US Politics May 2021: Joe Manchin's Choose-Your-Adventure Book

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Well, it definitely would not be a good thing if all the remaining normal assholes in the GOP were forced out and replaced with outright lunatics, esp. if the GOP got the house back. Which is not outside of the realm of possibility, either of those things

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 16:57 (two years ago) link

I don't care.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 17:02 (two years ago) link

Spend the hour analyzing the infrastructure plan. Liz Cheney, a horrible human in other contexts, is irrelevant to me.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 17:03 (two years ago) link

yea I found the booing of Mitt Romney in Utah to be kinda chilling

frogbs, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 17:03 (two years ago) link

I get it -- the Beltway class loves this shit

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 17:03 (two years ago) link

If they want to hitch their wagon to Trump, have at it:
* the first incumbent seeking reelection to see his party lose the White House, Senate, and the House of Representatives since Herbert Hoover
* Per Gallup, he left office with the lowest average approval ratings in the history of the modern Presidency

Not exactly a political juggernaut, but they can't quit him

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 17:12 (two years ago) link

To be fair, it's not like any of their alternatives are looking any more promising.

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 17:17 (two years ago) link

yeah the GOP has kind of reached their logical endpoint, they've left themselves no other option but triple down

frogbs, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 17:22 (two years ago) link

i really want to hope that by doing this their influence will just start to whither, but I live in the USA and know better

akm, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 17:26 (two years ago) link

this will continue to be a problem until democrats take concrete action on any number of voting issues, which they have shown zero interest in doing so far

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 17:26 (two years ago) link

mass disenfranchisement opens the door to these GOP crazies

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 17:27 (two years ago) link

xp to Alfred- yeah I don’t give a shit about Liz Cheney, I’m more thinking about what this means for the GOP- again I kind of don’t give a shit, but I was hoping Trump’s loss would lead them to look beyond his particularly toxic brand of politics and move on. But if not… interesting, disturbing, maybe that’s a good thing if it backfires for them or if it proves out that he’s an anchor dragging the GOP out of power. But time will tell! Disturbing in that the GOP is bound to win some elections going forward no matter what, so if we’re looking at Trumpy candidates going forward instead of Romney/McCain type candidates for the GOP… I’m disturbed.

epistantophus, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 17:28 (two years ago) link

It's more the duration of the story than the story itself I was posting about. Report on it, yes. But two days later, it's basically the same headline--GOP fracture, "hot mic," Cheney will be voted out. Until there's something new to add, move on. Which I realize is a bigger complaint about the media in general.

clemenza, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 17:32 (two years ago) link

epistantophus and clemenza both tom

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 17:37 (two years ago) link

otm too

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 17:37 (two years ago) link

Lol

epistantophus, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 17:40 (two years ago) link

I think I'd like to be Tom Seaver--epistantophus?

clemenza, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 17:43 (two years ago) link

Tom Hagen

Hongro Hongro Hippies (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 17:52 (two years ago) link

this guy gets it

I truly think it will have absolutely zero effect one way or the other on their electoral prospects. https://t.co/WqFR4gPFsJ

— Chris Hayes (@chrislhayes) May 5, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 18:12 (two years ago) link

the thing is though republican voters will not vote for a democrat. and there a lot of them so the potential for another crazy motherfucker winning the presidency is high enough for me to hope the republicans figure their shit out

Heez, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 18:29 (two years ago) link

I think I'd like to be Tom Seaver

Today's Tom Seaver he gets high on you

Frumious Cumberbatch (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 19:15 (two years ago) link

Considering how histrionic some of the state GOP reaction has been, there is a deep well of crazy out there. I think it is just T-minus so many days until something goes down that will make what happened on 1/6 look like a kegger.

Maybe it will die down, but there are too many people funding and making money off the lunacy. It is not even like Fox News or any of the profit centers fleecing this audience has changed, if anything they are doubling down on the whackamole lunacy.

earlnash, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 20:35 (two years ago) link

Hayes is otm of course but it should be said that this sort of lunacy does seem to help the Democrats - 81 million people voted for Joe Biden for God's sake

frogbs, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 20:41 (two years ago) link

I dunno, when there are only two parties, and one of them is packed with lunatics, anything less than total obsolescence makes me a little nervous. I don't know how much this helps the Dems, but I also don't know how much it hurts the GOP. It fact, more lunatics and less regular losers might even *help* them at the polls these days, or at least help them enough.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 20:44 (two years ago) link

does it help enough to overcome the immense structural advantages that the republicans currently have and are working day and night to make even bigger?

xp

the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 20:45 (two years ago) link

Thank you for your honesty, Senator.

