2021 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Nominees POLL

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It's a shame Fela didn't get in, but I'm not terribly surprised. Foo Fighters was a band custom built to appeal to RRHOF voters, so that's no surprise.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 13:49 (two years ago) link

I forgot that Smear wasn't included with Nirvana.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 13:51 (two years ago) link

Foo Fighters : Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame :: H.E.R. : Grammys

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 13:54 (two years ago) link

Jay-Z also kind of the perfect hip hop star for RRHOF.

o. nate, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 13:58 (two years ago) link

For me, the Foo Fighters are silly, but a friend made me somewhat more receptive to the idea that there's a case there (all those extra words are code for "For me, the Foo Fighters are silly). I also consider the Go-Go's kind of weak.

And as Greil Marcus chimes in every year, what about the Shangri-Las?

clemenza, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:02 (two years ago) link

he's so known as public/business figure there are probably people who voted for him that don't know his music

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:03 (two years ago) link

I've only heard maybe three Foo Fighters songs in my life. All three were perfectly competent, big-catchy-chorus pop-rock. But shouldn't there be more to a "Hall of Fame" act than "perfectly competent"?

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:06 (two years ago) link

Exactly how I'd put it. I always draw baseball analogies: it'd be like putting steady, competent Tom Candiotti in the HOF. (And even if Tom Candiotti were really popular and a super-nice guy, should that make a difference?)

clemenza, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:10 (two years ago) link

think about Foo Fighters getting in before Soundgarden

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:12 (two years ago) link

Winner of a popularity contest happens to be a likeable dude, pundits shocked.

Siegbran, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:12 (two years ago) link

Except you guys keep ignoring the fact that the RRHOF is also somewhat of a popularity contest and branding extension - mediocre or not, the Foo Fighters have maintained a really high level of popularity for 25 years now and continue to notch up Grammys and #1 rock radio songs, plus Grohl is great at inserting himself into the "rock and roll history ambassador" role he loves so much.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:13 (two years ago) link

I don't know if this has historically been a popularity contest, though...I think you could find a lot of exceptions to that.

clemenza, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:14 (two years ago) link

"rock and roll history ambassador"

I agree, that's the biggest factor. One day, Paul Shaffer will be inducted.

clemenza, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:16 (two years ago) link

xpost - Exceptions sure, but c'mon, the RRHOF is a huge popularity contest.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:16 (two years ago) link

I don't know if this has historically been a popularity contest, though...I think you could find a lot of exceptions to that.

There was a greater tolerance for/embrace of weirdos from previous generations for sure. The "modern" acts that get inducted are much more complacent, "safe" representatives of their generation — Green Day and Foo Fighters yes, Jane's Addiction never.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:17 (two years ago) link

Don't get me wrong, there are easily 3 dozen artists/bands nominated that deserve induction before the Foos, not defending them, but they were the easiest to predict shoe-in in years.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:17 (two years ago) link

I don't know where I'd draw the line--1960? 1970? later?--but there's a line in there where on one side 97% of the picks make perfect sense to me, and on the other side, I'm lost when it comes to who belongs and who doesn't.

clemenza, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:22 (two years ago) link

OH MY GOD THE ROCK N ROLL HALL OF FAME IS A POPULARITY CONTEST AND MARKETING DRIVEN
*passes out*

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:26 (two years ago) link

Those 70s weirdos were commercially huge, much more so than Jane’s Addiction etc.

Siegbran, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:26 (two years ago) link

Foo Fighters, the Harold Baines of HOF inductees?

Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:28 (two years ago) link

(xpost) But clearly Todd Rundgren isn't there because of his popularity and/or marketing prowess. I completely agree that that statement applies in some, maybe the majority of cases. But it's not always the guiding consideration.

clemenza, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:31 (two years ago) link

Those 70s weirdos were commercially huge, much more so than Jane’s Addiction etc.

