In defense of Big Audio Dynamite

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Think that’s bad?

My copy was one of those “Portugal” cheapies...

Mark G, Sunday, 2 May 2021 22:54 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Following me reviving this thread a few weeks ago,
I ended up with a FLAC version of the unreleased album, 'Entering A New Ride', which I had but in scrappy lo-fi mp3 form.
All cliches aside, it's a massive return to form if you like the BAD thing.

mark e, Saturday, 29 May 2021 20:55 (two years ago) link

I hadn't heard it before, and am definitely enjoying it - some shades of later Carbon/Silicon tracks in there, too.

vcrash, Monday, 31 May 2021 17:39 (two years ago) link

Hey where can a brother get a copy of the unreleased BAD album? They are hugely underappreciated.

N.B. a new cleaner mix has recently been discovered of Rat Patrol at Fort Brag (only one G apparently) and it is great. I love Joe of course but Mick gets so much undeserved criticism.

stop torturing me ethel (broom air), Monday, 31 May 2021 19:25 (two years ago) link

broom air : the old semi official fan website provides all the information you need.

mark e, Monday, 31 May 2021 22:09 (two years ago) link

Thanks, Mark -- especially if you're also the Mark who cleaned up that Rat Patrol on the Clash site.

stop torturing me ethel (broom air), Tuesday, 1 June 2021 00:48 (two years ago) link

did you find relevant page?
i meant to post a link.
and no, sorry, i am not that mark.

mark e, Tuesday, 1 June 2021 08:19 (two years ago) link

four months pass...

Really feeling “C’mon Every Beatbox” right now.

Double Chocula (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 16 October 2021 02:25 (two years ago) link

The rose garden is already littered with my victims.

Double Chocula (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 16 October 2021 04:15 (two years ago) link

The promoter didn't book no undertaker

Vast Halo, Saturday, 16 October 2021 13:18 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

looks like the semi-unoffical website with links to the 2cd zip of 'entering .. ' has been taken offline.

should anyone still be interested then my ilX email is still good to go.

mark e, Thursday, 13 January 2022 22:36 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

The Planet B.A.D. compilation is pretty enjoyable. Could be better - it kind of falls apart before the end, and I would have preferred the full-length album tracks for the wonderfully strange bits that were chopped out of the singles - but if you take the best moments and put them together, it does feel like a good extension of what the Clash accomplished on Combat Rock. Not on par but it does get to places they hadn't reached yet.

Tweaking the tracklist to my tastes, I would've been good with:

1. The Bottom Line
2. E=MC²
3. Medicine Show
4. C'mon Every Beatbox
5. Beyond the Pale
6. V. Thirteen
7. Sightsee M.C!
8. Just Play Music!
9. Other 99
10. Union, Jack
11. Contact
12. House Arrest
13. Free
14. Rush
15. Can't Wait/Live
16. The Globe

birdistheword, Saturday, 26 March 2022 20:21 (two years ago) link

imho : BAD were one of the few bands of that era who were actually all about the album as opposed to single tracks.
hence i dont have any of the comps.

mark e, Saturday, 26 March 2022 20:33 (two years ago) link

I like "Free" though - it's nice having that on a compilation instead of hunting down the Flashback soundtrack. (Prescient sample: "Once we get out of the '80s, the '90s are gonna make the '60s look like the '50s.")

birdistheword, Saturday, 26 March 2022 20:46 (two years ago) link

bugger.
i guess i need to track that song down then.
i.e. i had no idea there were non-album tracks out there on soundtracks etc ..

mark e, Saturday, 26 March 2022 21:14 (two years ago) link

It’s a fun movie - if you’re bothering to track down the song, might as well watch the flick first to hear it in situ.

beepy fridges (sic), Sunday, 27 March 2022 00:21 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

I loved BAD. Was fortunate enough to see them once at a small venue in Denver in 1987. Along with the Mescaleros, they successfully continued some of the experimentation begun in the Clash. Mick's almost complete lack of productivity in the past couple of decades is kind of baffling.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 6 May 2022 12:51 (one year ago) link

not sure if I ever noticed Neneh when watching a 1980s VHS on a 1970s CRT in the 1990s.

