Israel to World: "Suck It."

https://jewishcurrents.org/road-to-nowhere/

BBC News have played a clip of an Israeli man calling for the government to wipe out Gaza. I thought I had misheard when they played it earlier this evening but no, that’s exactly what he said. And they’ve aired it again.

— Marxcelo Bielsa (@judeinlondon2) May 13, 2021

the electricity all over Gaza is being cut off, people are fleeing their homes barefoot, and the airstrikes have been hitting the region non stop for 5+ minutes. this is a Massacre. #GazaUnderAttack

— س (@paIestiine) May 13, 2021

fwiw, this is how WashPo is reporting the electricity situation: "In Gaza, damage to power lines cut daily electricity in some parts of the enclave to around three hours."

there are a lot of things in the year of our Lord 2021 that make me feel insane but watching The Adults explain this away is at the top of the heap atm

it's fucking insane that this is just happening and so many are ok with it

Ministry of Health in Gaza: 109 martyrs until the moment, 28 of them are children and 15 women. 621 injuries #GazaUnderAttack

— Aya Isleem 🇵🇸 #Gaza (@AyaIsleemEn) May 13, 2021

colonial powers are ok with this because they created this and the question of its legitimacy is also their own

Israel continually dares the USA and European nations to make it a pariah state and those nations reflexively flinch away from that. The fact that Israel holds elections which endorse governments who follow these policies does not make those policies less criminal. Nothing North Korea has done to date is objectively worse than what Israel has done and continues to do.

I want to fucking cry.

a friend from tel aviv tells me that the most insane, rabid settlers are usually american, and somehow this is never a surprise

Israel continually dares the USA and European nations to make it a pariah state and those nations reflexively flinch away from that. The fact that Israel holds elections which endorse governments who follow these policies does not make those policies less criminal. Nothing North Korea has done to date is objectively worse than what Israel has done and continues to do.

― sharpening the contraindications (Aimless), Thursday, May 13, 2021 7:45 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

The Saudis are destroying Yemen, China are in the midst of perpetrating a genocide and providing cover for the destruction of another ethnicity in Burma, no one in the US bats an eyelash for the treatment of the Kashmiris in India, etc. The standard for the pariah state doesn't exist and have never existed if the interests of the US and European align.

European nations align*

yes. i feel like there have been at least a pro forma sentence or two in US official statements about those though? maybe i’m deluding myself. but biden feels like he’s simply taking sides with israel in a more complete way than i can remember an actual non-Trump administration do. there was at least the pretension of being an honest broker before so as to play a part in some putative peace process.

Watch @AbbyMartin interview Israelis in West Jerusalem.

It's not just ultra-religious, extremist settlers who use the language of genocide against Palestinians.

[Full video: https://t.co/1iAzEWzB2g] pic.twitter.com/HS2s0Shfj4

— The Empire Files (@EmpireFiles) May 14, 2021

V hard to see how this is turned around. So grim.

1/
A thread about Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu's interest in the current escalation of violence

— Shiri Eisner 💖💜💙 (@ShiriEisner) May 14, 2021

I don't buy that analysis (the "wag the dog") theory. I mean sure, Bibi benefits from military aggression, but this follows a pattern that I feel like I've seen under multiple administrations, which is that settlement expansion goes on quietly until there is some provocation that escalates sufficiently, at which point hamas will fire rockets and Israel will call in airstrikes and sometimes more. Hamas sees this as an opportunity to make the world pay attention again when they have stopped paying attention, and Israel sees it as a short window to cripple Hamas, but neither really benefits from it continuing for very long and it dies down again after a few weeks or so.

I extremely buy that and also wag the dog

yes. i feel like there have been at least a pro forma sentence or two in US official statements about those though? maybe i’m deluding myself. but biden feels like he’s simply taking sides with israel in a more complete way than i can remember an actual non-Trump administration do. there was at least the pretension of being an honest broker before so as to play a part in some putative peace process.

In some senses this is pretty insignificant compared to what's going on right now, but it touches my life (as the American spouse/parent in such a couple) and speaks to the increasing effort by Israel to create a "with us or against us" mentality - and, in fact, it's hard for me to see any other purpose to this extremely bizarre law. Basically this means that my kids can't see much of their extended family unless they get Israeli passports. However, I don't want them to get Israeli passports, so some difficult family conversations are coming. Personally I'll shed no tears if I never set foot in that country again (and honestly how bout they visit us for once if it's so fucking important?!), but it's not an easy thing to confront.

https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/israelis-abroad-angered-by-new-forced-passports-for-their-children-667402

THAT HAPPENED TONIGHT IN JERUSALEM: hundreds of Jews and Arabs were STANDING TOGETHER against the violence and the occupation, and for an immediate ceasefire. Next to Jerusalem, @omdimbeyachad
Organised dosends of other rallies.

