What happened to LUSH?

I don't love the new single (Miki's vocals, mainly) but I like the production so I am looking forward to the new the album. I rarely want to hear more guitar on anything, but when Moose is involved they're always welcome.

Miki's book, out in September

https://www.resident-music.com/productdetails&product_id=89610

nice cover..

https://drsw10gc90t0z.cloudfront.net/AcuCustom/Sitename/DAM/402/thumbnail_Miki_Cover_Final_190422.jpg

Could be good.

Preordered, thx for tip!

Just got this

It sounds very frank and unglamorous from the press pieces I’ve been reading. Apparently Emma was really unhappy with it. Pretty courageous to talk about the insider shit of the business, it’s both gross and all-too-familiar.

where did you hear Emma was unhappy with it? They don't get on at all anyway, do they?

I was going to say, the reunion ended poorly by all accounts.

We can like them both, can't we? I'd hate to think there was a baddie in that relationship.

Never mind meeting your heroes, don't check who they follow on Twitter

The Times piece mentioned Emma's reaction - I can't access it any more: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/miki-berenyi-i-can-tell-the-truth-because-im-outside-it-all-now-gcpgfzvxc

https://wearecult.rocks/miki-berenyi-interview

there's other interviews where she mentions that emma's unhappy with the book & that they fell out after the reunion.

"Never mind meeting your heroes, don't check who they follow on Twitter" oh yeah she follows like every awful terf feminist in the UK I noticed one day. she never comments on or likes that stuff though.

damn, unfortunately all too common with uk musicians

uk celebs of any sort really

is this out? If only there had been any press around it being released I might have seen it eh?!

I mean I know I'm being very glib around this but there's something that rubs me the wrong way about this being positioned as, like, an outsider misfit narrative of the music industry, then me reading about it in every major UK publication for the past fortnight.

Wait, which one's the terf?

berenyi

well, that's a bummer. Jesus.

isn't it a bit of a stretch to assume that someone shares all the opinions of people they follow on Twitter?

No, that's a good point. My method of using twitter doesn't involve hate-following anyone, but some people do.

that's a lot of hate-following

comfortable making the stretch tbh

same. I can imagine she’s not liking or retweeting any of it because of the book launch.

Hmmm. I'm not terribly familiar with the UK terf pile, but I scrolled through the people she's following. Picked out those who had some form of feminist in bio (as well as a few others who leaped out as being "controversial") and then googled them to assess terfiness. In cases where these people were definitely terfs, for the most part, Miki was their only follower that I shared (although sometimes joined by Norman Blake from Teenage Fanclub!). And I do follow a number of UK-based accounts, so you'd think there would be a greater overlap if it was just based on hate-reading or just a passing interest.

i suppose someone could just ask her on twitter if you feel like doing that. I do not.

Norman Blake also follows loads of terfs yes

Fannies drummer has ratcheted down from terfy tweeting to just terfy follows iirc

I’ve followed her for about 2 years and not seen anything related to gender at all, and she quite often posts after a couple of drinks when you’d expect the filters are down (and appear to be). If she holds those views she’s at least covert about it.

There are lots of people on Twitter who followed some feminist / culture writers a decade ago, and have not kept up to date with the discourse because it must be tempting to mute or ignore the discourse, think we can all appreciate that. if you have a look at her follows, the dodgy ones are all near the bottom of the list. you can imagine a decade ago encountering someone like helen lewis as a journalist writing a book about feminist history and that's about it, HL was even on adam buxton's podcast, have not listened to it but imagine the terf stuff is left out entirely. Not everyone is up to date with this stuff.

a huge reason why a lot of these TERF writers are so well-regarded by establishment media is that they were popular/successful/seemingly decent people in the 90s. I imagine it's like the people I have on Facebook who I met once at a house party ten years ago and never got round to deleting after discovering they're rabid anti-vaxxers, then again it's all just speculation isn't it

yeah at least berenyi isn't obsessively tweeting about it but it's not at all a good sign

yeah i guess it was all a big accident

She'll make it ok with a duet with Dame Edna called "Accidental TERF."

Installing Shinigami Eyes will save you a lot of bother

Deleting Twitter will save you even more bother! Biggest positive change to my life in 2022. Not exaggerating.

Interview on a prog rock blog!
http://progsheet1.hypermart.net/mikiberenyi2022.html

I still haven’t bought Miki Berenyi’s memoir, but I have read several of the publicity interviews. Naturally, I was shocked by the whole “being molested by her grandmother” thing, because I remember fan discussions back in the 1990s expressing puzzlement over the “woman with silver hair” line in “Kiss Chase”, and concluding that it surely couldn’t be a sexual thing. Ugh, it was.

Is there any survey of critical appraisal of Ben Watt’s post-EBTG career in dance music? Around 1999 I was getting into both UK progressive house and IDM, and by comparison I found the timbres and flow of the particular tunes that Watts had chosen to take up, clumsy and plodding. Was my disappointment shared, or were people really moved by his new thing?

Sorry, wrong thread for that, I'll ask a mod to fix it.

dunno but I like his solo albums with bernard butler a fair amount

I got the memoir from my library! not started it yet though.

Reading her book - still in childhood and it's pretty dark so far

Me too, and I have just found out that she is Keigo Oyamada/Cornelius' second cousin, wild.

Wait, what?

It's in the book, yeah

I'm just getting to a bit about "Gene" and I fervently wish Miki would start a thread about him on here.
"My favourite Gene anecdote is when he starts putting it about that he has carried out a paternity test proving that he fathered Ashton Kutcher during an affair. When I point out that Kutcher is, in fact, a twin, Gene doubles down on the lie, only claiming responsibility for 'Ashton's side of the womb'."

Emma Anderson goes solo!

https://pitchfork.com/news/lushs-emma-anderson-announces-debut-solo-album-pearlies-shares-new-song-listen/