Yul Brynner film festival on Channel 48... (sic), Friday, 6 May 2022 15:51 (one year ago) link

I didn't notice! But now I see!

Johnny Thunderwords (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 6 May 2022 16:03 (one year ago) link

I'm kind of fascinated by a certain line

Johnny Thunderwords (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 6 May 2022 16:08 (one year ago) link

A certain line of movie dialogue sampled in "Hollywood Boulevard."

Johnny Thunderwords (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 6 May 2022 16:08 (one year ago) link

Also can't figure out who that Beastie Boy looking guy is at 2:45 in the "C'mon Every Beatbox" video is.

Johnny Thunderwords (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 6 May 2022 16:12 (one year ago) link

Some of the same people including Neneh are Cherry are apparently also in the video for "Medicine Show."

Johnny Thunderwords (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 6 May 2022 16:15 (one year ago) link

i had never noticed that re Neneh.
i seem to recall reading somewhere that both of these BAD videos were filmed back to back,
as there were plans to release the debut album as a video album which was a thing at the time.
hence the similar look/folks involved.

in other news : Megatop Phoenix is one of the best albums ever.

mark e, Saturday, 7 May 2022 21:15 (one year ago) link

(C'mon Every Beatbox is not on the same album as Medicine Show)

Also can't figure out who that Beastie Boy looking guy is at 2:45 in the "C'mon Every Beatbox" video is.

He's also at the start, and also in the Medicine Show video - guessing that he's Flea.

Yul Brynner film festival on Channel 48... (sic), Saturday, 7 May 2022 21:37 (one year ago) link

(C'mon Every Beatbox is not on the same album as Medicine Show)

good point.
a case of crap memory groove on my side.

still, i am definitely not wrong re Megatop Phoenix.

mark e, Saturday, 7 May 2022 21:57 (one year ago) link

Lol at Flea.

Johnny Thunderwords (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 7 May 2022 22:08 (one year ago) link

D'oh! Who knew there two guys wiling to call themselves Flea?

Johnny Thunderwords (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 7 May 2022 22:09 (one year ago) link

Anyway, hard to tell comparing with more recent photos.

Johnny Thunderwords (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 7 May 2022 22:13 (one year ago) link

quick question : Kool-Aid vs The Globe

personally, despite the truly dreadful cover, i prefer the sample excess of Kool-Aid ..

mark e, Saturday, 7 May 2022 22:18 (one year ago) link

Major fan of Megatop Phoenix (Tighten Up '88 isn't bad either). Stalag 123 gives me goosebumps every time. The flow of the album is just ace.

Psychocandy Apple Grey (Pyschocandles), Sunday, 8 May 2022 07:58 (one year ago) link

assume that's Greg Roberts the drummer around 2:45

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Sunday, 8 May 2022 18:10 (one year ago) link

Yes! Never heard of his other band, Dreadzone. They seem to be a bit of a punchline around these parts.

Don't Renege On (Our Dub) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 8 May 2022 18:49 (one year ago) link

Might start a Big Audio Dive-a-mite but have a feeling “Beyond the Pale” will remain my favorite.

Don't Renege On (Our Dub) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 8 May 2022 19:13 (one year ago) link

Also weird that there is a long section of this thread about REM.

Don't Renege On (Our Dub) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 8 May 2022 19:14 (one year ago) link

Bassline on “E=MC2” reminding me of “Marquee Moon.”