This is how hope looks like in such dark days. pic.twitter.com/Cx81M7V3mT

— Alon-Lee Green - ألون-لي جرين - אלון-לי גרין (@AlonLeeGreen) May 13, 2021

I don't buy that analysis (the "wag the dog") theory. I mean sure, Bibi benefits from military aggression, but this follows a pattern that I feel like I've seen under multiple administrations, which is that settlement expansion goes on quietly until there is some provocation that escalates sufficiently, at which point hamas will fire rockets and Israel will call in airstrikes and sometimes more

likud has a pattern of intentional provocation at times politically beneficial to them, dating at the very least back to ariel sharon and the second intifada

One Road

أُريــــِـــدُ بــُـــنــْـــدُقــِــــيـــّـــة

I need a rifle

خــَــاتــَـــمُ أُمــّــي ، بــِــعــْـــتــُــهُ

The ring of my Mum I sold

مــِــنْ أَجــْــلِ بــُــنــْــدُقــِــيــّـــة

For a rifle

مـِــحــْــفــَـــظــَـــتــِـــي رَهــَــنــْــتــُــهــَــا

My wallet I mortgaged

مـِــنْ أَجــْــلِ بــُــنــْــدُقــِــيــّـــة

For a rifle

الـلــُّــغــَــةُ الـتـي بــِــهــَــا دَرَســْــنــَــا

The language with which we studied

الــكــُــتــُـــبُ الـتـي بــِــهــَــا قــَــرَأنــَــا

The books in which we read,

قــَــصــَـــائـِــدُ الـشـِّــعــْـــرِ الـتـي حــَــفــِــظــْــنــَــا

The poems which we learned

لــَــيــْــســَـــتْ تــُــســَـــاوي دِرْهــَــمــَــاً

Are not worth a dirham

أَمــَــامَ بــُــنــْــدُقــِــيــّـــة

In front of a rifle

أصــْــبــَــحَ عـِــنــْــدِي الآنَ بــُــنــْــدُقــِــيــّـــة

Now, that I have a rifle

إلــى فــَــلــَـــســْــطــِــيـنَ خــُــذُونــِــي مـَــعــَــكــُــم

To Palestine, take me with you

إلــى رُبــَــىً حــَــزيــنــَــةٍ كــَــوَجــْـــهِ مــَــجــْــدَلــِـــيـــَّــه

To sad hills like the face of a Magadalan (woman)

إلــى الــقــِـــبــَــابِ الـخــُـــضــْـــرِ .. والـحــِــجــَـــارَةِ الــنــَّــبــِـــيــَّــه

To the green domes .. and nimble stones

عــِــشــْــرونَ عــَــامــَــاً .. وأنــَــا

Twenty years .. and I

أبــْــحــَـــثُ عــَــنْ أرْضٍ وعــَــنْ هــَـــويــَّـــه

Have been searching for a land and identity

أبــْــحــَــثُ عــَــنْ بــَــيــْــتــِــي الـذي هــُــنــَــاكَ

Searching for my home that is there

عــَــنْ وَطــَــنــِــي الــمــُــحــَـــاطِ بـــِــالأســْــــلاك

For my homeland that is sieged with wires

أبــْــحــَـــثُ عــَــنْ طــُـــفــُــولــَــتــِــي

Searching for my childhood

وعــَــنْ رِفــَـــاقِ حــَــارَتــِــي

And for my neighborhood companions

عــَــنْ كــُـــتــُــبــِــي .. عــَــنْ صــُـــوَرِي

For my books .. my photos

عــَـــنْ كــُـــلّ رُكــْــنٍ دَافــِــئٍ .. وكــُــلِّ مــِــزهــَـــريــّـــه

For every warm corner .. and for every vase

أصــْــبــَــحَ عـِــنــْــدِي الآنَ بــُــنــْــدُقــِــيــّـــة

Now, that I have a rifle

إلــى فــَــلــَـــســْــطــِــيـنَ خــُــذُونــِــي مـَــعــَــكــُــم

To Palestine, take me with you

يــَــا أيــُّــهــَــا الــرِّجــَـــال

O, fellow men

أريـــدُ أنْ أعــِـــيشَ .. أوْ أمــُـــوتَ كــَــالــرِّجــَـــال

I want to live .. or die .. as a man

أريـــدُ .. أنْ أنــْـــبــِــتَ فــِـي تــُـــرَابــِــهــَـــا

I want to sow in its dust

زَيــْـــتــُــونــَــةً ، أوْ حــَــقــْـــلَ بــُــرْتــُـــقــَـــال

An olive or an orange farm

أوْ زَهــْـــرَةً شــَـــذِيــَّـــه

Or a scented rose

قــُــولــُـــوا .. لـِــمــَــنْ يــَــســْــألُ عــَــنْ قــَــضــِــيــّــتــِــي

