Covidiots in music

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Jesse Rae :(

"I stood as MSP Candidate in 2007 tae warn the Borders that ye were going tae lose a' yer bank Branches.
In 2021 I have tae tell ye something worse. ALL SCOTTISH YOUNG BORDERERS DAE NOT TAKE ANY MANMADE VACCINE INVENTED BY SCIENTISTS .... FOR A MANMADE DISEASE INVENTED BY SCIENTISTS IN CHINA. IF YER UNDER 60 and in guid health...AND DEFINATELY NOT CHILDREN" thank ye

https://www.facebook.com/jesse.rae.56/posts/5500520146688733?__cft__[0]=AZUEa8zxmGTmMOfCrT0b5_MN_sB8ChDQUPNfqhGy_ndPWZZzJnSkp7Ml9a2wwi8yrX9yIbQocsrXc0kqQrNink2IhJsyVHGxWah9DIXBn7973wv0xRZFzakbYJBjUPxr2Twuodc2niRThlSo9TSYQk7-&__tn__=%2CO%2CP-R

Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 21:01 (one month ago) link

Someone pointed me to Charles Hayward's FB page which is full of conspiracy / Great Reset / anti-lockdown bollocks, honestly I blame weed for half of this

Oof. That one smarts.

emil.y, Saturday, 8 May 2021 18:42 (one month ago) link

did nuge die yet

unknown or illegal user (doo rag), Saturday, 8 May 2021 19:39 (one month ago) link

if not can it be expedited

Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Saturday, 8 May 2021 20:33 (one month ago) link

four weeks pass...

How do people not care that they’re ingesting flouride in toothpaste and American water supply?! Not to mention psych meds. Fluoride was put into the water supply at WW2 c Camps 2 make prisoners more docile. It’s still working. Most humans suffer from toxic minds in 1+ more ways

— Annie Hardy Saves (@AnnieHardy) June 2, 2021

not going to keep me from listening to the good Giant Drag album tho

Joe Bombin (milo z), Sunday, 6 June 2021 01:17 (one week ago) link

oops that's not one of the (many) that refer to the 'vid/Fauci/vaccine concentration camps/etc.

I’d just like to thank timehop for reminding me that I was right. Thanks to the new domestic terrorist act anyone who’s ever been to ANY PROTEST is a domestic terrorist & can be imprisoned sans trial indefinitely! To me that sounds like precursor to C Camp if u ask me! pic.twitter.com/x2W6R6nPhH

— Annie Hardy Saves (@AnnieHardy) May 31, 2021

Joe Bombin (milo z), Sunday, 6 June 2021 01:19 (one week ago) link

Well at least she's living up to her band name

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 6 June 2021 01:43 (one week ago) link

Antiguas?

Aunt Maybe (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 6 June 2021 01:47 (one week ago) link

Never heard of her/the band — safe to assume bland, faceless indie "rock"?

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 6 June 2021 02:10 (one week ago) link

The first album was good (but you wouldn't like it).

like a d4mn sociopath! (morrisp), Sunday, 6 June 2021 02:20 (one week ago) link

^ one for the sticker

Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Sunday, 6 June 2021 03:14 (one week ago) link

C Camp is where Bill Gates forces you to learn to code.

Noel Emits, Sunday, 6 June 2021 11:15 (one week ago) link

It's more polite than I'd have liked tbh.

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Friday, 11 June 2021 11:30 (four days ago) link

he is their boy

Left, Friday, 11 June 2021 11:43 (four days ago) link

he further expounded on his views on the pandemic, describing it as a “sham”, “complete and utter bollocks”, intended to “harvest DNA and sell vaccines”, while the vaccine itself was “a piece of software they are injecting into you”.

I think Evan's 'research' paths need to pivot towards an actual understanding of human biology.