Don't Renege On (Our Dub) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 8 May 2022 19:21 (one year ago) link

until this revival i had totally forgotten that i actually have 2 albums by dreadzone.

mark e, Sunday, 8 May 2022 19:45 (one year ago) link

going to listen to Upping St. for the first time in a very long time.
i saw B.A.D live in leeds on the release tour when they had 2 stages.
the main stage for them and their main supports, chiefs of relief, and the second stage that was used while things were being set up.
at the time i thought it was amazing - you watched an act, then turn around and watch another act.
turns out that one of the acts on the second stage was rodney p.

mark e, Sunday, 8 May 2022 19:55 (one year ago) link

oh, and before the gig
(at the big refectory venue i.e. where The Who etc etc),
i happened to bump into Mick and Leo.
they signed my Leeds Uni union card ..
and yeah, i was a total dumbstruck fanboy of course.

mark e, Sunday, 8 May 2022 20:15 (one year ago) link

for various reasons, for a couple of days, i have the unreleased final album in FLAC form sitting in my FTP site.
if there are folks in this thread who have not grabbed it over the years and are interested in hearing it then holla via the ilx email option.

mark e, Friday, 20 May 2022 20:20 (one year ago) link

p.s. to any folks interested, i need an email address to send the link to ..

mark e, Friday, 20 May 2022 20:53 (one year ago) link

Don't Renege: nice one on E=MC2 // Marquee Moon. Absolutely.

three of the doctor's valuable bats are now dead (broom air), Friday, 20 May 2022 23:09 (one year ago) link

btw.
if you check the discogs page for 'Entering ..'
then there was meant to be a 2nd cd i.e. tracks 12-18 :

https://www.discogs.com/release/4757692-Big-Audio-Dynamite-Entering-A-New-Ride

if those that have enjoyed the source album are wanting more, then i can help.
the files are not in FLAC quality or even high mp3 quality, just 192s.
but still.

mark e, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 20:10 (one year ago) link

That discogs page is "for" a web page hosting a fan-made bootleg, and makes it clear that the bonus tracks are not compiled from the same source as the album. (Most of them were from Radioactive label samplers, iirc, so oddly enough could have FLAC versions...)

But here's a recently-revised version of the album by band DJ "Lord Zonka"

Yul Brynner film festival on Channel 48... (sic), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 23:53 (one year ago) link

ta for the clarification sic.
i got my cd-r from someone on the BAD forum after the band stopped posting mp3s of individual tracks.
it had digital hiccups on several tracks, but still was the only way i was able to hear the album.
i found the FLAC version via the bands wiki page last year (link has since been removed) which increased the sound quality quality,
and removed the hiccups (which i now kind of miss !).
had no idea re the zonka version.

mark e, Thursday, 26 May 2022 09:48 (one year ago) link

https://www.discogs.com/release/836966-Big-Audio-Dynamite-Big-Audio-Dynamite-II-The-Lost-Treasure-Of-Big-Audio-Dynamite-I-II

well, this is quite a compilation.
12" remixes that have been mentioned upthread on the first cd, and other non-album tracks.
had no idea it existed until last night.
the rick rubin remix of 'bottom line' is absolutey the one for me.
as per discussion upthread - it was a freebie one sided 12" with the c'mon every beatbox 12", and is totally wonderful.
also, pretty sure the E=MC2 is the Widescreen remix - same remix credit.

who oh why was this 2cd set not released in the uk !

mark e, Thursday, 26 May 2022 17:27 (one year ago) link

I like "Free" though - it's nice having that on a compilation instead of hunting down the Flashback soundtrack. (Prescient sample: "Once we get out of the '80s, the '90s are gonna make the '60s look like the '50s.")

― birdistheword,

tracked this down, and my head was all 'i know this ... '
of course i did.
it's an early version of one of my fave tracks of theirs.
with that all important sample as mentioned.
the 'song' starts at 2:46.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjn-bUE6bzk

mark e, Thursday, 26 May 2022 18:49 (one year ago) link

That Bert Bevans mix of E=mc2 had its intro nicked for "Life is a Rollercoaster" Ronan Keating...

(I've been looking for that version on cd for ooh...)

Mark G, Thursday, 26 May 2022 20:32 (one year ago) link

hope your ilx email is still valid mark g.

here is wrong toms love for sightsee mc

https://skankblogbologna.wordpress.com/2011/05/27/a-dynamite-mc/

mark e, Thursday, 26 May 2022 20:47 (one year ago) link


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