Silicon Valley Techno-Utopianism

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Re not knowing what they do. This talk of "building cool shit" is much funnier when you do. What a bizarre economy.

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 15:56 (two years ago) link

the line between the Whole Earth Catalog and Q running through silicon valley, the free software foundation, and gamergate is a very bright and straight one

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 15:57 (two years ago) link

someone on twitter reminded me that the guy who was canned from Google for “just asking questions” originally had @Fired4Truth as his twitter handle

this will never not be funny

mh, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 17:14 (two years ago) link

I'm asking what you think. You say it's a bad idea to hire people who say things for shock value. Presumably you mean to include Antonio, or you wouldn't have mentioned this. So are you saying that in a world of properly run companies, he should never work again?

— Paul Graham (@paulg) May 13, 2021



this entire thread is hilarious. someone tells paul graham, hey, I wouldn’t hire a guy who says crap like this. graham turns it into some sort of thought exercise, because.. you can’t just run a SV company, you have to be creating some platonic ideal of How to Run a Company

mh, Friday, 14 May 2021 12:41 (two years ago) link

I ain’t clicking through on that

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Friday, 14 May 2021 13:40 (two years ago) link

I think you can get the point without clicking. PG just being obtuse and acting like “don’t hire jerks” means that all of our best thought leaders will be unemployed

mh, Friday, 14 May 2021 13:50 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

Ex-Facebook VR exec says he'll turn U.S. troops into 'invincible technomancers,' just raised $450 million https://t.co/xufDyzkh0n

— CNBC (@CNBC) June 17, 2021

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, 17 June 2021 20:52 (two years ago) link

"ex-facebook vr exec" doesn't really capture that guy's bio tbf

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 17 June 2021 20:54 (two years ago) link

Is that the worst beard in the world?

DJI, Thursday, 17 June 2021 20:57 (two years ago) link

Indeed. I don't usually notice facial hair but that's outstandingly bad

kinder, Thursday, 17 June 2021 21:07 (two years ago) link

an acquaintance launched the public sale of his startup's crypto token, yesterday. it aims to eliminate global poverty by creating "a regenerative, bottom-up universal basic income (UBI) that can elevate all participants above the global poverty line."

"if the Torus can return $2/day to its participants (as Anatha Token), it can make poverty a disease we’ve cured"... so, peak silicon-valley optimism. it would be cool to see crypto/distributed finance eliminate poverty at any scale.

https://anatha.io/blog/token-sale
https://www.morningstar.com/news/globe-newswire/8255815/anatha-announces-its-accessible-equitable-public-token-sale-accepting-fiat-and-crypto

davey, Thursday, 17 June 2021 21:37 (two years ago) link

xpost that Facebook guy is Parker Luckey, who I interviewed once and might have been the most awkward conversation I've ever had, absolute basement boy

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 17 June 2021 21:40 (two years ago) link

his sister is engaged to matt gaetz.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 17 June 2021 21:51 (two years ago) link

the Oculus acquisition still baffles me. "we integrated the phone with the ski goggles. now we want 3 billion dollars."

butyrate humbucker bobbins (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 17 June 2021 21:57 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

India was the Y combinator of the British empire

— Daniel Tenreiro 🦧 (@TenreiroDaniel) August 5, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 6 August 2021 13:59 (two years ago) link

I know he means something stupid, let's click through and see if he clarified his thoughts at all

An outsize portion of the empire’s great talents were nurtured in the Raj. Fascinating phenomenon . . .

— Daniel Tenreiro 🦧 (@TenreiroDaniel) August 5, 2021

*screaming intensifies*

mh, Friday, 6 August 2021 14:28 (two years ago) link

the Oculus acquisition still baffles me. "we integrated the phone with the ski goggles. now we want 3 billion dollars."

I heard Zuck on the radio awhile ago, and he has big plans for VR. Facebook has never been a leader in the hardware world, and he sees this as the future; you'll go to the office in VR, maybe have lunch while in VR, then attend a 'concert' after work in VR. If that doesn't sound dystopian, I don't know what is.

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 6 August 2021 17:07 (two years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/AFDRfK0.gif

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 6 August 2021 17:11 (two years ago) link

I don't think you need to spend that money just to get into VR. Certainly none of that ip will make up zuck's horrible vr hell.

I don't think VR will ever be a real hit until they devise a blowjob machine that actually feels like a mouth to get the porn-driven mass adoption of VHS/DVD/streaming.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Friday, 6 August 2021 23:02 (two years ago) link

tragic lol @ this thread

25 years ago Microsoft released Internet Explorer 3.0, its first real salvo in the “Browser Wars”. This launch taught taught me how a giant corporation could move at the speed of a startup. Here’s the story: pic.twitter.com/ZEYcxYrUgI

— Hadi Partovi (@hadip) August 14, 2021

this bit in particular:

Sadly, there were divorces and broken families and bad things that came out of that. But I also learned that even at a 20,000-person company, you can get a team of 100 people to work like their lives depend on it.