I gave it my all and my all wasn't enough (Matt #2), Friday, 11 June 2021 11:52 (four days ago) link

there has been a shift over the last decade or so, hasn't there? a certain kind of artist like this was expected to be a kind of mystical visionary, and being a tinfoil milliner was generally shrugged off as an affected eccentricity. but now we have seen that this bullshit has consequences, nobody has time for it any more. understandably these frazzled old hippies seem to be bewildered by this change in their reception.

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 11 June 2021 12:03 (four days ago) link

i assume none of this is going to change his mind. maybe he might backtrack a little if it starts affecting his bottom line too much, his ability to get booked, record, find collaborators etc. but only maybe. idk how many other musicians in his orbit either share these views or would feel obliged to defend his right to an opinion, or if he's already alienated most of them. i have no idea how financially secure someone like him is, whether he already has or is likely to take a hit for this or not, whether he can afford to or not, or whether that would affect his (enthusiasm for sharing his) views either way

Left, Friday, 11 June 2021 12:21 (four days ago) link

this shift has been largely for the better but it does make people like this feel even more like persecuted truth tellers

Left, Friday, 11 June 2021 12:22 (four days ago) link

COVID-denialism as a (maybe) semi-subconscious rejection of all the ways the world has changed, for (imo) better *and* for (obviously) worse?

Left, Friday, 11 June 2021 12:26 (four days ago) link

like i'm thinking about how so many of these people seem to combine serious (mixed with / filtered through bullshit) concerns about big tech, govt authoritarianism, the pharmaceutical industry, ecological destruction, and other things with seemingly unrelated shit about wokeness and cancel culture, racist and antisemitic stuff, anti-trans stuff, treating it like it's all part of the same big conspiracy (mostly against them personally)?

Left, Friday, 11 June 2021 12:35 (four days ago) link

Looks like Cafe Oto have no problem with this dumbass, I'm sure he won't starve.

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Friday, 11 June 2021 12:52 (four days ago) link

The Wire's editorial is... impressively measured.

Noel Emits, Friday, 11 June 2021 13:05 (four days ago) link

I know quite a few old punk/crust/hippy lags, and they mostly combine a worthy anti-authoritarian stance with any old conspiracy bollocks, which they perceive as an unarguably true worldview you're obliged to swallow whole. It just makes more sensible/less stoned people (like, er, me) hesitant about agreeing with anything they say, as they'll only take it as an opportunity to let you know your opinions are invalid until you agree with all the rest of it. Funny how the avowed anti-racists all end up espousing anti-Semitic conspiracies.

I gave it my all and my all wasn't enough (Matt #2), Friday, 11 June 2021 13:39 (four days ago) link

What happened to the free jazz saxophonist who used to interrupt his shows for long anti-abortion rants, maybe ten or so years ago?

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 11 June 2021 14:13 (four days ago) link

Kenny G, the G stands for "Gag order"

cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Friday, 11 June 2021 14:16 (four days ago) link

xps penny rimbaud came up earlier i think. maybe this is more for the brain worms thread but what makes this so frustrating is how familiar it is, how predicable the trajectory is and how it seems almost impossible to stop or reverse it. I have known too many of these people. but it troubles me so much all concerns about the way things are being handled seem to be funneled in this very fashy direction almost as a matter of course now

Left, Friday, 11 June 2021 14:17 (four days ago) link

christ who was that guy. google only brings up gilad atzmon who is also a scumbag but it wasn't him I'm sure

Left, Friday, 11 June 2021 14:21 (four days ago) link

(I'm well aware my concerns about this sound like total NoSD hairsplitting to some ppl not necessarily here since I'm already in the conspiracy crowd for accusing the govt of eugenics and stuff)

Left, Friday, 11 June 2021 14:30 (four days ago) link

I seem to recall an article about that sax player written by someone who managed a festival that he played at, contending that he SHOULD be allowed to preach anti-abortion on stage, because that is "artistic free expression", but he SHOULD NOT be allowed to say those things in everyday life.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 11 June 2021 14:33 (four days ago) link

lol

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 11 June 2021 14:46 (four days ago) link

idk how many other musicians in his orbit either share these views or would feel obliged to defend his right to an opinion, or if he's already alienated most of them.

