Miguel Cabrera Needs His Own Thread

i love a good interactive timeline

that guy recently did one of those for all-time bWAR

i like how it's quiet for a while in the 80s-90s and then suddenly here comes bonds

that's the most publicity ross barnes has gotten in a century

but until deacon white and the very normal and not racist at all cap anson came along, ross barnes was a fucking legend

i think i made an ed delanhanty reference as a small child to some baseball guy. he had no idea what i was talking about, but that was a sweet reference for a kid in the single digits of age

i was probably like "this kid is no ed delanhanty, that's for fucking sure", and he just didn't get it

kind of suprised to see gehringer still in the top 15 as of 1942. i guess i always thought of him as one of those guys who had a crazy good BA in the 30s

sorry, just got to put itt, why not:

In honor of the great Willie Mays and his 90th birthday on Thursday, I have created an interactive graphic that details the progressive All-Time leaders in Position Player bWAR.

Check this out to see many of your favorite players throughout MLB history! #SayHeyKid ⚾️🔥@SFGiants pic.twitter.com/wrTOYXHh9H

— Greg Harvey (@BetweenTheNums) May 8, 2021

i love in 1988 when schmidt is like "hey" at the very bottom of the top 15

most underrated legend: tris speaker
honorable mention: mel ott

kinda interesting there is a kind of historical stasis from like 1977-1990 and what does that mean re: peoples' fondness for the go-go 80's skinny pants era

it just means they love the underdogs

willie mcgee is not on that list. he is a living legend

kinda interesting there is a kind of historical stasis from like 1977-1990 and what does that mean re: peoples' fondness for the go-go 80's skinny pants era

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Good question! My instinct is to think that maybe that the game was more balanced?

Sure but balance can also suggest the game wasnt played very good? Im not saying that from a max efficiency POV just like maybe baseball players secretly sucked

Really it’s the skinny pants.

it's just the product of time. early on ross barnes is a stud with 28 WAR and you can see all these guys pass him; after a century of greats, you need 100 WAR just to appear at the bottom of the list (and the two that show up after 1990 had some chemical help after all). trout may be the only shot for someone else to break in in our lifetimes

also WAR is relative -- it has nothing to say about absolute quality of play. adam ottavino is right that babe ruth would be no match for today's pitchers (or likely even those of the 80s)

100 war won’t happen for pitchers again I believe, unless scientific progress extended the careers of starting pitchers by a substantial margin. Hitters I’m less sure. I wouldn’t be surprised if Betts got in the 85-95 range, and thinking that makes me believe another player in the next 30-40 years could get to 100.

Good June: 329/.356/.494. Just passed Gehrig and Crime Dog.

498

499

500 tmrw?

✔

Hurrah

Glad to see everyone at the game seemed to know what was up.

shortstop with plus defense

https://i.redd.it/58yk05jwk4j71.jpg

Intense eyes!

NOT A CLOGGER, and has now set this trivial record:

Eight consecutive hits for Miguel Cabrera, who lines Michael Wacha's 2-1 pitch into center. Cabrera is the first Tiger in the expansion era (since 1961) to hit in eight consecutive plate appearances.

— Jason Beck (@beckjason) September 10, 2021

wait, we're using "since the expansion era" as a timeframe now? but "since the expansion era" makes it less impressive, both because it's a shorter amount of time (compared to integration/1947 or since the deadball era, 1918/19 whatever), and also the overall quality of talent dropped (same overall players and talent spread out across more teams, with more minor leaguers to fill in the gaps)

ohwell

9 straight!

The MLB record is 12, held by Johnny Kling (1902), Pinky Higgins (1932), and Walt Dropo (1952).

Two hits today; would need 14 in 6 games for 3,000. Not that he'd retire anyway.

Hits in his first two ABs tonight. He's at 2998.

2999

I feel like he has to go 4-4 here.

He'll be leading off the 8th--it'd be nice if the Jays broadcast cut away, but doubtful.

Maybe tomorrow. Busy night with an infield single, a TOOTBLAN, and a run scored from first on a double.

He's also at 599 doubles.

I’m going to guess 600 is a lot!

“Today,” Miguel Cabrera said, “I will bunt.”

— Jason Beck (@beckjason) April 21, 2022

haha, i was just reading this headline

https://i.imgur.com/uvF54F5.png

the classic intentionally-walk-the-batter-with-2999-hits

I will say that is perhaps the only time I've really missed the old intentional walk. Could have enjoyed the crowd gradually realizing what was happening... the cadence of the boos developing with each pitch...... never forget what they took from you

— Emma Baccellieri (@emmabaccellieri) April 21, 2022

1 of those 2,999 hits is an IBB he turned into a single against the O's in the mid-00s. My #1 miggy memory

*watches*

there it is! single to right field!

Damn, missed it--when did they start playing baseball so early? Anyway, saw the replay, nice clean hit.

As for the next 3,000 guy, the prospects are dismal.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/H_career.shtml

Cano (2,630, 39)
Molina (2,116, 39)
Votto (2,035, 38)
Cruz (1,924, 41)
Andrus (1,875, 33)
McCutchen (1,838, 35)
Longoria (1,818, 36)
Altuve (1,783, 32)
J. Upton (1,748, 34)
Freeman (1,722, 32)
Hosmer (1,648, 32)
Brantley (1,584, 35)
Goldschmidt (1,581, 34)

No one else is over 1,500. From that list, Altuve and Freeman have a chance--I'd go with Freeman at this point. The best bet right now, I'd say, is Machado with 1,445 at 29 and playing well. Trout still has a decent chance, with 1,428 at 30, but obviously COVID and injury-time have really slowed him down. After him, I don't think there's anyone in the top 1,000 with a chance--you may be looking at Acuna and Soto and that generation.

The prototypical Miggy knock - hard hit and oppo. The man is one of the best I’ve ever seen at going the other way. pic.twitter.com/lhC7O3oeSz

— Nick Stellini (@StelliniTweets) April 23, 2022

Was walking to (wedding anniversary) lunch, coincidentally near the park, as presumed ticket holders were legging it. That must have sucked for them.

Iglesias’ hug — aww, man.

yeah that hug was super cute