Global Warming's Terrifying New Math

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https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2021-energy-land-use-economy/

The U.S. Will Need a Lot of Land for a Zero-Carbon Economy

One thing we're definitely short on: land.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Friday, 30 April 2021 22:44 (two years ago) link

here the liberals go again, all this uncarbonous power and how are they going to land for it?!

Bobo Honk, real name, no gimmicks (Doctor Casino), Friday, 30 April 2021 23:44 (two years ago) link

The one thing which must never ever be mentioned in connection to reducing the greenhouse gas output of the USA economy, even in a whisper, are the concepts of wasting less energy, using less energy, consuming less of anything, making any noticeable sacrifices of any kind, or changing one's habits in any way. The very mention of any of these concepts is taboo among climate change activists, even among themselves, lest word leak out to the general public that addressing climate change might require any one of these eventualities.

Shhh. Don't tell anyone I said so.

sharpening the contraindications (Aimless), Saturday, 1 May 2021 03:47 (two years ago) link

wait, where's that from?

Bobo Honk, real name, no gimmicks (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 1 May 2021 12:00 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...
two months pass...

AR6 is on the way

Monday’s findings are undoubtedly grim, acknowledged lead author Claudia Tebaldi, a scientist at the Pacific Northwest National Laboratory.

But people should not dwell in regret for the failures of the past, Tebaldi said, or only despair over possibilities that are not yet inescapable. Instead, she urged people to focus on what can still be done, on what can still be salvaged.

After all, the hard math of science shows that a concerted push by governments and the private sector can still bend the world’s troubling trajectory. Each action to slow the pace of emissions gives society more time to adapt to changes we know are coming. Each degree of warming that humans avoid saves us from climate catastrophes that don’t have to happen.

“Things are going to change for the worse. But they can change less for the worse than they would have, if we are able to limit our footprint now,” Tebaldi said.

“Every little bit counts.”

https://www.ipcc.ch/assessment-report/ar6/

sigh

Read between the lines Zach (Karl Malone), Monday, 9 August 2021 09:04 (two years ago) link

that was the most optimistic quote i could find

Read between the lines Zach (Karl Malone), Monday, 9 August 2021 09:04 (two years ago) link

governments and the private sector, the cause of and solution to all of our problems

i wish one of these scientists would just come out and say we need to fucking end capitalism now or at least give some good sabotage tips because they must fucking know this isn’t fucking working

Left, Monday, 9 August 2021 10:21 (two years ago) link

since hearing Olufemi Taiwo use the phrase climate genocide to describe the current status quo and the trajectory we seem to be on I haven’t been able to get it out of my head. it seems to be the closest thing to consensus we have in the North about what needs to be done and that is fucking terrifying. there are way too few climate scientists and activists speaking out against the border or even making the connection

Left, Monday, 9 August 2021 10:33 (two years ago) link

For those who may just be waking up to these facts, the good news is that we’re not starting from scratch. We can build on generations of movement knowledge and practice. Here, for example, is The People’s Agreement of Cochabamba’s plan for undoing global climate injustices: pic.twitter.com/Zdvg9LXidn

— Kai Heron (@KaiHeron) August 9, 2021

xyzzzz__, Monday, 9 August 2021 13:35 (two years ago) link

The IPCC report doesn't say it can't be stopped. It says some changes can't be stopped but a fuck tonne of others can.

This is what climate denialism looks like now.https://t.co/ZopeyTsZID

— libcom.org (@libcomorg) August 9, 2021

xyzzzz__, Monday, 9 August 2021 22:25 (two years ago) link

the first part is right.

this is not what climate denialism looks like now

also fuck the new york times

Read between the lines Zach (Karl Malone), Monday, 9 August 2021 22:27 (two years ago) link

I think it's good to widen the definition of climate denialism beyond cranks.

To say this is locked in now is assuring nothing will be done.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 9 August 2021 22:32 (two years ago) link

not picking on you, just an honest q/thought: what good does it do to determine who is the "denialist"? i say this as someone who has used the term "climate denier/denialist" on this thread a million times. but broaden it, narrow it - what good does it do? what good has it done?

don't mistake me for someone who is like "oh please we have to be polite we have to be nice to each other so that we can convince the dumbasses of the world to change their ways" - that was me earlier on this thread, maybe me in the future. but right now - who the fuck cares? they do not care. the deniers. they take that shit as a badge of honor

Read between the lines Zach (Karl Malone), Monday, 9 August 2021 23:20 (two years ago) link

But the ppl who read and nod at the NY times might care, and I think that's the point for me. Climate denialism shouldn't just be a sole terrain of the cranks. Denialism is misinformation, it is to say that all is lost, like that headline.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 08:41 (two years ago) link

Disgraceful and dangerous headline - the vast majority of humanity had no say in any of this https://t.co/RYDqvhgRHm

— Rory Scothorne (@shirkerism) August 9, 2021

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 11:08 (two years ago) link

what a waste of time

Read between the lines Zach (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 11:28 (two years ago) link

caring about that

Read between the lines Zach (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 11:28 (two years ago) link

If you don't care why are you wasting time posting about it?