— Hadi Partovi (@hadip) August 14, 2021

the distance between their ideology and the reality of what these people produce is astonishing / beyond parody

rob, Sunday, 15 August 2021 15:54 (two years ago) link

ah, I just noticed this dude is a director at the company that makes tasers and police drones

rob, Sunday, 15 August 2021 15:56 (two years ago) link

moving at the speed of a 100-person startup

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 15 August 2021 17:00 (two years ago) link

lol seriously

I just can't get over how this was all in service of developing a product that was indistinguishable from an already massively popular one. I want to read the breathless thread about how people wrecked their lives to put out the Zune

rob, Sunday, 15 August 2021 17:15 (two years ago) link

"yeah I worked 90 hours a week, destroyed my marriage, and didn't watch my kids grow up but hey we shipped an important product"

"ah well at least you're rich now"

"oh no, no no no, but i have the satisfaction of having made other people rich"

completely deranged

— Kat Cosgrove (@Dixie3Flatline) August 15, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 15 August 2021 23:54 (two years ago) link

I just can't get over how this was all in service of developing a product that was indistinguishable from an already massively popular one. I want to read the breathless thread about how people wrecked their lives to put out the Zune

in retrospect, the zune was the first time i really became aware of tech overbloat. it's still funny to think about. and the word 'zune' has to be a nadir of the english language. it still makes me cringe-laugh at how bad it is.

Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Monday, 16 August 2021 03:06 (two years ago) link

I just can't get over how this was all in service of developing a product that was indistinguishable from an already massively popular one.

That sort of product defined the Steve Ballmer era at Microsoft. Microsoft thought they learnt from Internet Explorer that they could crush any hot new tech product or service from another company simply by throwing money at it and melding it into Windows, but what worked for IE didn't work for Zune, Bing, Windows Phone, and several others - all reactions to competitors who got there first and did it better. Even IE itself would later crash and burn. Microsoft has since replaced it with Edge, a web browser most of us use exactly once, to download Chrome...

Lee626, Monday, 16 August 2021 04:41 (two years ago) link

Now Edge is just Chrome

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Monday, 16 August 2021 05:06 (two years ago) link

don’t forget that msft bought the world’s most popular video calling software and rendered it an unusable add-on to Teams right before the pandemic hit. has to be in their top 5 galaxy brane moves

Tracer Hand, Monday, 16 August 2021 07:00 (two years ago) link

oh yeah Bing! lmao

rob, Monday, 16 August 2021 13:20 (two years ago) link

Tracer, which one? I’m thinking of Skype here, but they bought that in 2011 and have been fucking it up in various ways for a decade

mh, Monday, 16 August 2021 15:41 (two years ago) link

I don't use Chrome anymore, now Firefox is my best friend

aegis philbin (crüt), Monday, 16 August 2021 16:27 (two years ago) link

Chrome is spyware tbrr, and on the user end I feel like the diffs between browsers are super minimal now. heck I barely see a diff between DuckDuckGo and Google Search now

rob, Monday, 16 August 2021 16:46 (two years ago) link

i agree that chrome is spyware and no one should use it, and ff is equivalent for almost all users, but the new safari is pretty drastically different from either for better or worse (well, it's definitely worse, but it's good to see someone trying something new i guess).

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 16 August 2021 16:50 (two years ago) link

mh - yeah skype - i guess i mean they finally basically buried it completely within the guts of Teams right before the pandemic. on my work computer at least, it had been hanging on as 'Skype for Business' for several years. incredible to me how thoroughly they nuked the brand equity. 'Skype' was a verb that most people knew! it meant video calling!

Tracer Hand, Monday, 16 August 2021 17:04 (two years ago) link

but the new safari is pretty drastically different from either for better or worse (well, it's definitely worse, but it's good to see someone trying something new i guess)

ha! I'm not sure I've tried this version, now I'm intrigued

rob, Monday, 16 August 2021 17:07 (two years ago) link

I only use Safari. If I had a BSD or Linux desktop I'd probably use either Firefox or this bullshit http://surf.suckless.org

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Monday, 16 August 2021 17:54 (two years ago) link

what's different about the new safari?

Tracer Hand, Monday, 16 August 2021 19:19 (two years ago) link

they've dialed it back a bit since WWDC but it's still pretty weird

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 16 August 2021 19:30 (two years ago) link

https://mjtsai.com/blog/2021/06/17/safari-15/

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 16 August 2021 19:31 (two years ago) link

Gonna stick with Firefox. That looks like make-work for a team that should move on to something else.

DJI, Monday, 16 August 2021 19:31 (two years ago) link

Bookmarks and tabs have both always been huge problems - people just don't use them well, or efficiently, or at all - so I can't hate them putting some effort into that

Tracer Hand, Monday, 16 August 2021 20:18 (two years ago) link

safari changes seem just… whatever, to me, so far.

Tracer, I don’t think “Skype for Business” had anything to do with actual Skype, which afaik was a separate, incompatible program. They literally just rebranded their messaging program that came with Office a third time. (Office Communicator, Lynn, then Skype iirc)

mh, Tuesday, 17 August 2021 02:53 (two years ago) link

haha oh

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 17 August 2021 09:08 (two years ago) link

whoops, typo there, the second one was “Lync”

calling their shitty messaging app that never worked right “Skype” was one of the stupidest branding ploys they’ve done imo

mh, Wednesday, 18 August 2021 17:07 (two years ago) link

there’s no reason to doubt that Balwani is what she alleges he is but how much of a defense is it? Lee Boyd Malvo is doing life for murders he did while a teenager under the sway of an older man but he’s a Black man and Holmes is a white woman.

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Saturday, 28 August 2021 18:11 (two years ago) link

I don't think it is much of a defense.

The story just gives me the willies.

Taliban! (PBKR), Saturday, 28 August 2021 18:37 (two years ago) link


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