Free as a Dodo: UK Politics Welcomes 2021

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Yeah, but who cares? It would still be bad for Labour and thus make it more possible for leftist candidates to succeed.

I mean where are the Green left shitposters on twitter?

A pretty popular option in the replies to Juliet Jacque's tweet about whom to vote for, actually. Though of course Binface still reigns supreme.

― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 09:17 (fifty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

there is a particular strain of black environmentalist leftist discourse in the uk that i have literally never seen reflected in mainstream culture but have encountered plenty irl (and in fact you live in probably the centre of) xyz. I remember people liking the brixton candidate a few years ago and i feel like a lot of people i know voted for him in the 2015 elections (i didn't live in the borough at the time so im not going to like /vouch/ for him). I think the green party is not worth taking seriously for all the reasons people often give on this thread but as with most things there are definitely interesting pockets within it even if they are a relatively small faction compared to white dreadlock trust fund activists and people who like the cotswolds.

plax (ico), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 10:24 (two years ago) link

I moved to Brixton in 2016/17 and haven't really encountered it. The left around here is good but mostly white.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 10:37 (two years ago) link

literally one month apart, lmao pic.twitter.com/E2P5ulTQTI

— ਜੀਵਨ ਰਾਏ🔻 (@jeevanrai) May 5, 2021

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 10:46 (two years ago) link

Calzino - why 'landlord'? Unaware of this.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 10:54 (two years ago) link

Cos he believes every weird conspiracy he sees on twitter probably.

Scamp Granada (gyac), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 10:58 (two years ago) link

choosing to believe what certain twitter shitposters say about overrated dickheads like OJ is not quite the same as being gullible, gyac!

calzino, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 11:00 (two years ago) link

This is just painful bollocks to read. Is John Harris on holiday?

Few thoughts from being there... Whatever happens tomorrow, it is clear that Labour (as it knows) can't take constituencies like this for granted - people have taken first step to Brexit party and increasing numbers now willing to jump to the Tories. 2/

— Anushka Asthana (@AnushkaAsthana) May 5, 2021

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 11:10 (two years ago) link

Labour has spent a year pandering to these voters!

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 11:12 (two years ago) link

choosing to believe what certain twitter shitposters say about overrated dickheads like OJ is not quite the same as being gullible, gyac!


Nah it’s just being a conspiracist like you were with that Ash Sarkar nonsense.

Scamp Granada (gyac), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 11:12 (two years ago) link

I don’t mean to be rude but Anushka Astana’a analysis is completely worthless

Scamp Granada (gyac), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 11:13 (two years ago) link

This seem pretty fundamental, but I have never seen it presented quite so boldly:

If Hartlepool falls to the UK Conservatives, it will fit into a pattern of Tory wins where home ownership rates are 50%+ - wherever in the country this is. Is this the central narrative? Data: https://t.co/3qwXDZwyEX See also: https://t.co/sQ4IK2lXbB .@davies_will .@redhistorian pic.twitter.com/RidaST7UDz

— Michael Peel (@Mikepeeljourno) May 5, 2021

Piedie Gimbel, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 11:31 (two years ago) link

conspiracist lol shut up Gyac. you really are full of shit sometimes!

calzino, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 11:33 (two years ago) link

xp weird how that’s now acceptable analysis when it wasn’t 2015-19 when Labour was simply not racist enough.

Scamp Granada (gyac), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 11:53 (two years ago) link

700,000+ landlords have been created in the past 10 years. pic.twitter.com/JM8vTotSbq

— Adam Standring (@AdamPolitics) May 5, 2021

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 12:54 (two years ago) link

Why should homeowners vote Conservative?

the pinefox, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 13:06 (two years ago) link

Once you start worrying that house prices will fall instead of worrying that they will rise like any decent person, you might as well go all-in and join the conservative party?

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 13:16 (two years ago) link

Yeah, there was a brief period where the Labour party didn't have the propping up of house prices as clearly their highest priority, so really, can you trust them again?

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 13:30 (two years ago) link

The Government wants to impose a catastrophic 50% funding cut to arts subjects at higher education (HE) level in England. Sign this so that @GavinWilliamson knows how much arts education matters to us all https://t.co/mUUnoy9fUS

— DAL (@dalchodha) May 5, 2021

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 13:36 (two years ago) link

I think 2021 Labour's most radical housing policies are a proposal to suspend right-to-buy and some weak piss about redefining "affordable homes" as linked to local income. And I could imagine them getting watered down even more.

calzino, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 13:44 (two years ago) link

if someone's already voted tory then they aren't coming back

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 13:47 (two years ago) link

the school arts cuts are one of 1000 appalling things the tories are doing or have done and a petition will do nothing to persuade them otherwise

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 13:49 (two years ago) link

thing is the so much of the arts, especially performing arts, seems to have been even less represented by people from poorer backgrounds since fuck knows when but it seems to getting worse - although that might be just my chip on each shoulder perception. You start cutting this from state education it just adds to this perception in young people that the arts are for the elites and don't even think about it kid.

calzino, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 14:45 (two years ago) link

the school arts cuts are one of 1000 appalling things the tories are doing or have done and a petition will do nothing to persuade them otherwise

― A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 bookmarkflaglink

Sure, just didn't know this was happening until I read that petition

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 15:00 (two years ago) link

(xp) Chippy schmippy, your perception is correct.