Their record sales aside, Jane's Addiction were a massive cultural force just by virtue of, you know, starting Lollapalooza.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:32 (two years ago) link

Sure, Rundgren isn't super popular, but he's also a lifer that has a good rep among rock writers of a certain generation so, again, not that surprising.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:33 (two years ago) link

I've always been baffled at the Go-Gos being considered a major band. Are they considered very influential?

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:34 (two years ago) link

I mean, they literally "got the beat".

Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:35 (two years ago) link

But clearly Todd Rundgren isn't there because of his popularity and/or marketing prowess

didn't todd rundgren produce bat out of hell?

the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:35 (two years ago) link

I love the Go-Gos unreservedly and will do so forever, but you do you

That said: why do you hate fun?

cardio free europe (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:36 (two years ago) link

FWIW, the HOF website's copy for Foo Fighters literally begins: "Foo Fighters carry the torch of rock authenticity..."

avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:36 (two years ago) link

dad-rock authenticity

Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:37 (two years ago) link

didn't todd rundgren produce bat out of hell?

Probably a strike against him in the eyes of many critic voters.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:38 (two years ago) link

I've always been baffled at the Go-Gos being considered a major band. Are they considered very influential?

Yes, to a number of female artists of a certain age/generation in particular. Also: Beauty and The Beat was one of the main albums to pull New Wave into the mainstream.

blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:40 (two years ago) link

Huh

The inclusion of Turner, King and The Go-Go's makes it the first time three female artists have been inducted in the Performers category in a single class.

Coffee Bean & Tea Leaf (CBTL) stan (morrisp), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:40 (two years ago) link

Re: Foo Fighters: no other band has done as much work to combat Foo.

Some artists have either been apathetic in the struggle against Foo. Some have even actively supported Foo.

cardio free europe (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:41 (two years ago) link

they were the easiest to predict shoe-in in years.

i'm no fan of the foo, but this is otm. at a certain point, you have to induct the popularly-beloved war horses. this is all basically an advertisement for a museum that people buy tickets to go visit.

the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:41 (two years ago) link

The Go-Go's three albums >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Foo Fighters' discography

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:42 (two years ago) link

didn't todd rundgren produce bat out of hell?

He was inducted as a performer, though, tbf. In the US, he had one gold album and one top 10 hit, with 8 songs making the hot 100 altogether. For comparison, Jane's Addiction had three gold albums, one platinum, and one double-platinum album.

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:43 (two years ago) link

Jane's Addiction has a platinum (Nothing's Shocking) 2X Platinum (Ritual) and Gold record (Strays)

Rundgren only has one Gold album in his entire career (Something/Anything) nothing else

Go-Gos have one 2X and one Gold

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:44 (two years ago) link

ah shit sund4r

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:44 (two years ago) link

Foo Fighters fail for not having a Greatest Hits album called "Best of Foo"

Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:44 (two years ago) link

Oh one of those golds is for a video, oops. One also a comp. xp lol

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:45 (two years ago) link

Soundgarden has Gold, 2XP, 5XP, 2XP

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:45 (two years ago) link

"the torch of rock authenticity"

My new favourite phrase ever! I picture something like the Olympics, and Bob Seger passes it to Huey Lewis who passes it to Dave Matthews who passes it to Dave Grohl.

clemenza, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:47 (two years ago) link

careful of what's in that torch if Dave Matthews is passing it to u

Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:48 (two years ago) link

The Go-Go's three albums >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Foo Fighters' discography

― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, May 12, 2021 10:42 AM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Al otm. The Foos never did anything remotely as thrilling as "Head Over Heels."

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:48 (two years ago) link

yeah for sure

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:49 (two years ago) link

tarfumes otm

cardio free europe (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:49 (two years ago) link

lmao at that Foos "torch" quote. the best thing about them is how when they would be on Letterman he would always make jokes about how much they hate foo

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:52 (two years ago) link

hell, "Heaven is a Place on Earth" >>>>> Foo Fighters discography

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:52 (two years ago) link

nah "My Hero", "Monkey Wrench" are better

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:53 (two years ago) link

idk i think the foos have basically been coasting off the greatness of everlong for about 25 years

the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:54 (two years ago) link


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