Tell .. whoever asks about my problem

بــَــارُودَتــِــي .. صــَــارَتْ هــِــي الــقـــَـــضــِــيــَّـــه

That my bullet .. has become the problem

أَصــْــبــَــحَ عـِــنــْــدِي الآنَ بــُــنــْــدُقــِــيــّـــة

Now, that I have a rifle,

أصــْــبــَــحــْـــتُ فــِــي قــَـــائـِــمـَــةِ الــثــُّــــوَّار

I have been enlisted as a revolutionist

أفــْـــتـــَـــرشُ الأشــْـــوَاكَ والــغــُـــبــَــار

I sit on thorns and dust

وألــْــبــَــسُ الــمــَـــنــِـــيــَّـــه

And I dress in death

مــَــشــِـــيــئــَـــةُ الأقــْـــدارِ لا تــَــرُدُّنــِــي

The will of fate cannot stop me

أنــَــا الــذي أغــَـــيــّـــرُ الأقــْـــدار

I am the one who changes fate

يــَــا أيــّــهــَـــا الــثـــُّـــوّار

O, fellow revolutionists

فــِــي الــقــُـــدْسِ ، فــِـي الـخــَــلــِــيــلِ

In Jerusalem .. in Al-Khalil (Hebron)

فـِـي بــيــســَــانَ ، فــِـي الأغــْــوَار

In Bisan .. in the Jordan Valley

فــِــي بــَــيــْـــتِ لــَــحــِـــمٍ .. حــَــيــْــثُ كــُــنــْـــتــُــمْ أيــُّــهــَــا الأحــْـــرَار

In Bethlehem .. wherever you are, free men!

تــَـــقـــَـــدَّمــُـــوا

Proceed

تــَـــقـــَـــدَّمــُـــوا

Proceed

فــَــقــِـــصــَّـــةُ الــســَّـــلام .. مــَــســْـــرَحــِـــيــَّــه

For the story or peace .. is a play

والــعــَــدلُ .. مــَــســْــرَحــِــيــَّــه

And Justice .. is a play

إلى فــَــلــســْــطــِــيــنَ طــَــريـــقٌ وَاحــِــدٌ

To Palestine, there is only one road

يــَــمــُـــرُّ مــِــنْ فــُــوَّهــَــةِ بــُــنــْـــدُقــِـــيــَّــه

That passes through the mouth of a rifle.

Brillant larping!

No wonder antisemitic crimes are on the rise.

If this war hadn't taken place, someone else would have been PM by now. And the attack on the worshippers at the Al-Aqsa mosque had no rationale except for being a deliberate attempt to provoke violence.

Responding to these odious provocations with further provocations has not worked for palestinian authorities nor it has worked for the palestinian peoples. Nethanyahu is not that smart, but it might turn out that Hamas is that dumb, and online larpers even worse.

likud has a pattern of intentional provocation at times politically beneficial to them, dating at the very least back to ariel sharon and the second intifada

― the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Friday, May 14, 2021 3:26 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

My former roommate wrote about this a few years ago:
Before the invasion of Lebanon in 1982, military correspondent Amir Oren reported, an officer who served under Dagan “claimed that on orders from the IDF, under cover of the Front for the Liberation of Lebanon from Foreigners, deadly strikes were being carried out against Palestinian targets, and the casualties included innocent civilians.” That anonymous complaint “reached the press,” he said, “and from there – even though the military censor forbade publication – it reached Begin.”

The complaint named four senior Israeli officials: Raphael Eitan, the IDF Chief of Staff; Meir Dagan, the commander of the South Lebanon Region; head of Northern Command Avigdor Ben-Gal; and Shlomo Ilya, an intelligence officer. Yehoshua Saguy, the head of Military Intelligence, looked into the allegations and concluded that they were accurate. His complaint led nowhere however: according to Oren, Prime Minister Menachem Begin “didn’t want to believe it, especially on the eve of an election.”

