Lord of the Rings

i think it should be a Mega Man clone called Dúne Dain.

shit why didn't I go with Dúna Dan

And here I thought you were making a deep-cut reference to actual NES game Strider.

2 towers 2 furious

I know that once you start on the LOTR tumblrs you can spend your life there - but this is lovely

https://prismatic-bell.tumblr.com/post/189586763336/ekjohnston-kyraneko-kittyknowsthings

i mean, honestly it’s amazing the Elves had as many languages and dialects as they did, considering Galadriel (for example) is over seven thousand years old.

english would probably have changed less since Chaucer’s time, if a lot of our cultural leaders from the thirteenth century were still alive and running things.

(and other less couth things)

That's pretty cool, will have to share that.

Another team of Tolkien podcasters -- more well-known than us! -- bagged a pretty good interview with Ralph Bakshi about his film version

https://luke-shelton.com/2021/05/28/tep-32-ralph-bakshi/

Anyway as for our own podcast, latest episode is live!

https://www.megaphonic.fm/bythebywater/27

Meanwhile, not inaccurate

Canonically, the Lord of the Rings is a memoir by hobbits, which has several detailed descriptions of meals throughout, so maybe the whole saga is just one of those recipe blogs where they have to tell you a whole epic story before getting to the food.

— Sean Kelly (@StorySlug) June 3, 2021

lol otm

this applies a lot to A Song of Ice and Fire (and gets worse with each book with multi page descriptions of various meals)

i just purchased the first wheel of time book. i guess i will soon be learning about the cuisine of the time world

Eat, Love, Destroy The Ring

So, yes, news and a half here:

https://deadline.com/2021/06/lord-of-the-rings-anime-film-the-war-of-the-rohirrim-new-line-1234773024/

A lot to chew over in terms of what this means vis-a-vis future projects, the exact rights split between Amazon and WB, where the MGM purchase might come into play, etc. etc.

But it's a great story to focus on and I'm damn intrigued at what could result. Will note that I do know one of the producers and I have faith in his ability to see it through, so hopefully everyone else is at that level.

The horn of Helm Hammerhand will sound in the Deep once more!

New episode! Basically, blood and death.

https://www.megaphonic.fm/bythebywater/28

New episode later this week -- meantime, have a read:

https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/07/24/soviet-union-tolkien-art-dissidents/

A new episode? Why yes! Eagles eagles eagles.

https://www.megaphonic.fm/bythebywater/29

well, yeah

look carefully at the background of the image!

Amazon says its (as yet untitled) Lord of the Rings series will make its debut on Sept 2, 2022: pic.twitter.com/AJb9YRBTYX

— Dave Itzkoff (@ditzkoff) August 2, 2021

They've also shared this first image from the series: pic.twitter.com/9pyvZGiaMg

— Dave Itzkoff (@ditzkoff) August 2, 2021

I thought this was good, fucken long but early on a good quarter of it is about Bakshi's history, once he gets into the technical shit it's golden
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cr_rb_pitHk

Yeah one of my cohosts posted about this this morning. I was just thinking it would be good to have a 'making-of' book here but efforts like this help flesh it out for sure.

at first i thought that might be the scandalous x-rated tale of tom bombadil

would watch

As it happens, my other cohost did this the other day. (But in truth, the joke was mine.)

Dom Bombadil pic.twitter.com/tg7QN14kb7

— Jared Pechacek (@vandroidhelsing) August 16, 2021

"Who is Dom Bombadil, lady?" "He is." *pause* "He is zaddy."

would DEFINITELY watch

Our new episode is up! Gondolin, it falls.

https://www.megaphonic.fm/bythebywater/30

Also currently about halfway through The Nature of Middle-earth. There's quite a bit of math.

more pictures from Tove Jansson's Hobbit are at https://lithub.com/take-a-look-at-tove-janssons-illustrations-for-a-swedish-edition-of-the-hobbit/

moomin.com says in 2017 "Finnish publisher WSOY has released a new edition of the book in Finnish. The book Hobitti eli Sinne ja takaisin is illustrated by Tove Jansson."

New episode on Monday. In the meantime, enjoy.

In the Silmarillion Elwing appeared to the mariner Eärendil as a bird and helped him sail to Valinor and petition the Valar to save Middle-Earth.

— Baltimore Orioles (@Orioles) October 1, 2021

the orioles twitter account has been on fire lately

So we talked about the new book:

https://www.megaphonic.fm/bythebywater/31

It's twenty years of...this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1dU1HZ_73M

Our new episode on said first film will be out shortly.

And it is out! Enjoy!

https://www.megaphonic.fm/bythebywater/33

Meantime, the things you learn

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/features/lord-of-the-rings-oral-history-fellowship-b1975180.html

was just thinking, not apropos of the 20th anniversary - rather because I am watching the hobbit trilogy for the first time, they will surely do another cinematic adaptation of lord of the rings at some stage. maybe in another 10 or 20 years though?

