I heard that Swirlies song and was wracking my brain trying to figure out where heard it before and realized I played it quite often on my radio show back in '93.
Here's another that slots right in:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNWel2bx4pM
― righteousmaelstrom, Friday, 30 April 2021 16:49 (three years ago) link
i always kind of considered blind mr. jones in this sub-sub-genre that i've known about, but that you've just given a proper name to. i'll be lurking here. cheers.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 30 April 2021 16:54 (three years ago) link
Does this count?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0CYB5V9e64
― daavid, Friday, 30 April 2021 16:59 (three years ago) link
Tons of Dinosaur Jr. also uses this strumming pattern, which makes sense since timeline-wise they are certainly proto-this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5yxVuNDLmo
― Kangol In The Light (Craig D.), Friday, 30 April 2021 17:02 (three years ago) link
The phrase "shoegaze jangle" just makes me think of 'like a daydream' by ride. also maybe 'everything flows' by teenage fanclub?
― building a hole (NickB), Friday, 30 April 2021 17:14 (three years ago) link
I think this fits?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwyaqfF36LU
― Gavin, Leeds, Friday, 30 April 2021 17:33 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lgtME3JatM
Being used in the new Adam Curtis has this shit *thoroughly* lodged in my brain the past couple weeks.
― nicole, Friday, 30 April 2021 17:37 (three years ago) link
All great examples so far! And yeah songs that feel similar like Everything Flows by Teenage Fanclub or Off Your Face by MBV (feeling like this one could have been a major direct inspiration to a lot of these examples in the shoegaze universe).
Here's another song I've been obsessed with recently:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oh2n6KTVel0
― Evan, Friday, 30 April 2021 18:12 (three years ago) link
Is Strawberry Wine just jangle without the gaze then?
― Legitimate Interest (Noel Emits), Friday, 30 April 2021 18:19 (three years ago) link
How's about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvjMJcN8gh4
(Kairon; IRSE! - Tzar Morei)
― Legitimate Interest (Noel Emits), Friday, 30 April 2021 18:25 (three years ago) link
Matt from Sarah Records got a lot of flak (and even a few death threats, I believe) for releasing this on his label:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_xxa-exv70
― henry s, Friday, 30 April 2021 18:30 (three years ago) link
What about 3/4 iterations of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9Phu8CYdmIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_vx83NcdOw
― 80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Friday, 30 April 2021 18:42 (three years ago) link
actually just buy a bunch of Lush albums
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7cqkpy4QrQ
― 80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Friday, 30 April 2021 18:43 (three years ago) link
There is never a reason not to listen to Lush!
― brimstead, Friday, 30 April 2021 19:02 (three years ago) link
Definitely all close, with Starlust feeling the closest of all the Lush examples so far.
And I love that Golden Dawn song truly but I have to say it's definitely not the specific strum pattern I'm talking about. God I do love Sarah records stuff though. My wife got me some Brighter & Eternal 45s for my birthday recently!
― Evan, Friday, 30 April 2021 19:10 (three years ago) link
maybe this song by The Legends? I recommend the whole album, it gets a ton more Cure-y thoughhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atYivCbPV9Y
― brimstead, Friday, 30 April 2021 19:27 (three years ago) link
That's cool! Sounds like Radio Dept.
― Evan, Friday, 30 April 2021 21:26 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVhNi5cU8mo
― llurk, Friday, 30 April 2021 23:48 (three years ago) link
How could I forget!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRY1_2RVDkI
― Evan, Monday, 17 May 2021 02:21 (two years ago) link
I suspect I love a few songs that belong here and I've just filed them on my hard drive under power pop. Would take a lot of time figuring out which ones are which.
― clemenza, Monday, 17 May 2021 02:35 (two years ago) link
Example: I have four Lilys songs, including the one you posted, which to my ears doesn't sound all that different from this--but maybe there's some crucial difference I don't hear.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXcg66F8-r0
― clemenza, Monday, 17 May 2021 02:45 (two years ago) link
I absolutely LOVE Fudge and was trying to promote them on one of the "lost 90s bands" sort of threads I'd revived not long ago! That song doesn't exactly follow the same strum pattern that I was trying to zero in on specifically here, but the band is definitely a big deal in this little universe of 90s indie I'm obsessed with.