This is the whole ballgame. McConnell said this almost verbatim during the Obama era. Time to learn from our mistakes. We have the majority, let’s use it and not worry about pandering to a party that just admitted it’s not interested in governing.pic.twitter.com/8hwfngH9OP

— Brian Tyler Cohen (@briantylercohen) May 5, 2021

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 20:47 (two years ago) link

does it help enough to overcome the immense structural advantages that the republicans currently have and are working day and night to make even bigger?

xp

― the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili),

It helped enough to get Biden elected but not enough to lose 12 House seats. President Manchin needs to support voter reform.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 20:53 (two years ago) link

Whew.. I was worried McConnell was gonna yammer some platitude about cooperating across the aisle for the good of the American people...

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 20:58 (two years ago) link

I've said it several times before but thinking the Republican party will go away is pure fantasy. Roughly 40% of the country has a conservative mindset; they will vote for anyone who is to the right of Democrats.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 21:36 (two years ago) link

40% of ILX is conservative

Filibuster Poindexter (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 21:46 (two years ago) link

more lunatics and less regular losers might even *help* them at the polls these days

I feel like four years ago GOP paired Trump with Pence, to try to mitigate a bit of Trump's bluster and braggadocio with some midwestern churchiness. Now that they've discovered that batshit bluster *is* what sells to their base they'll abandon any semblance of "normalcy" and go full-on lunacy party. Bring on Trump/Gaetz 2024.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 22:19 (two years ago) link

they'll abandon any semblance of "normalcy" and go full-on lunacy party.

They road tested that one in Alabama with Roy Moore vs. Doug Jones. It went poorly enough that Alabama sent their first Democrat to the US Senate in ages. That's in Alabama, mind you. The R's biggest problem rn is that Republican primary voters will continue to embrace full-on lunacy, even when it delivers general election losses.

sharpening the contraindications (Aimless), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 22:49 (two years ago) link

DT peed in that coffee.

blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 22:51 (two years ago) link

Roy Moore is the bottom of the barrel, and even he lost to Doug Jones by only about 1.5%. That is not a margin that make me comfortable.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 22:52 (two years ago) link

And then Doug Jones got beat by the human equivalent of a deflated football.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 22:53 (two years ago) link

Can we stop discussing Trump

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 22:55 (two years ago) link

i believe that coach tuberville is just the man to win the war. yeah, we were down before in the earlier quarters. we lost some battles. but now it's 4th and long, and we're on the 40-yard line and it's a little too long for a field goal. but coach says it's just as well because america doesn't tie in wars, america wins the football game. and coach says we don't even need time outs to win back this nation. we just need to keep our air game solid and make sure we get out of bounds and save some clock time.

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 23:00 (two years ago) link

us politics 2021: drenched in sweat, we love you coach

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 23:01 (two years ago) link

what about me
it isn't fair
I've had enough now I want my share

Filibuster Poindexter (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 23:11 (two years ago) link

President Tuverville is fucked if we have to invade Bear Bryant Stadium IIRC

Joe Bombin (milo z), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 23:24 (two years ago) link

Tuberville? More like Mr. Potato Head.

Because his name is "tuber" and he has a potato for a brain.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 23:30 (two years ago) link

I could only spot 4 differences, what is the 5th?

mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Thursday, 6 May 2021 18:27 (two years ago) link

In the first he's saying. "c'mon, man", while in the second he's saying "malarkey".

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 6 May 2021 18:30 (two years ago) link

you philistines, the one on the bottom has an implied extratextual presidential halo while the one on top does not

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Thursday, 6 May 2021 18:30 (two years ago) link

Hard times for Rowdy Rudy!

Rudy Giuliani, the former personal lawyer for ex-president Donald Trump, has reduced the size of his personal entourage, according to three people familiar with the matter.

The news of Giuliani’s shrinking entourage comes after years of stories suggesting he might be having financial difficulties — or is at least seeking creative ways to make money as he manages his growing legal woes.... Giuliani accidentally left a voicemail for a reporter in which he said, “The problem is we need some money.”

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 6 May 2021 18:31 (two years ago) link

"Accidentally"

Triumph of the Willa Cather (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 6 May 2021 18:33 (two years ago) link

Missed this from the weekend, but a buncha folks on Twitter had fun spamming Crenshaw & Cotton's "Whistleblow The Woke" snitch site.

Good evening Dan Crenshaw. My name is Brady Bulldozer (pseudonym) and I am in SEAL Team 6. Last night, when Biden ordered our unit to infiltrate and eliminate Kim Jong-un, he demanded that we first list our pronouns. That’s when I knew the wokes had won. https://t.co/iFQQSricbL

— Berny Belvedere (@bernybelvedere) May 29, 2021

blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 31 May 2021 18:03 (two years ago) link


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