"we'll change the things that need changing and that's all we'll change": the paSUKification of post-brexit politics 2021

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Confusion over whether Angela Rayner maintains control over party matters, senior to chair and NCC – allies say yes, sources close to leadership say that's wrong.

— Sienna Rodgers (@siennamarla) May 9, 2021

Jobs Jobs jobs

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 May 2021 21:28 (two years ago) link

The shitposters know

almost feel sorry for her, don't think she's realised that she's a sacrificial lamb warming the seat for Rachel Reeves

— Dr. Professor Sir Bane QC KCB MP (@BaneNook) July 8, 2020

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 9 May 2021 21:40 (two years ago) link

if you've not being getting your Rachel Reeves 5 a day and feel like she has been underexposed, well don't you worry no more

calzino, Sunday, 9 May 2021 21:42 (two years ago) link

.@LucyMPowell — Labours new shadow housing secretary — is... a landlord.

— Greater Manchester Housing Action (@gmhousingaction) May 9, 2021

calzino, Sunday, 9 May 2021 21:49 (two years ago) link

I'm going to enjoy watching this party die an ignominious death even more now, especially as it seems to be happening much faster than I thought it would under Starmer

calzino, Sunday, 9 May 2021 21:53 (two years ago) link

"respectable working class" was an expression Mandy used earlier. I haven't got a clue what he means!

he means white

One Of The Bad Guys (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 9 May 2021 22:06 (two years ago) link

work and jobs eh? never the twain should meet.

calzino, Sunday, 9 May 2021 22:09 (two years ago) link

xp I know I know, just feigning ignorance for the sake of a post.

calzino, Sunday, 9 May 2021 22:12 (two years ago) link

it seems to be happening much faster than I thought it would under Starmer

thank the lord no one stabbed him

mark s, Sunday, 9 May 2021 22:16 (two years ago) link

heh sorry calz should have realised

One Of The Bad Guys (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 9 May 2021 22:17 (two years ago) link

Just constantly great work, you hardly even notice pic.twitter.com/HuUjLsHAFT

— Stefan Bielik (@prstskrzkrk) May 9, 2021

I bet Angela felt like strangling the little fucker after every painstakingly over elaborate photo shoot with him!

calzino, Sunday, 9 May 2021 22:27 (two years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E0-GGiDWEAMTi0c?format=jpg&name=large

this one being the most egregious example!

calzino, Sunday, 9 May 2021 22:31 (two years ago) link

ftr I'm not classically tall & a little bit short of 6 foot myself and shrinking - not being heightist here - just sticking it to this bleedin' Bonaparte!

calzino, Sunday, 9 May 2021 22:44 (two years ago) link

I almost feel curious now to check if Burnham does the same thing!

calzino, Sunday, 9 May 2021 22:51 (two years ago) link

christ no he's much taller than Kieth!

calzino, Sunday, 9 May 2021 22:54 (two years ago) link

It's fucking sick really, like they'd go to all sorts of excruciating lengths to cover up FDR's disability, and in that era it probably was politically important to do this. But the least of Kieth's problems is that he's 5'6 and his former deputy leader is taller and hotter than him!

calzino, Sunday, 9 May 2021 22:59 (two years ago) link

Every single time I see Zarah Sultana say anything, it’s always the exact right thing to say, and she never seems to equivocate. Can she run for leader please???

One Of The Bad Guys (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 9 May 2021 23:07 (two years ago) link

She is very good, but the Labour membership (or whatever remains of them) are a set of arseholes that would vote for Wes before her.

calzino, Sunday, 9 May 2021 23:19 (two years ago) link

even before many of them so-called lefty Corbynistas or whatever you want to call them deserted the party, they still voted in much greater numbers for Ian Murray for deputy over Dawn Butler.

calzino, Sunday, 9 May 2021 23:58 (two years ago) link

Political death to have a candidate with a surname the gammon can poke fun at. Let's hope they don't find out what Johnson means!

I'm not eating that foreign muck *pulls face* (Matt #2), Monday, 10 May 2021 01:51 (two years ago) link

i think zarah sultana needs time to polish up a bit and she could be a deadly weapon

plax (ico), Monday, 10 May 2021 07:28 (two years ago) link

she makes me feel sad, because I feel like she is destined to be marginalised for a very long time in this horrible party. There is no hope in UK politics for decent human beings, especially if they are woman of colour.

calzino, Monday, 10 May 2021 07:43 (two years ago) link

i feel like the thing about AOC for eg is that she also had from the beginning a very strong support base esp locally. the press here would hound her far more ferally and she would be pretty isolated within the party. this is probably in part projection because i can't imagine how awful it would be to stick yr neck out in that way in such nasty times.

plax (ico), Monday, 10 May 2021 07:43 (two years ago) link

apparently our AOC is Babs... captain oates i may be some time

calzino, Monday, 10 May 2021 07:57 (two years ago) link

i know im sorry for doing the aoc thing

plax (ico), Monday, 10 May 2021 08:08 (two years ago) link

wasn't having a pop at you there ftr

calzino, Monday, 10 May 2021 08:14 (two years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E1A7A18WUAAhLo4?format=jpg&name=large

is this real ?

calzino, Monday, 10 May 2021 08:52 (two years ago) link

xp haha no i know im just ashamed

plax (ico), Monday, 10 May 2021 08:52 (two years ago) link

thread seems mainly otm:

There is one very clear message from this week’s elections. It is that politically the UK is in a very confused state. This needs some discussion. A thread follows.....