Authoritarian Steaks (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 16:11 (two years ago) link

just heard: "tomorrow is being dubbed as Super Thursday.." on R4. Might be having Black Friday earlier this year.

calzino, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 16:31 (two years ago) link

Once you start worrying that house prices will fall instead of worrying that they will rise like any decent person, you might as well go all-in and join the conservative party?
― A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, May 5, 2021

Suppose that you are lucky enough to be able to buy a home or get a mortgage (increasingly difficult, to be sure).

Then one thing it would be logical to want would be a solid and sustainable society and community around it - reliable schools (especially if like many homeowners you start a family), health service, councils, roads, public transport, refuse collection, policing, parks, and increasing equality to reduce crime.

It's no good buying a property and then living in it in the middle of a neo-Thatcherite BLADE RUNNER / MAD MAX wasteland in constant fear.

In fact the good things above should even boost the value of the property, if you're bothered about that.

I still do not see why a homeowner would not support social democracy, aka Corbynism.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 16:35 (two years ago) link

I guess the implied second part there is that the majority of (middle-class / middle-aged) people in the country are selfish, blinkered and ignorant when it comes to politics, not that this is news to anyone, I know.

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 16:43 (two years ago) link

the thing about The Arts is that at grass roots level they've always been hugely important to working class people and other minorities in the UK and they still are and i'm not sure that high profile toffs in TV and film acting is a new thing or a sign that much has changed

Chickpeas, Scamps and Beeves (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 17:02 (two years ago) link

and it's also precisely kids from working class backgrounds that will lose most from arts ed being cut

Chickpeas, Scamps and Beeves (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 17:03 (two years ago) link

Greens polling fifth? I love to see it

Final London Mayoral Poll

Sadiq Khan 41% (-)
Shaun Bailey 29 (+1)
Luisa Porritt 8 (-)
Sian Berry 5 (-1)
Others 17 (-)

After transfers:
Sadiq Khan 60 (-1)
Shaun Bailey 40 (+1)

29 April - 4 May

(chg from 13-19 April) pic.twitter.com/LH7zO10SvD

— Savanta ComRes (@SavantaComRes) May 5, 2021

Scamp Granada (gyac), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 17:16 (two years ago) link

latest polling for tomorrow's scottish parliamentary election seem like they may be set to be "good" i.e. alba a bust, tories down a bit, labour and greens up a bit. although you never know with d'hondt; so many ifs, buts and what have yous.

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 17:17 (two years ago) link

Niko Omilana doing god's work, surely Londoners can push him past the Lib Dems with a bit of effort

Chickpeas, Scamps and Beeves (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 17:18 (two years ago) link

Hope ilx Londoners thinking of giving Niko their vote 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

MY FULL MANIFESTO #NikoForMayor pic.twitter.com/6OE9qmugd6

— NDL Vibeside (@NikoOmilana) April 27, 2021

Scamp Granada (gyac), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 17:20 (two years ago) link

i'd vote for him

Chickpeas, Scamps and Beeves (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 17:21 (two years ago) link

"Greens polling fifth? I love to see it"

Lower than a lib dem lol

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 17:37 (two years ago) link

I reckon if the Greens stopped trying to foist Sian Berry on Londoners they'd be outpolling Niko Omilana at least.

Authoritarian Steaks (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 17:41 (two years ago) link

Talk about a one person party, who was that hopeless woman they had as leader for about 5 minutes?

Authoritarian Steaks (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 17:42 (two years ago) link

nitilie?

plax (ico), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 17:47 (two years ago) link

... now Baroness Bennett of Manor Castle. The UK, what a fucking joke of a country.

Authoritarian Steaks (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 17:49 (two years ago) link

Please enjoy this incredible election campaign video from Blackburn pic.twitter.com/qoACXnsGcf

— Hannah Al-Othman 📝🗞 (@HannahAlOthman) May 5, 2021

groovypanda, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 17:55 (two years ago) link

Jonathon Bartley looks and talks like a right twat as well. I don't why a one MP party needs two smug party leaders.

calzino, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 17:56 (two years ago) link

probably need two leaders to keep an eye on some of their dodgier members who if invited onto a bbc show as Green reprehensitive might start saying Hitler was pretty solid on some things. Tbh I recall something like this actually happening once!

calzino, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 18:04 (two years ago) link

That video from Blackburn is conservative ideology at its most pure.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 18:15 (two years ago) link

I like the way stood in front of that graffitied cock on that slide with "suck" written underneath it

calzino, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 18:25 (two years ago) link

Can’t wait to see how the Royal Navy is going to demand electricity for Jersey

stet, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 19:32 (two years ago) link

sounds like a job for HMS Pitt the Younger - which is just a floating nuke!

calzino, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 20:51 (two years ago) link

the long 19th century is back again baby!

calzino, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 21:09 (two years ago) link

I don't think I have ever before looked forward eagerly to a potentially disastrous election day for Labour. But right now feels quite like Christmas Eve. I cannot wait to vote against this party that is now run by corrupt and vicious people.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 23:10 (two years ago) link

it's good schadenfreude when it's stupid fucking local elections and you've been waiting for Kieth to get a bloody nose since about a millisecond after the cunt was elected!

calzino, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 23:18 (two years ago) link

I remember the night before the 2018 local elections and there was the unrealistic expectation that the tories would get completely wiped out in London. it didn't happen, but still much happier times than now.

calzino, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 23:31 (two years ago) link


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