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I am comfortable leaving these posts here for the last ilxor to judge. we all know it will be silby.


Grim

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Thursday, 13 May 2021 18:08 (two years ago) link

Board reads a lot better with Euler gone

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 13 May 2021 18:11 (two years ago) link

i shall challenge silby, when the time is right

https://i.imgur.com/Y6zEYYR.jpg

#onethread
#oneposter
#paymentforposting

parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Thursday, 13 May 2021 18:13 (two years ago) link

just what is that convincing spaniard planning to do to mark kozelek!?

If you value Vox, we have an axe (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 13 May 2021 18:16 (two years ago) link

had no idea of threads where Euler went islamophobic (makes sense given that he lived in france) mostly know him from math threads, always enjoyed his posts

flopson, Thursday, 13 May 2021 18:18 (two years ago) link

Connery: THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!
Kozelek: yesterday i went on a walk in the highlands / drove 40 km on the left side of the road / bought a soda at the pub / had a pint at the pub / went back outside and it was overcast and chilly and i wished for a better jacket / it was 5 celsius / i went back into the pub

parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Thursday, 13 May 2021 18:20 (two years ago) link

then i got on the lift and had some fish and chips

parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Thursday, 13 May 2021 18:21 (two years ago) link

evocative stuff! i can almost taste the fish, those chips, the immortality.

If you value Vox, we have an axe (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 13 May 2021 18:24 (two years ago) link

*kozelek wanders off into the lands, narrating his day to himself*

parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Thursday, 13 May 2021 18:25 (two years ago) link

mostly know him from math threads

oh wow, didn't realize he was that euler

the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Thursday, 13 May 2021 18:27 (two years ago) link

set their phasor to 'stun'

If you value Vox, we have an axe (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 13 May 2021 18:34 (two years ago) link

xpost anyone? Euler?

Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Thursday, 13 May 2021 19:11 (two years ago) link

we will have another "louie vs lewis" revelation here today

If you value Vox, we have an axe (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 13 May 2021 19:14 (two years ago) link

really would miss this supercilious prick like bleeding haemorrhoids if I'm going to be perfectly honest. But he'll be back, the suggestion that such a sturdy arrogant fucker was run off the board by small coterie of haters is absurd!

calzino, Thursday, 13 May 2021 19:26 (two years ago) link

hey, that's not right. some people don't even know they have haemorrhoids.

If you value Vox, we have an axe (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 13 May 2021 19:34 (two years ago) link

He simply killfiled everyone else and wonders why no-one is posting anymore.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 13 May 2021 19:35 (two years ago) link

tbh i'm surprised posters have such negative opinions of some of Euler's posting. i just can't square them, but maybe he could help. it's almost like there were two Eulers, one the opposite or inverse of the other. complex guy.

If you value Vox, we have an axe (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 13 May 2021 19:45 (two years ago) link

I imagine calz grinds his teeth in his sleep.

sharpening the contraindications (Aimless), Thursday, 13 May 2021 19:46 (two years ago) link

well that just reveals your own dearth of imagination and what a pathetic message board creature you are.

calzino, Thursday, 13 May 2021 19:50 (two years ago) link

our true natures cannot be hidden from sight for long, especially from such a penetrating eye as yours

sharpening the contraindications (Aimless), Thursday, 13 May 2021 19:53 (two years ago) link

i grind my teeth while awake

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 13 May 2021 19:55 (two years ago) link

I grind other people's teeth

Evan, Thursday, 13 May 2021 19:57 (two years ago) link

I’ve clashed heads with calz and even FPed him a few times but calz has never made any comments even 1/4 as disgraceful as Aimless’s in that thread, and the fact Aimless decided to complain about that thread in relation to completely the wrong user says it all. Calz might get a bit angry but he’s not out here posting conspiratorial stuff about Muslims taking over France being a legitimate concern, so Aimless, wind your neck in and stop embarrassing yourself, please.

Scamp Granada (gyac), Thursday, 13 May 2021 19:57 (two years ago) link

If you want a place to feel comfortable posting that or you feel like ilx is somehow lacking, you’ve got the entire rest of the internet.

Scamp Granada (gyac), Thursday, 13 May 2021 19:58 (two years ago) link

the penetrating eye has logged on

calzino, Thursday, 13 May 2021 20:00 (two years ago) link

If embarrassing myself were a deterrent to posting, I'd have quit ilx twenty years ago.

sharpening the contraindications (Aimless), Thursday, 13 May 2021 20:01 (two years ago) link

No time like the present.

Scamp Granada (gyac), Thursday, 13 May 2021 20:03 (two years ago) link

btw, I've never had the slightest concern that Muslims were taking over France, so it seems unlikely to me that I ever directly expressed such a concern. Could you clarify wtf you are referencing?

sharpening the contraindications (Aimless), Thursday, 13 May 2021 20:03 (two years ago) link

I presume you are not peeved when I make the assumption that (quoting myself) "racism, xenophobia and economic ghettoization are the real problems to address." Not having seen the Hebdo caricatures, I have to take your word that they constitute hate speech. Nor do I know how the teacher conducted the discussion about them. I have not read a description of how that lesson was taught, but have seen it asserted that the lesson being taught was within the curriculum.

My major assumption is that France needs to work much harder and more visibly on alleviating the real problems of economic stagnation within and xenophobia against muslim communities. That's pure justice. But I also consider that this act was not merely a blind lashing out, but a demonstration of intent and no society can afford to concede the legitimacy that intent, no matter how legitimate the grievance.

― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Tuesday, 20 October 2020 01:33 (six months ago) link


It's just a matter of whose culture gets to be "neutral."

That's an essentially accurate observation of an underlying truth and defining a problem is usually a basic step toward solving it. However, no matter which way I turn that truth, I can't see a solution falling out of it that resolves the essential conflict that rises out of fundamentally clashing cultural values. The particular Islamists who encouraged this crime do not want toleration or neutrality, but enough power to create a hegemony for their own religiously-inspired or religiously-justified ideas.

If it is their culture that gets to be 'neutral', then the result would be far harsher laws suppressing other cultural norms than the French laws against the display of religious symbols in public schools. Full and free expression of secular humanism would absolutely not be allowed. I don't see that outcome as preferable, according to my culturally hegemonic 'western' beliefs.

So, when it comes to whose culture is considered 'neutral' in this power struggle (because that is what the execution of the teacher was about), I am going to side with the French Republic over the Islamists who perpetrated this crime every time. At least the Republic allows avenues for the redress of wrongs and may conceivably arrive at a compromise solution amenable to the majority of muslims in France.

― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Monday, 19 October 2020 23:11 (six months ago) link

Aimless... the idea that there are enough pro-murder Muslims out there to enact some fanatical Islamic Republic in France is..... un peu bizarre, n'est-ce pas

― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 19 October 2020 23:16 (six months ago) link

Scamp Granada (gyac), Thursday, 13 May 2021 20:05 (two years ago) link

oh dear, boss won't like what I've done here at all.

If you value Vox, we have an axe (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 13 May 2021 20:10 (two years ago) link

I said it at the time but Islamophobia seems to be no biggie to a lot of people on ILX. Calzino swearing on the other hand.

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 May 2021 20:13 (two years ago) link

I do miss LBI tho

Pinefox reviews Reviews (wins), Thursday, 13 May 2021 20:17 (two years ago) link

Email him, I’m sure he’d love to hear from you :)

Scamp Granada (gyac), Thursday, 13 May 2021 20:17 (two years ago) link

yeah email him. unrelated, but would a pool noodle or dancing lessons better incentivize you to consider reaching out to a newly absent ilxor?

If you value Vox, we have an axe (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 13 May 2021 20:20 (two years ago) link

LOL Aimless went to all the trouble of dredging up a thread from last year in order to make some point or other about an ILXor being driven off the board by a baying mob - driven off very slowly, mind you, like 6 months later - and couldn't even get his name right!

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 May 2021 20:21 (two years ago) link

the penetrating eye

calzino, Thursday, 13 May 2021 20:22 (two years ago) link

Honestly, when gyac said Euler last posted in March, I thought, "Well, a year is a long time, after all, let bygones be bygones..." Little realizing it was March 2021!

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 May 2021 20:25 (two years ago) link

fyi, Euler was called an islamophobe on other unrelated threads more recently than 6 months ago

If you value Vox, we have an axe (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 13 May 2021 20:27 (two years ago) link

to get him to go away

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Thursday, 13 May 2021 20:27 (two years ago) link

I should think

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Thursday, 13 May 2021 20:27 (two years ago) link

well Aimless sure thought so, and then i posted some stuff about it as well. look just invite someone else to the board if you really badly want someone to leave. there's a pool noodle in it for you.

If you value Vox, we have an axe (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 13 May 2021 20:30 (two years ago) link

or possibly dance lessons

If you value Vox, we have an axe (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 13 May 2021 20:30 (two years ago) link

which one excited you more, silby? (feel free to expand on why)

If you value Vox, we have an axe (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 13 May 2021 20:31 (two years ago) link

The particular Islamists who encouraged this crime do not want toleration or neutrality, but enough power to create a hegemony for their own religiously-inspired or religiously-justified ideas.

You mean you genuinely cannot distinguish between my stating what a very small group of fanatics ardently desires, and my stating that they might accomplish it? You can argue that I am wrong and that no such desire exists anywhere in any tiny fraction of the Muslims resident in France. You cannot use that quote to argue that it establishes I was afraid of their fulfilling that desire. I can tell you, that was not my thought or my meaning and it wasn't contained in what I said.

I've had too many of these arguments in the past thirty years. But no one ever backtracks on their misreadings. They locate the meaning they infer as being plainly implied, even when it isn't. If you can say something other than mislabeling, misreading, mischaracterizing, or invective, I'll consider responding further.

sharpening the contraindications (Aimless), Thursday, 13 May 2021 20:41 (two years ago) link

“pick up the gun, gyac”

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 13 May 2021 20:45 (two years ago) link

I'll consider responding further.

― sharpening the contraindications (Aimless)

no don't throw me into the briar patch

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Thursday, 13 May 2021 20:48 (two years ago) link

xxp don’t bother, you can fucking keep it.

Scamp Granada (gyac), Thursday, 13 May 2021 20:51 (two years ago) link

aimless i’m pretty sure we can all read and interpret your posts just fine. have a think about what’s being said.

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 13 May 2021 20:54 (two years ago) link

You lot done shitting up yet another unrelated thread with your tiresome beefs with each other? No?

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 13 May 2021 21:19 (two years ago) link

tiresome? this thread's drama made about 2 hours go by much quicker for me today.

John Cooper of Christian rock band Skillet (map), Thursday, 13 May 2021 21:21 (two years ago) link


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