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 11:30 (two years ago) link

it was 6 am and I was briefly waking up to move myself to bed

Read between the lines Zach (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 16:31 (two years ago) link

Posted while I walked

Read between the lines Zach (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 16:31 (two years ago) link

Posting this while I shit

Read between the lines Zach (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 16:31 (two years ago) link

thinking about subscribing to this...can someone explain to me how it's just a scam that will actually make the problem worse

https://climeworks.com/

frogbs, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 18:42 (two years ago) link

Posting this while I shit

― Read between the lines Zach (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 bookmarkflaglink

Was it a 12 hour shit?

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 19:25 (two years ago) link

Posting this while I shit


sums up social media

beard papa, Wednesday, 11 August 2021 00:16 (two years ago) link

four months pass...

Pour yourself a big cup of Sanka for this one

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/12/13/climate/antarctic-climate-change.html

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 19 December 2021 13:43 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2022/01/will-local-politics-cook-the-planet.html

agggggggggggggggh

Karl Malone, Friday, 28 January 2022 04:24 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Hmm, goverments still not seem to care

| (Latham Green), Sunday, 20 February 2022 01:03 (two years ago) link

Pish. I grant you the caring is scattered, localized, intermittent, and wholly inadequate to the meet the need, but it exists... sporadically, if you hunt for it.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 20 February 2022 01:49 (two years ago) link

“It’s getting to the point where in somebody’s lifetime now, they will notice the difference,”


https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/environment/story/2022-02-18/beach-erosion-sea-rise-san-diego

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 20 February 2022 02:05 (two years ago) link

"fuck earth" government

| (Latham Green), Monday, 21 February 2022 22:29 (two years ago) link

Satellite images show the Amazon rainforest is hurtling toward a ‘tipping point’

Viewed from space, the Amazon rainforest doesn’t look like an ecosystem on the brink. Clouds still coalesce from the breath of some 390 billion trees. Rivers snake their way through what appears to be a sea of endless green.

Yet satellite images taken over the past several decades reveal that more than 75 percent of the rainforest is losing resilience, according to a study published Monday in the journal Nature Climate Change. The vegetation is drier and takes longer to regenerate after a disturbance. Even the most densely forested tracts struggle to bounce back.

This widespread weakness offers an early warning sign that the Amazon is nearing its “tipping point,” the study’s authors say. Amid rising temperatures and other human pressures, the ecosystem could suffer sudden and irreversible dieback. More than half of the rainforest could be converted into savanna in a matter of decades — a transition that would imperil biodiversity, shift regional weather patterns and dramatically accelerate climate change.

Historically, the Amazon has been one of Earth’s most important “carbon sinks,” pulling billions of tons of carbon dioxide from the air and storing it in vegetation. Researchers fear that this carbon’s sudden release would put humanity’s most ambitious climate goal — limiting temperature rise to 1.5 degrees Celsius (2.7 degrees Fahrenheit) — out of reach.

“As a scientist, I am not supposed to have anxiety. But after reading this paper, I am very, very anxious,” said Carlos Nobre, a climate scientist at the University of São Paulo’s Institute of Advanced Studies, who was not involved in the new research. “This paper shows we are moving in the completely wrong direction … If we exceed the tipping point, that’s very bad news.”

you know how the rest goes

the world's undisputed #1 fan of 'Spud Infinity' (Karl Malone), Monday, 7 March 2022 16:11 (two years ago) link

This paper shows we are moving in the completely wrong direction

Put it in the pile with the ten thousand other studies that show the same thing. Until a climate scientist sets herself on fire on the DC Mall in protest the media won't even blink.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 7 March 2022 19:04 (two years ago) link

https://hackaday.com/2022/01/25/would-nuclear-winter-cancel-out-global-warming/

If nuclear winter is indeed possible, as per the modelling shown in several research papers, then in a way, nuclear winter could indeed counteract global warming. In the most shocking results of a full-scale conflict between superpowers, modelling run in 2007 suggests average global temperatures could fall by as much as 8 °C, levelling out to 4 °C after a decade or so. Global warming, on the other hand, is expected to reach a level of 1.5 °C above pre-industrial averages within the next decade or so.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 8 March 2022 02:49 (two years ago) link

^ This is right up there with eugenics and genocide on the list of all time great ideas.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 8 March 2022 04:35 (two years ago) link

when God closes a door...

frogbs, Tuesday, 8 March 2022 04:53 (two years ago) link

wut

BREAKING: One of the crazier extreme weather events we've reported on. Temperatures in eastern Antarctica are 50 to 90 degrees above normal. https://t.co/jksBNnNOpM

— Capital Weather Gang (@capitalweather) March 18, 2022

mookieproof, Saturday, 19 March 2022 13:59 (two years ago) link

Japan’s cherry blossom ‘earliest peak since 812

The cherry blossom season, Japan’s traditional sign of spring, has peaked at the earliest date since records began 1,200 years ago.