Don't see why not, especially if the TV show gets any traction

Maybe a bilbo origin story

The exact state of rights is mysterious, but it seems like Warner Bros is holding on to their option, given the anime in the works that'll be set in Rohan during the time of Helm Hammerhand and is explicitly said to be in continuity with the Jackson films (so likely the same design for Helm's Deep etc.). There's absolutely room for a new version and doing it as a full adaptation via streaming could certainly work, but doubtful that Amazon's going to get the chance any time soon. Again, though, the rights state is ultimately mysterious, since there are four players -- the estate, Middle Earth Enterprises (aka Saul Zaentz's holding company for Hobbit/LOTR rights in specific), WB and Amazon -- and there's no public clarity on who is doing what.

Primes wheel of time adaptation suggests theyre not exactly flinging money around it looks like shit

I do wonder. Well, we'll find out in September.

Our new episode out in a few days; in the meantime, this whole thread is gold (he's about three-quarters through it)

1) throwing a guy off a cliff for an execution is metal as hell

2) what the hell is wrong with Idril?? Eöl is the worst dude, he imprisoned and eventually killed her aunt, and she’s still like “oh I don’t like this execution business, we should forgive him, I hate my dad now”

— Max Rebo’s Roadie (@KevKoeser) January 7, 2022

Bah, that's not the start of the thread:

some holiday break reading pic.twitter.com/R4KpZDoW52

— Max Rebo’s Roadie (@KevKoeser) December 23, 2021

idril otm, weirdly!!

Anyway, new episode? Why yes.

https://www.megaphonic.fm/bythebywater/34

And a new episode on the Shire, because why wouldn't we do that?

https://www.megaphonic.fm/bythebywater/35

Zeal of a convert---from ILB's Speculative etc thread:
I finally read The Lord of the Rings--finally, that is, after putting it down in early high school--thee appointed tyme of maximum susceptibility--upon realizing that I was expected to go epically Questing with a hero who had furry toes. Apparently a lot of detractors don't get past the first forty pages, or the first sentence, about Bilbo's elevetny-first birthday, but the whole point is the pull from light to dark and back again, and the way they get mingled---leaders on all levels, incl. drafted patrol leader Frodo, are subject to temptation, corruption (in the sense of physical and psychic wounds, some of them permanent/recurring--plus of course effects on Middle-earth, "the circles of the world," as mentioned briefly, in an end in one of the Appendices of this 1990s one-vol edition: circles, like the Ring, which must have their own kind of end, limits, be something, some thing, however elusively so, 'til the reader can peer through them, as Tom Bombadil does, and see something beyond. He does it and laughs, it's all nonsense to him, seeing his unchanged turf, but he knows it's real enough to others, with real enough, inescapable consequences for all, even a victorious Quest/Anti-Quest means the Grail/Anti-Grail will both save the world and destroy it, in terms of sucking the magic out of it (no spoiler, Gandalf tells Frodo that right off, when he drafts him for the destruction of the precious, corrupting Ring, cos magic's gone as far as it can go; time for the cycles continue by secular means, and slow down the death spiral, anyway)
One limitation: we're told the significance of most things as they happen---which is better than being swamped by codes, as can happen with Gene Wolfe--but an enjoyable exception is being allowed to ponder the fate of Sauron. I think (aside from his own obsessive psycylcling through Ages) seeing though his stone has intensified his focus on the Ring---stones don't lie, but their views, the contexts they create/intensify, given the viewer's own anxieties, antagonisms, hopes and dreads, have a lasting and sometimes entrapping affect on several characters. So yeah, I disagree with those who claim Tolkien doesn't do psychology--and the effect of the stone is not so far from science fictional concerns (note also the networking of stones).
And when the ship sails, it sails, buddy. Not that it doesn't leave some real nice (and not-at-all nice) stuff behind. "There's a feeling I get/When I look the West." Eh, guess I better go listen to some more of those folk-death-or-doom-metal promos (in recent years, Wino's way ahead of the pack). Also, now I need to check out the ancient albums of Cirith Ungol. But book-wise, should I read more Tolkien, beyond The Hobbit?
PS: search "Tolkien" on The New Yorker site, get lots of good results, especially Auden, Gopnik, and Anthony Lane.

― dow, Sunday, May 4, 2014 10:54 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Also the stress of leadership on all levels is a big part of the fateful psychology.

― dow, Sunday, May 4, 2014 11:05 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

worth putting on record again my love for these posts

And damn good posts they are, don't know if I've seen them before.

New episode out Tuesday -- our thoughts on the Valar as well as a certain new trailer and the like...

circling strings --> staccato stabs --> mournful theme

still floats through my head at odd moments fully two decades on from first exposure. i love Shore's scoring but this is the real shit imo

also having a pretty niche 'things you were shockingly old when you learned' moment right now as i realise for the very first time that blokey doing the end credits of each radio episode of LoTR is the same guy that did the little joke and then the end credits on Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, which i somehow never noticed while wearing out my cassette tapes of both as a youth. Hitchiker's being the second Radio 4 series which carried me through an unhappy childhood (and the third being a series of adaptations of the Jeeves and Wooster stories starring Michael Hordern (aka Gandalf) as Jeeves - it all connects!).

God bless BBC Radio 4 circa 1975-1981, the pinnacle of public service broadcasting

enjoyed your post on the adaptation above also WD

still floats through my head at odd moments fully two decades on from first exposure. i love Shore's scoring but this is the real shit imo

It's pretty fantastic. Absolutely does the job. (A classic compare/constrast -- this versus the opening theme from Bakshi's version. In a word, no. Bakshi famously hated it too but had no say in the matter.)