― Evan, Monday, 17 May 2021 03:02 (two years ago) link
That rhythm honestly makes me think of this, which is maybe at the front end of the era of this strum.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWxJEIz7sSA
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 17 May 2021 03:23 (two years ago) link
Yeah I hear it, especially right in the opening
― Evan, Monday, 17 May 2021 18:39 (two years ago) link
is there such a thing as shoegaze jungle
― Left, Monday, 17 May 2021 19:31 (two years ago) link
yes - third eye foundation and 'wonder 2' off the last mbv record
― imago, Monday, 17 May 2021 20:25 (two years ago) link
also shoegaze jungle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt6bIdn2V3w
― building a hole (NickB), Monday, 17 May 2021 20:53 (two years ago) link
I would imagine Guided By Voices/Robert Pollard has about a million of these.
― Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Monday, 17 May 2021 21:01 (two years ago) link
also re: shoegaze jungle, Accelera Deck - narcotic beats
― brimstead, Monday, 17 May 2021 22:26 (two years ago) link
Assume this has been talked about somewhere on here.
In 2023, shoegaze is bigger than ever. Major label signees, unprecedented Billboard charts, record streaming figures, and mainstream visibility. The sound, look, and reach of the genre are changing. And TikTok is the engine. My analysis for @stereogum.https://t.co/f4V3exuPpJ— Eli (@eli_enis) December 18, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 26 December 2023 11:54 (four months ago) link
tbh I've never really known what is meant by shoegaze. It's just indie rock surely?
― The Italian Yob (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 December 2023 12:16 (four months ago) link
I mis-read this thread title as 'Shoegaze Jungle'.
― you gotta roll with the pΔ czki to get to what's real (snoball), Tuesday, 26 December 2023 12:22 (four months ago) link
xp indie rock with guitar processed into textures, and vocals mixed lower than guitars often
― assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 26 December 2023 12:31 (four months ago) link
genre name obviously highlighting the centrality of effects pedals to the sound
― assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 26 December 2023 12:32 (four months ago) link
Sounds like indie rock to me.
― The Italian Yob (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 December 2023 13:42 (four months ago) link
can someone show me a NEW shoegaze band
― π ππ’π¨ (caek), Tuesday, 26 December 2023 14:03 (four months ago) link
Correct assumption!
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 26 December 2023 17:56 (four months ago) link
xp sounds like you may not have heard a wide range of indie rock?
― assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 26 December 2023 19:14 (four months ago) link
xxxp
This is what I've got from recent years that include both tags:
1. Flyying Colours β You Never Know (Poison City, 2023) 2. Alvvays β Blue Rev (Transgressive, 2022) 3. Drop Nineteens β Hard Light (Wharf Cat, 2023) 4. Soft Kill β Dead Kids, R.I.P. City (Cercel Social, 2020) 5. Soft Science β Lines (Shelflife, 2023) 6. Hatchie β Giving the World Away (Secretly Canadian, 2022)7. Say Sue Me β The Last Thing Left (Damnably, 2022)
― Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 26 December 2023 19:50 (four months ago) link
Not recently. I kind of suspect people make up genre names because they're embarrassed to admit they are fans of indie.
― The Italian Yob (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 December 2023 20:49 (four months ago) link
why do you suspect that
― brimstead, Tuesday, 26 December 2023 21:04 (four months ago) link
Iβm very much in favour of indie rock, I just donβt think the Shins are shoegaze
― assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 26 December 2023 22:13 (four months ago) link
(xp) I'm a bit out of touch, is indie rock considered good again?
― The Italian Yob (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 December 2023 22:32 (four months ago) link
yeah itβs been getting a lot better, actually, gen z bands have way better taste
― brimstead, Tuesday, 26 December 2023 22:49 (four months ago) link
yeah there's nothing distinctive about the way my bloody valentine sound compared to generic 'indie rock'
― ufo, Tuesday, 26 December 2023 23:17 (four months ago) link
*side-eyes*
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 December 2023 00:10 (four months ago) link
more like *eye roll* re: this whole tangent
shoegaze has been an easily recognizable style of guitar rock with distinctive qualities for three decades
― alpine static, Wednesday, 27 December 2023 00:27 (four months ago) link
I kind of suspect people make up genre names because they're embarrassed to admit they are fans of indie.
β The Italian Yob (Tom D.), Tuesday, December 26, 2023 3:49 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
this feels like a very ilx-bubble sort of comment...
― Evan, Wednesday, 27 December 2023 15:57 (four months ago) link
Very probably, I blame years of entrenched ILX indie-hatred.
― The Italian Yob (Tom D.), Wednesday, 27 December 2023 16:00 (four months ago) link
I'm sure we could recommend some albums based on what you already like, if you were open to giving it a shot.
― Evan, Wednesday, 27 December 2023 16:13 (four months ago) link