seefeel thread for discussion of relevant informations pertaining to the "quique redux" 2cd superbonus reissue (and other seefeel matters)

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and the other glitch, cd2, track 11, is a gap that shouldn't be there.

koogs, Thursday, 13 May 2021 21:17 (two years ago) link

yikes

Evan, Thursday, 13 May 2021 21:32 (two years ago) link

Is this the CD?

You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Thursday, 13 May 2021 22:22 (two years ago) link

yeah.

i made it slightly better using audacity by cutting the silence out and smoothing down the join but it's not that simple. will have another try tomorrow.

koogs, Thursday, 13 May 2021 23:08 (two years ago) link

wonder if the FLACs on Bandcamp will be corrected?

mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Friday, 14 May 2021 00:11 (two years ago) link

wonder if the FLACs on Bandcamp will be corrected?

mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Friday, 14 May 2021 00:11 (two years ago) link

sorry I'm drunk and eating ice cream

mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Friday, 14 May 2021 00:12 (two years ago) link

cd3, ch-vox redux, sounds great though (and i don't know it as much as i thought i did)

koogs, Friday, 14 May 2021 11:01 (two years ago) link

Just ordered the box; apparently the first edition sold out, but importcds had copies for $24 (cheaper than Bleep, and the shipping was *much* cheaper).

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 14 May 2021 13:01 (two years ago) link

so, the things from compilations that are still not collected, a probably incomplete list

Sonics - https://touched.bandcamp.com/album/found-sound-2
Ever Me - https://audioscope.bandcamp.com/album/music-for-a-good-home-3
Is It Now and Ripley - https://subrosalabel.bandcamp.com/album/water-architecture
Lief - Ambient 4 "isolationism"
Phase Maze - Melody Maker Quid Deal cassette
Acrobat - Warp 20 (Maximo Park cover!)
When Face Was Face (isan remix) - Warp 10+3
Air Eyes (In Her Emerald Mix) - Warp 10+3
Spangle (Kid606 Rebootleg Remix) - https://soundcloud.com/kid606/seefeel-spangle-kid606

of which the only one i don't have is the last. less than i thought tbh, but i'm probably thinking of all the little disjecta bits that appeared on compilations and small releases. and the split with zavoloka which was a clifford solo release.

(that isan remix is one of my favourite things ever, they've basically used it as a backing track and written another tune over the top of it)

koogs, Friday, 14 May 2021 17:44 (two years ago) link

(i lie. Touched "Found Sound 2" is different from "Touched 2" so that's another one i don't have)

koogs, Friday, 14 May 2021 17:49 (two years ago) link

Oh, ta for pointing out that ISAN mix. I own it and love both ISAN and Seefeel ... but somehow I'd forgotten it's existence.

djh, Friday, 14 May 2021 18:30 (two years ago) link

This was on a "Volume" mag/CD: Seefeel – Come Alive (Climatic Phase #1 Mix)

djh, Friday, 14 May 2021 18:33 (two years ago) link

(that was also on the quique redux cd though, so i counted that as collected, just not on the new box. volume 7 fwiw)

koogs, Friday, 14 May 2021 18:43 (two years ago) link

Ah, missed that it had been collected.

djh, Friday, 14 May 2021 18:50 (two years ago) link

Time To Find Me (Saturnalia Mix) - The Sound Of Mob Culture
(mp3 here https://www.podomatic.com/podcasts/davecinzano/episodes/2006-09-20T12_10_49-07_00 )

koogs, Friday, 14 May 2021 19:04 (two years ago) link

typically great Sherburne p4k piece on the reissues

The bass and drums, cornerstones of everything Seefeel had done until now, have momentarily fallen silent; this is a strictly liquid landscape, a vaporous guitar etude that twists like ink dissipating in water. It is the sound of pure electricity, exhausted and forlorn, a haunted dial tone singing deathbed lullabies.

https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/seefeel-rupt-and-flex-1994-96/

assert (MatthewK), Saturday, 15 May 2021 13:45 (two years ago) link

Just picked up the box at my local. Fingers crossed re the glitches (tho I'm not even sure I would notice.)

henry s, Saturday, 15 May 2021 15:56 (two years ago) link

they are on the digital copies too, if the bleep website is indicative - you can hear the worst right at the end of their clip of Monastic.

i wonder if the second pressing will be different?

koogs, Saturday, 15 May 2021 16:22 (two years ago) link

I'm guessing someone has actually told Warp??

djh, Saturday, 15 May 2021 17:19 (two years ago) link

Hmmm. Maybe I'm not very good at this, but I don't detect any glitches at the end of "Monastic" on my copy.

henry s, Saturday, 15 May 2021 17:51 (two years ago) link

not at the end, ~54 seconds in

(the sample on the bleep website is 60 seconds long so it's at the end of that)

koogs, Saturday, 15 May 2021 17:56 (two years ago) link

Ah! Yep, there it is. At least it doesn't skip around, and perhaps this will be something of a collector's item someday, like that upside-down plane stamp.

henry s, Saturday, 15 May 2021 18:08 (two years ago) link

on disc 2 track 9, you can hear them striking the same rib twice in succession yet they produce two clearly different tones

mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Saturday, 15 May 2021 18:40 (two years ago) link

I emailed Warp on Friday (Aus time) so will see if I get a reply when they wake up today...
I got my copy from Bleep, so the digital copies from Bleep are definitely affected.
You can tell from the track lengths on Bandcamp that they are too.