― Left, Friday, June 11, 2021 1:21 PM (two hours ago)

I sort of have loose/distant connections to people who know Evan P, and there's definitely been a move from "shuffling uncomfortably" to actively distancing themselves/a few vocal call-outs.

So far I haven't seen any mutuals with Charles Hayward calling him out, though I don't know how close any of my friends actually are with him.

emil.y, Friday, 11 June 2021 14:53 (four days ago) link

What happened to the free jazz saxophonist who used to interrupt his shows for long anti-abortion rants, maybe ten or so years ago?

― Halfway there but for you, Friday, June 11, 2021 10:13 AM (thirty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

That was Charles Gayle. He's been doing that anti-abortion shit -- and nasty homophobic rants -- since at least 1996.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 11 June 2021 14:57 (four days ago) link

evan obv needs to hook up with van for a vaxaphobes w/ saxophones livestream so that I can not listen to them again both at the same time

building a hole (NickB), Friday, 11 June 2021 14:58 (four days ago) link

xxp first part is good to hear. idk the scene beyond going to cafe oto a couple of times so not sure if he's been known for this kind of thing for a while or not. whole thing is kind of sad really but fuck him

Left, Friday, 11 June 2021 15:02 (four days ago) link

christ I really hope anthony braxton isn't into this stuff. wouldn't occur to me if I hadn't heard his complaints about woke culture the other day but I know he's always had some "alternative" beliefs and has been friends with evan. that would hurt more than any of the above wankers

Left, Friday, 11 June 2021 15:06 (four days ago) link

ok this speculation doesn't help anyone

Left, Friday, 11 June 2021 15:08 (four days ago) link

Lots of people collab(ed) with EP, doubt they all think the same way.

Van Halen dot Senate dot flashlight (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 11 June 2021 15:19 (four days ago) link

Hell he and Derek Bailey couldn't agree on lunch.

Van Halen dot Senate dot flashlight (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 11 June 2021 15:20 (four days ago) link

you stole my joke

Left, Friday, 11 June 2021 15:22 (four days ago) link

"descension" is one of the best jazz records released this year, afaic. as i mentioned on the jazz thread, i felt no scruples about downloading it off slsk, because I dont want EP getting a damn penny.

heyy nineteen, that's john belushi (the table is the table), Friday, 11 June 2021 15:45 (four days ago) link

Parker and Matt Shipp have worked together a lot; if they ever actually talked about this it would get loud in a hurry.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 11 June 2021 15:50 (four days ago) link

This is Extra ordinary . pic.twitter.com/M0jmA0JIf2

— Stephen Nolan (@StephenNolan) June 11, 2021

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-57443478

PaulTMA, Friday, 11 June 2021 16:06 (four days ago) link

That was Charles Gayle. He's been doing that anti-abortion shit -- and nasty homophobic rants -- since at least 1996.

I have definitely paid good money to watch Charles Gayle at, where else, Cafe Oto. Not now.

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Friday, 11 June 2021 19:20 (four days ago) link

Van Morrison in stage with Ian Paisley (Jr) - talk about going back to your roots.

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Friday, 11 June 2021 19:22 (four days ago) link

Not liking this new coda to "Cypress Avenue"...

blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 11 June 2021 19:26 (four days ago) link

He lives through the civil rights movement in the USA, the Troubles, Bloody Sunday etc and can’t be bothered to write a line. Make him wash his hands and he pens three protest songs

as for Cafe OTO, what is it with them and edgelords?

stirmonster, Friday, 11 June 2021 23:25 (four days ago) link

the drummer of Gay Dad.

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(j/k, i don’t know what nick crowe thinks)

barreras, Saturday, 12 June 2021 07:06 (three days ago) link


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