The dispossession of land and destruction of housing, no clean water or employment = provocations!

I’m talking about the storming of Al-Aqsa and the evictions in Sheikh Jarrah which prompted Hamas launching of missiles on civilians and civilian infrastructure.

I’m talking about the storming of Al-Aqsa and the evictions in Sheikh Jarrah which prompted Hamas launching of missiles on civilians and civilian infrastructure.

― Van Horn Street, Friday, 14 May 2021 bookmarkflaglink

Fixed it for you

Congrats dude you resolved the situation.

Only Nethanyahu thugs would make arguments that storming a sacred space during one of the holiest celebrations isn’t provocation... and sure enough Hamas responded ~exactly to this particular event as opposed to 3 months ago when occupation was on-going just as much as it is today, but any bedfellow is okay to sleep with as long as you get to live your activist fantasy online.

Then please go to Gaza, brave keyboard warrior

— Yitzak Ben Aaron (@yitzak_ben) May 14, 2021

there is apparently no conceivable level of resistance and self defence here that both-sidesers will accept. keyboard pacifists are at least as bad as keyboard warriors

When that 'self-defence' has done nothing to concretely help Palestinian people, and the perpetrators are bent on genocidal ideas, are the moral equivalent of Boko Haram and ISIS, and is the arm of a foreign agressive state 2000 km away, then no I do not think it's acceptable, nor do I believe it is to be self-defence. The Israeli government and the IDF being as dangerous, racist and extremist as Hamas doesn't justify anything. But sure align yourself with organisations that kills homosexuals, the story absolutely needs you to choose a good guy and a bad guy, after all it's entertainment for keyboard warriors like yourself.

VHS no one here is 'aligning themselves' with Hamas that I can see.

True, there is just justifications of their actions and militant chants that call for the killing of Israelis.

You've used your keyboard more than anyone tonight.

shocking that the poster who’s a flagrant ass on the Venezuela thread has some Very Serious Thoughts on this thread too

Ah yes that time I argued that Maduro’s governement was a brutal regime that ought to never exist anymore. How terrible of me.

lol VHS when comrade alphabet called out your soft-pedalling of the murder at the Al-Aqsa mosque as 'provocation' - obviously saying that word isn't harsh enough - you pretended that he meant the IDF's action didn't RISE to the level of provocation - 'aligning' him with Netanyahu thugs! Why?? Actually forget it, I don't care. People are hurting on this thread, trying to understand. Nobody's holding up Hamas as some exemplar of political morality. Get off your high horse man.

Azza Slimene is a US-based Tunisian super model. She has 1.4 million followers on Instagram. Yesterday she invited a Palestinian man from Gaza to talk about the situation there. Today this happened. pic.twitter.com/389z9ThMlB

— Rania Said (@rania_tn) May 14, 2021

lol VHS when comrade alphabet called out your soft-pedalling of the murder at the Al-Aqsa mosque as 'provocation' - obviously saying that word isn't harsh enough - you pretended that he meant the IDF's action didn't RISE to the level of provocation - 'aligning' him with Netanyahu thugs! Why?? Actually forget it, I don't care. People are hurting on this thread, trying to understand. Nobody's holding up Hamas as some exemplar of political morality. Get off your high horse man.

― Tracer Hand, Friday, May 14, 2021 6:41 PM (twenty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Well surely if no one is defending Hamas' actions I can continue criticizing their poor treatment of Palestinian peoples and their strategy towards Israel.

I am not the only one, on ilxor and elsewhere, that have used the word 'provocation' to describe the actions by Netanyahu. Do I believe these provocations are aligning with a genocidal desire to erase the Palestinian territories? Absolutely I do. I am just making the case that Hamas responded to that event specifically (and the expulsions from Sheikh Jarrah) when it decided to launch hundreds of rockets into Israel.

Noted!

fuck hamas but they are not isis or boko haram ffs

I am just making the case that Hamas responded to that event specifically (and the expulsions from Sheikh Jarrah) when it decided to launch hundreds of rockets into Israel.

― Van Horn Street, Friday, 14 May 2021 bookmarkflaglink

How should Palestinians respond to this?

why don't they suggest some kind of boycott or stage a non-violent protest at the border or something who could object to that

I don’t think this avenue is particularly useful. It’s not up to Palestinians to fix the situation. They’ve done everything they can and been crushed. VHS as I read him was asserting that the rockets were specifically in retaliation for Al Aqsa rather than anything before, or a cumulative response. I’m not sure why that’s an important distinction. Surely it could be, and almost certainly is, both.