I wish they'd just stop nominating Chaka at this point. It's just getting cruel.
― avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 12:47 (two years ago) link
I misread and thought the Dolls had gotten in and was going to say Little Richard was turning over in his... SHUT UP!
― Working in the POLL Mine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 12:52 (two years ago) link
man that Buster Poindexter clip on Carson is a hoot ("tout suite").
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 13:22 (two years ago) link
TWO GERMS IN THE HALL!
― blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 13:44 (two years ago) link
It's a shame Fela didn't get in, but I'm not terribly surprised. Foo Fighters was a band custom built to appeal to RRHOF voters, so that's no surprise.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 13:49 (two years ago) link
I forgot that Smear wasn't included with Nirvana.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 13:51 (two years ago) link
Foo Fighters : Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame :: H.E.R. : Grammys
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 13:54 (two years ago) link
Jay-Z also kind of the perfect hip hop star for RRHOF.
― o. nate, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 13:58 (two years ago) link
For me, the Foo Fighters are silly, but a friend made me somewhat more receptive to the idea that there's a case there (all those extra words are code for "For me, the Foo Fighters are silly). I also consider the Go-Go's kind of weak.
And as Greil Marcus chimes in every year, what about the Shangri-Las?
― clemenza, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:02 (two years ago) link
he's so known as public/business figure there are probably people who voted for him that don't know his music
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:03 (two years ago) link
I've only heard maybe three Foo Fighters songs in my life. All three were perfectly competent, big-catchy-chorus pop-rock. But shouldn't there be more to a "Hall of Fame" act than "perfectly competent"?
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:06 (two years ago) link
Exactly how I'd put it. I always draw baseball analogies: it'd be like putting steady, competent Tom Candiotti in the HOF. (And even if Tom Candiotti were really popular and a super-nice guy, should that make a difference?)
― clemenza, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:10 (two years ago) link
think about Foo Fighters getting in before Soundgarden
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:12 (two years ago) link
Winner of a popularity contest happens to be a likeable dude, pundits shocked.
― Siegbran, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:12 (two years ago) link
Except you guys keep ignoring the fact that the RRHOF is also somewhat of a popularity contest and branding extension - mediocre or not, the Foo Fighters have maintained a really high level of popularity for 25 years now and continue to notch up Grammys and #1 rock radio songs, plus Grohl is great at inserting himself into the "rock and roll history ambassador" role he loves so much.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:13 (two years ago) link
I don't know if this has historically been a popularity contest, though...I think you could find a lot of exceptions to that.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:14 (two years ago) link
"rock and roll history ambassador"
I agree, that's the biggest factor. One day, Paul Shaffer will be inducted.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:16 (two years ago) link
xpost - Exceptions sure, but c'mon, the RRHOF is a huge popularity contest.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:16 (two years ago) link
There was a greater tolerance for/embrace of weirdos from previous generations for sure. The "modern" acts that get inducted are much more complacent, "safe" representatives of their generation — Green Day and Foo Fighters yes, Jane's Addiction never.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:17 (two years ago) link
Don't get me wrong, there are easily 3 dozen artists/bands nominated that deserve induction before the Foos, not defending them, but they were the easiest to predict shoe-in in years.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:17 (two years ago) link
I don't know where I'd draw the line--1960? 1970? later?--but there's a line in there where on one side 97% of the picks make perfect sense to me, and on the other side, I'm lost when it comes to who belongs and who doesn't.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:22 (two years ago) link
OH MY GOD THE ROCK N ROLL HALL OF FAME IS A POPULARITY CONTEST AND MARKETING DRIVEN *passes out*
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:26 (two years ago) link
Those 70s weirdos were commercially huge, much more so than Jane’s Addiction etc.
― Siegbran, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:26 (two years ago) link
Foo Fighters, the Harold Baines of HOF inductees?
― Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:28 (two years ago) link
(xpost) But clearly Todd Rundgren isn't there because of his popularity and/or marketing prowess. I completely agree that that statement applies in some, maybe the majority of cases. But it's not always the guiding consideration.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:31 (two years ago) link
Their record sales aside, Jane's Addiction were a massive cultural force just by virtue of, you know, starting Lollapalooza.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:32 (two years ago) link
Sure, Rundgren isn't super popular, but he's also a lifer that has a good rep among rock writers of a certain generation so, again, not that surprising.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:33 (two years ago) link
I've always been baffled at the Go-Gos being considered a major band. Are they considered very influential?
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:34 (two years ago) link
I mean, they literally "got the beat".
― Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:35 (two years ago) link
But clearly Todd Rundgren isn't there because of his popularity and/or marketing prowess
didn't todd rundgren produce bat out of hell?
― the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:35 (two years ago) link
I love the Go-Gos unreservedly and will do so forever, but you do you
That said: why do you hate fun?
― cardio free europe (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:36 (two years ago) link
FWIW, the HOF website's copy for Foo Fighters literally begins: "Foo Fighters carry the torch of rock authenticity..."
― avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:36 (two years ago) link
dad-rock authenticity
― Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:37 (two years ago) link
Probably a strike against him in the eyes of many critic voters.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:38 (two years ago) link
Yes, to a number of female artists of a certain age/generation in particular. Also: Beauty and The Beat was one of the main albums to pull New Wave into the mainstream.
― blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:40 (two years ago) link
Huh
The inclusion of Turner, King and The Go-Go's makes it the first time three female artists have been inducted in the Performers category in a single class.
― Coffee Bean & Tea Leaf (CBTL) stan (morrisp), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:40 (two years ago) link
Re: Foo Fighters: no other band has done as much work to combat Foo.
Some artists have either been apathetic in the struggle against Foo. Some have even actively supported Foo.
― cardio free europe (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:41 (two years ago) link
they were the easiest to predict shoe-in in years.
i'm no fan of the foo, but this is otm. at a certain point, you have to induct the popularly-beloved war horses. this is all basically an advertisement for a museum that people buy tickets to go visit.
― the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:41 (two years ago) link
The Go-Go's three albums >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Foo Fighters' discography
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:42 (two years ago) link
He was inducted as a performer, though, tbf. In the US, he had one gold album and one top 10 hit, with 8 songs making the hot 100 altogether. For comparison, Jane's Addiction had three gold albums, one platinum, and one double-platinum album.
― Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:43 (two years ago) link
Jane's Addiction has a platinum (Nothing's Shocking) 2X Platinum (Ritual) and Gold record (Strays)
Rundgren only has one Gold album in his entire career (Something/Anything) nothing else
Go-Gos have one 2X and one Gold
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:44 (two years ago) link
ah shit sund4r
Foo Fighters fail for not having a Greatest Hits album called "Best of Foo"
― Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:44 (two years ago) link
Oh one of those golds is for a video, oops. One also a comp. xp lol
― Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:45 (two years ago) link
Soundgarden has Gold, 2XP, 5XP, 2XP
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:45 (two years ago) link
"the torch of rock authenticity"
My new favourite phrase ever! I picture something like the Olympics, and Bob Seger passes it to Huey Lewis who passes it to Dave Matthews who passes it to Dave Grohl.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:47 (two years ago) link
careful of what's in that torch if Dave Matthews is passing it to u
― Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:48 (two years ago) link
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, May 12, 2021 10:42 AM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Al otm. The Foos never did anything remotely as thrilling as "Head Over Heels."
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:48 (two years ago) link
yeah for sure
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:49 (two years ago) link
tarfumes otm
― cardio free europe (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 14:49 (two years ago) link