Things you were shockingly old when you learned

it should be valter

yeah that was my point, like saying Mike Foo-coe...or Hore-hay Borcheese

Oh I see, yeah that is weird

If it's any comfort, I find anglophones are generally more careful and willing to learn than the French, who are often offended by the suggestion that a phonetic effort might be required.

I was in a restaurant in Prague once with a guy from LA called Chandler, he asked for Worcestershire sauce but came out with this bizarre mangled stream of consonants. I told him how it was pronounced and also that hey also did you know I am actually from Worcester and I used to walk past the factory every day on my way home from school. He was not impressed at all, in fact he was VERY offended to be corrected on the pronunciation of an English word and maintained that Woorshestershisheyre or w/e was a perfectly correct pronunciation.

lol what a dipshit.

Watching Stephen Bush and he's just pronounced albeit as ahl-be-it.

(Pronunciation of words obv doesn’t matter but refusing to at least try to get names right is rude & kinda racist imo)

Like English presenters pronouncing the 2020 Booker Prize winner as Shoogy Bain, for instance.

ooft

Sow crates

But that’s it, you don’t need to go to far-flung origins - even with idk colm tóibín or whoever there’s this sense of “oh it’s not worth bothering to learn Irish names”

Obviously there are sounds people will have trouble with like the guttural r (different ways of saying r in general) & I’m not saying everyone has to reproduce those but it’s clear when the attempt isn’t even being made or ppl just guess & im like you know you could just look this up? Or ask? Just v disrespectful

(We are way off shockingly old topic but we always are tbf)

Slight change of direction, Chris Bailey and Ed Kuepper of the Saints were both immigrants, Bailey from Northern Ireland and Kuepper from Germany.

So how do you pronounce the sauce that is Worcestershire?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worcestershire

Believe there is an Abbott and Costello sketch about that. Will let those who care to search for it

woos-ter-sher sauce, or usually just woos-ter sauce, the spelling might look complicated but the pronunciation is not.

route/rout is regional in the us

In my experience it's more urban/rural than regional.

Watching Stephen Bush and he's just pronounced albeit as ahl-be-it.

― Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Saturday, May 15, 2021 11:42 AM (two hours ago)

wait what? https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/albeit

Was gonna say...

Ah, have we found another one? Do Americans say al-be-it and British (apart from Stephen Bush) say all-be-it?

https://cdns-images.dzcdn.net/images/cover/83232bc511a3466b0a2a841a717d8c8d/350x350.jpg

Aargh, I came to post that too!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fckqglxb49s

Come on, the guy can't even spell night.

I have just found out that Worcestershire sauce is sold in a paper bag in the USA.

Almost forgot about that!

I am a US-er and don't think I've ever heard anyone say (you can call me) al-be-it. Not discounting the possibility, though, we love mispronouncing words.

Is all Worcestershire sauce sold in a paper bag, though? I thought that was just a Lea & Perkins thing. But maybe it's because we have an affinity for putting fermented things in bags here.

(Oh, there's one: only just discovered a couple years back that Worcestershire sauce is fermented.)

Perkins?

I think my albeit confusion stemmed from misinterpreting Tom's phonetic spelling of "ahl-be-it". That to me reads as awl-be-it not al-b.-it

this is why everyone should learn the phonetic alphabet

Yes, I had the same confusion

Perkins?

Wayne?

were you shockingly old when you learned the name of the worcestershire sauce company

So sorry: Leah & Perkings. Damn autocorrect.

I just heard another one! David Attenborough pronouncing “algae” Al Ghee as in:

What’s it all about
Algae

Whether you hard or ‘soft’ G*, it rhymes with Alfie, no?

* Algae (/ˈældʒi, ˈælɡi/; singular alga /ˈælɡə/)

Yes, sorry. That part belongs on another thread. #MoreThanOneThread

Attenborough has form - his pronunciation of 'orang utan' weirded me out.

aw-rang oo-tan?

Haha I switch between hard & soft g for algae, it is one of the words that I never know how I’m going to say until it comes out of my mouth

speaking of which I've been vaping a flavour called orang-o-tang this morning

A while back, there was a whole thing about how Benedict Cumberbatch can't say the word "penguin"

Won't more like.

I only recently learned that the Greyhawk Dungeons and Dragons setting is directly derived from Gary Gygax’s first D&D group—like, the characters are literally his son’s and friends’ and his own original player characters from their very first campaigns. When I was a kid I always wondered why they had two distinct “classic D&D” settings (Greyhawk and Forgotten Realms) without some kind of obvious gimmick to set one of them apart, the way every other 2.5/3rd edition setting had (like Ravenloft=horror, Dark Sun=desert, Dragonlance=totally dragon-centric, etc).

George Stephen Morrison (January 7, 1919 – November 17, 2008) was a United States Navy rear admiral (upper half) and naval aviator. Morrison was commander of the U.S. naval forces in the Gulf of Tonkin during the Gulf of Tonkin Incident of August 1964, which sparked an escalation of American involvement in the Vietnam War. He was the father of Jim Morrison, the lead singer of the rock band The Doors, who died in July 1971.

yeah like really ironic.Jimbo's dad caused the Vietnam war. How countercultural, well no wonder he wanted to kill him.
Or something like that.

mother... I want me tea!

is this something that's commonly known? I haven't seen the Oliver Stone movie or any documentary about Jim, seems like it should be a big deal in his story.

I would advise giving the Stone movie a very wide berth, it's worse than garbage. Lol iirc one of the JM childhood scenes was him having some kind of mystic soul transfer with a native Indian in the back of the family Chev!