FYI I made an edit of "Monastic" to get rid of the glitch - used some identical bars from later on.
Don't want to share here because copyright, but if you own it and want to listen properly, DM me? (I'm here so rarely I don't even know how that works!)

raven, Sunday, 16 May 2021 23:05 (two years ago) link

Monastic is a previously-unreleased track, no? Maybe the glitch is meant to be there.

mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Sunday, 16 May 2021 23:31 (two years ago) link

raven's fix is nice btw, invisible mending, i was impressed.

i would say from both hearing and seeing that it's not deliberate. it occurs only once and the hole is too ragged, the silence too flat.

koogs, Monday, 17 May 2021 01:59 (two years ago) link

Thanks koogs, yeah I've done this before :)
Agreed, it's not deliberate. There's actually part of at least a bar missing, and a tiny bit of pure silence. It's a mistake.

Haven't heard back from Warp yet (but then why would they reply to some random? Well, maybe they will.)

raven, Monday, 17 May 2021 08:51 (two years ago) link

Fairly certain that if you're suggesting something is faulty then they should/would.

djh, Thursday, 20 May 2021 17:41 (two years ago) link

They ain't, I'm afraid.
I just posted a comment on Warp's Facebook page to try and get their attention :)

raven, Friday, 21 May 2021 12:46 (two years ago) link

These might be sourced from downmix DATs so could it be a tape dropout/error?

assert (MatthewK), Friday, 21 May 2021 20:29 (two years ago) link

I decided to fire up Audacity and fix the Monastic glitch as well... it's pretty wild that we're at a point where we (well, we're probably more on the nerd end of society than the average) can just kinda casually correct such errors and get on with things... sure the glitch is on the CD, but I listen to the FLACs or mp3s 99% of the time so

mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Sunday, 30 May 2021 18:39 (two years ago) link

So nobody ever got a reply from Warp about this, hey?
They're just gonna slide on, pretending there's nothing wrong?

raven, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 13:34 (two years ago) link

I read on the Hoffman forum that they are fixing it for the second pressing. I understand they have withdrawn the first pressing for sale. Its listed as 'available in mid July' or something. A manufacturing error that is not on the DATs.

ringworm, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 16:56 (two years ago) link

I wonder if that's why I never got my physical copy?

mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 16:58 (two years ago) link

Interesting to hear, ringworm! Wonder if those of us who got the first pressing (at least direct) will get a fix...

raven, Thursday, 10 June 2021 03:41 (two years ago) link

I thought if anyone was gonna complain about audio quality/glitches they'd be all over it. Sure'nuff a quick google turned up their thread! https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/seefeel-reissues-may-14-2021.1076263/

ringworm, Thursday, 10 June 2021 08:17 (two years ago) link

Someone pasted this from Bleep, I think
"We are aware of this, yes. I have been speaking to the production team at Warp today and they are hoping to get these issues resolved asap in terms of replacing discs (including for those who have already purchased) and updating the digital downloads where necessary"

ringworm, Thursday, 10 June 2021 08:19 (two years ago) link

Interesting to read in the Simon Reynolds interview that "Charlotte's Mouth" turned into "Starethrough" which then turned into "Ch-vox" – been listening to those for years, but never caught the (pretty clear) similarity until playing them one after another.

with hidden noise, Friday, 11 June 2021 01:36 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

new interview here:

https://toneglow.substack.com/p/tone-glow-070-seefeel

disraeli grinds my gears (NickB), Monday, 28 June 2021 13:45 (two years ago) link

Great interview!

I wonder if Mark and Sarah ever saw this? (forward to 9'59")

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLGs41vQ8EU

Maresn3st, Monday, 28 June 2021 14:10 (two years ago) link

"Sarah lived in Basingstoke!" was one of my main takeaways from the interview (I also did).

djh, Monday, 28 June 2021 18:27 (two years ago) link

five months pass...

KMRU mix: https://bleep.com/release/257438-seefeel-rapture-to-rupt

(or a free version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFaIBt7Akz4)

djh, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 19:38 (two years ago) link

call me when they make another album with the self-title lineup

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 1 December 2021 22:29 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

one of the kids on Junior Bake-Off is called 'Quique'

(kee-kay they are pronouncing it, i've always put a w in it, or two)

koogs, Monday, 10 January 2022 17:47 (two years ago) link

just “keek” isn’t it? Poor kid.

assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 10 January 2022 19:33 (two years ago) link

It's been a name in Spanish for at least a century if not longer, but sounds like ki-kay.

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Monday, 10 January 2022 19:38 (two years ago) link

Oh that’s good to know, I just imagined it was some sad dude like myself imposing his idea of taste. Glad I was merely ignorant.

assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 10 January 2022 20:10 (two years ago) link

Now his brother Filter Dub...

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Monday, 10 January 2022 20:16 (two years ago) link

Any idea if ordering this now gets the corrected CDs without the two issues noted above? Anyone ordered a copy recently?

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 11 January 2022 16:18 (two years ago) link


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