— Richard Murphy (@RichardJMurphy) May 9, 2021

One Of The Bad Guys (Tracer Hand), Monday, 10 May 2021 08:54 (two years ago) link

Locked account: "Keir Starmer has incidentally not tweeted anything since last Thursday, and his only RTs have been of members of the shadow cabinet thanking him for giving them a job"

xyzzzz__, Monday, 10 May 2021 09:01 (two years ago) link

I am concerned that the next step in our national journey is a Macron-like figure, but more fashy.

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 10 May 2021 09:05 (two years ago) link

xxp agree, makes me think reading some gramsci would be a good idea

plax (ico), Monday, 10 May 2021 09:06 (two years ago) link

If they can keep the economy afloat and reward target areas with investment in services and infrastructure (while punishing solidly Labour ones with austerity), i'm not sure why this model couldn't see them successful for the long-term.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Monday, 10 May 2021 09:12 (two years ago) link

Calzino: sadly no it's not real.

the pinefox, Monday, 10 May 2021 09:13 (two years ago) link

By yesterday evening I started to think that KS seemed like he was going to quit.

Labour had won numerous elections over the weekend, and he hadn't made any kind of statement about any of them: in person at those locations, on camera from London, or even in a tweet.

People would, of course, have savaged JC for such "unprofessional" and "shambolic" conduct.

It almost felt like c.60 years ago when maybe politicians took the weekend off and went to the grouse farm rather than engaging with the media?

the pinefox, Monday, 10 May 2021 09:15 (two years ago) link

I admit that you can be "too online", "it's good to take time off", etc.

But you're the LOTO and your party has just redeemed some of its performance by winning two of the biggest elected positions in the UK? And a whole nation of the UK? And you remain totally silent?

So baffling as to become alarming!

the pinefox, Monday, 10 May 2021 09:17 (two years ago) link

thread seems mainly otm:

Not sure what he means about the right having 'little to do' in an independent Scotland or Wales?

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Monday, 10 May 2021 09:18 (two years ago) link

"the Italian philosopher famously said ..."

The Italian Leninist and Communist Party leader famously said

the pinefox, Monday, 10 May 2021 09:27 (two years ago) link

even a voting id requirement with no cost still introduces a barrier to voting, let alone when people have to pay for a driving license or passport. there's no reason to believe voter fraud is a problem in uk elections, but disenfranchisement already is

— michael wave (@SzMarsupial) May 10, 2021

xyzzzz__, Monday, 10 May 2021 10:03 (two years ago) link

i mean what is twitter if not the "grouse farm" amirite

mark s, Monday, 10 May 2021 10:06 (two years ago) link

If they can keep the economy afloat and reward target areas with investment in services and infrastructure (while punishing solidly Labour ones with austerity), i'm not sure why this model couldn't see them successful for the long-term.

― Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Monday, 10 May 2021 bookmarkflaglink

The economy afloat is a big if depending on various factors outside their control. Also the quality of these projects for poorer areas will probably not cut the mustard after a while as Tories will never want to give poor people money.

Their best bet electorally is divided opposition and increased barriers to voting. Basically a return to Victorian-era England without empire or Union.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 10 May 2021 10:07 (two years ago) link

On bed. Watching Lost =) love it!

— 𝕞𝕖𝕝𝕚𝕤𝕤𝕒 🙈🙉🙊 (@my3monkees) March 26, 2009

xyzzzz__, Monday, 10 May 2021 10:11 (two years ago) link

Lol wtf, this is the post.

48% of Black voters have no form of formal photo ID https://t.co/QJnFszLaxF

— Jason Okundaye (@jasebyjason) May 10, 2021

xyzzzz__, Monday, 10 May 2021 10:12 (two years ago) link

Mark S: yes, the grouse moor.

the pinefox, Monday, 10 May 2021 10:23 (two years ago) link

On bed. Watching Lost =) love it!

— 𝕞𝕖𝕝𝕚𝕤𝕤𝕒 🙈🙉🙊 (@my3monkees) March 26, 2009

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 10 May 2021 10:28 (two years ago) link

oh sorry, I see that's already been posted

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 10 May 2021 10:29 (two years ago) link

we have to go back

nashwan, Monday, 10 May 2021 10:35 (two years ago) link

If they can keep the economy afloat and reward target areas

This seems like a big if — Brexit effects haven't really been felt because of suppressed demand during Covid but there are already noises being made by all the transport firms, convenience stores reducing inventories etc.

Suspect we're not going to have Johnson for much longer either – they know they can't reject IndyRef 2 forever, they know they can't fight it with him because he's toxic in Scotland, and if they feel safe from Labour they'll as a result probably indulge themselves in some more Cummings-Gove infighting until Gove takes over on an "I can save the union" pitch. Can Gove (or any of the other possibles) pull off the same mass appeal that Johnson has? It'll be expensive if so.

xp Either that or go full republican voter-suppression I guess, yes.

stet, Monday, 10 May 2021 10:59 (two years ago) link

Sarwar praised for losing seats.

Starmer tells staff Hartlepool was bitterly disappointing but says delighted at Wales and Scotland performances - praising Anas Sarwar and Mark Drakeford.

— Jessica Elgot (@jessicaelgot) May 10, 2021

xyzzzz__, Monday, 10 May 2021 11:00 (two years ago) link

Further to earlier discussions about the UK media/political class definitions of 'working class' excluding non-white people, I noticed over the weekend there is another group that's excluded, all the better to fit the narrative, young people. I heard John Curtice commenting on how Labour is losing the working class vote and is now relying on votes from middle class liberals, students and young people and I heard it again today from some Telegraph hack. And, of course, there are no working class people in Liverpool and Manchester.

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Monday, 10 May 2021 11:08 (two years ago) link


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