 September 2022 20:55 (one year ago) link

Yeah, I'll actually login for the first time since the Plague Years started to do this.

Here's how I assessed her full catalogue a few months back (on Twitter, hence the character counts):

A rankdown of the strongest catalog-- and it's not particularly close-- in this century's popular music. Side hustles in (#) but still ranked, and those side hustles are also better than most mainline careers. There's just no one else on Miranda Lambert's level.

#8 (#12) Wildcard (***)
Her contemporaries would dismember a hobo for an album this solid to be their worst. Too many half-baked, everything-to-everyone metaphors ("Bluebird" included, y'all) in the songwriting for a writer of her caliber, but some real winners, too.

#7 (#11) Four the Record (***1/2)
The heinous title tips its hand that something's a bit off for the first time, and it's the first of her albums to include anything that's actually poor ("Over You," still her worst single by miles, "Baggage Claim"). Still: Look at Miss Ohio.

(#10) Annie Up (***1/2)
Another bad wordplay as a warning sign. On their 2nd outing, they were still working out how seriously they wanted PAs to be taken after their debut's odd reception; it's the only time these 3, solo or together, ever sounded at all unsure of themselves.

(#9) The Marfa Tapes (****)
Points toward what her post-mainstream career might sound like, but let's hope that includes collaborators whose voices blend better with hers, less problematic cultural signifiers. But who else's first drafts are this good?

#6 (#8) Kerosene (****)
She was brilliant ("Kerosene," "Me and Charlie..," "What About GA") right out of the gate, conventional wisdom be damned; the slant rhymes and first-person details that she deploys better than anyone were already intact.

#5 (#7) Palomino (****)
An album that finds stability and comfort in restlessness and camaraderie in outsiders. She's covered these themes on individual songs before, but never with empathy this deep or with singing this nuanced. Some career-best lines in these songs.

(#6) Hell On Heels (****)
A slap in the face to the genre's authenticity fetishists, the Annies' debut revels in its artifice. Like the contemporaneous Laura Bell Bundy, they use country signifiers as a drag revue, and with killer, hook-forward songs.

#4 (#5) The Weight Of These Wings (****)
Less about her celebrity divorce than it is about how trauma re-forges a person's identity, it's her moodiest and most inward-focusing set. "Vice" remains a career-best, but, like most double-albums, this does have filler to cut.

#3 (#4) Revolution (****1/2)
Lacking the thematic heft of many of her other albums, it's still, song-for-song, her most consistently *great* set, a high-water mark for quality albums Music Row actually embraced.

#2 (#3) Platinum (****1/2)
Divorce Albums are a cliché, so Miranda, always ahead of the curve, made a Pre-divorce Album: Grateful for who she's been, keenly aware of who she is now, unapologetic about who she's going to be. A few clunkers, yes, but a bunch of her highest highs.

(#2) Interstate Gospel (*****)
No lingering doubts from its predecessor that they're a singular act of substance, the Annies' Interstate Gospel is the truth you *should* find in every hotel nightstand, a vision of an unmoored population that finds grace in limbo.

#1 (#1) Crazy-Ex Girlfriend (*****)
I said what I said: "Brash, insightful, wry, and, above all else, *smart*, Crazy Ex-Girlfriend confirms that Miranda Lambert is... a country music legend in the making, and the most vital artist Music Row has produced in a generation."

jon_oh, Wednesday, 14 September 2022 23:53 (one year ago) link

She's the best popular singer-songwriter.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 September 2022 23:57 (one year ago) link

I can't rank those marvelous Pistol Annies albums with Lambert albums.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 September 2022 23:58 (one year ago) link

She's absolutely the best popular singer-songwriter. I don't know that I would really even entertain a different argument.

xp-Alfred: That's why I offset them in (): They're deserving of their own consideration, but I also think it has been overlooked-- outside of Very Online Country Music Writers-- how great they truly are. Feels weird to exclude them entirely, when they're of a piece with Lambert's overall career.

jon_oh, Thursday, 15 September 2022 00:05 (one year ago) link

Four the Record looks especially disappointing next to the release of the first Pistol Annies album.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 September 2022 00:18 (one year ago) link

Surprised to see Marfa Tapes rated so low. (Are the problematic cultural signifiers a reference to “Tequila Does”?)

mosh pit insurance agent (morrisp), Thursday, 15 September 2022 00:25 (one year ago) link

To me, their voices not blending is sort of part of the charm, but I get the critique.

mosh pit insurance agent (morrisp), Thursday, 15 September 2022 00:26 (one year ago) link

wait, i'm not much of a lyrics person ... what are the problematic cultural signifiers on Marfa Tapes?

alpine static, Thursday, 15 September 2022 00:29 (one year ago) link

oh sorry, xp ... should've read the "posted since" more closely

alpine static, Thursday, 15 September 2022 00:29 (one year ago) link

I respect The Marfa Tapes as demos for Palomino but I haven't listened to it since May 2021 and probably won't go back.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 September 2022 00:35 (one year ago) link

marfa tape - surely technically imperfect campfire harmonies are the whole point imo? the crackle of the fire or the wind in the microphone, shuffles & sniffles all part of the vibe

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 15 September 2022 00:54 (one year ago) link


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