The 2021 season in the city of Kyoto peaked on 26 March, according to data collected by Osaka University.

Increasingly early flowerings in recent decades are likely to be a result of climate change, scientists said.

The records from Kyoto go back to 812 AD in imperial court documents and diaries.

The city has experienced an unusually warm spring this year.

The previous record there was set in 1409, when the season reached its peak on 27 March.

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 30 March 2022 14:51 (two years ago) link

Julian 27 March 1409 = Gregorian 05 April 1409

Gregorian 27 March 1409 = Julian 18 March 1409

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

conrad, Wednesday, 30 March 2022 14:56 (two years ago) link

i'd hope that at least one of the researchers took that into account. but then again...

https://i.imgur.com/CEh1yKl.png

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 30 March 2022 15:01 (two years ago) link

i'm just hoping this issue doesn't affect jesus christ's birthday, which happened on dec 25th

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 30 March 2022 15:02 (two years ago) link

Sand trombone at Julian Gregorian discrepancy, the kind of thing I usually like to think about to distract me from this other stuff.

The Central Rockaliser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 30 March 2022 15:04 (two years ago) link

for real, though, the dataset goes back to the year 812, every year, so i'm pretty sure they would notice if the dates suddenly jumped a couple weeks when the calendar systems shifted.

but then again - i do not have access to this top secret data. but i would like to

https://i.imgur.com/BBO6LMj.jpg

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 30 March 2022 15:10 (two years ago) link

that does leave the possibility open that the previous record for earlier blossom peaking was in fact, on christ's date of birth. and not only the wise men in judaea but also some wise men in japan took note, and said "wow, something really important is happening today"

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 30 March 2022 15:12 (two years ago) link

Japan never used the Julian calendar. It was totally closed to westerners until the mid-nineteenth century, when the Gregorian was already in general use.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 30 March 2022 16:28 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

hmm

"If I buy an SUV will it be vandalised by climate protesters?"

Yes. Yes it will.

The @Telegraph tells its readers not to buy SUVs in case we target them.

Our campaign is working. We will make it impossible to own an SUV in the world's urban areas. But only if you join in! pic.twitter.com/IfYnJ2I1rB

— The Tyre Extinguishers (@T_Extinguishers) April 4, 2022

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Friday, 6 May 2022 04:56 (one year ago) link

Was recently thinking about when there was a campaign of smashing windows of SUVs in San Francisco’s Mission District, and how SUVs seem to be widely seen as status symbols by Latino immigrants, and how the Mission District is a rapidly gentrifying area which was historically mostly populated by Latino immigrants.

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Saturday, 7 May 2022 13:59 (one year ago) link

Abstract from https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-022-04788-w

At least 10,000 virus species have the capacity to infect humans, but at present, the vast majority are circulating silently in wild mammals1,2. However, climate and land use change will produce novel opportunities for viral sharing among previously geographically-isolated species of wildlife3,4. In some cases, this will facilitate zoonotic spillover—a mechanistic link between global environmental change and disease emergence. Here, we simulate potential hotspots of future viral sharing, using a phylogeographic model of the mammal-virus network, and projections of geographic range shifts for 3,139 mammal species under climate change and land use scenarios for the year 2070. We predict that species will aggregate in new combinations at high elevations, in biodiversity hotspots, and in areas of high human population density in Asia and Africa, driving the novel cross-species transmission of their viruses an estimated 4,000 times. Because of their unique dispersal capacity, bats account for the majority of novel viral sharing, and are likely to share viruses along evolutionary pathways that will facilitate future emergence in humans. Surprisingly, we find that this ecological transition may already be underway, and holding warming under 2 °C within the century will not reduce future viral sharing. Our findings highlight an urgent need to pair viral surveillance and discovery efforts with biodiversity surveys tracking species’ range shifts, especially in tropical regions that harbor the most zoonoses and are experiencing rapid warming.

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 8 May 2022 04:49 (one year ago) link

Just catching up on this thread, but Aimless, your lathe of heaven needs a tuneup

Put it in the pile with the ten thousand other studies that show the same thing. Until a climate scientist sets herself on fire on the DC Mall in protest the media won't even blink.

― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, March 7, 2022 1:04 PM (two months ago) bookmarkflaglink

Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Monday, 9 May 2022 23:17 (one year ago) link


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