I have had it up to here waiting for the Beatles catalogue to be remastered

It's because the copyright has lapsed. They still have to pay publishing charges though.

Something like that, anyway

Track 1 - Original Version Ringo Starr on Drums,

Ringo Starr 1.0!

what a weird hodgepodge of stuff. most of that is, I'm quite certain, already available. I wish there's be a really comprehensive set of lapsed copyright releases that make sense and don't make a jumble of their contents.

https://deadline.com/2021/06/the-beatles-get-back-peter-jackson-disney-six-hour-documentary-three-day-thanksgiving-debut-1234777028/

Peter Jackson’s ‘The Beatles: Get Back’ Six-Hour (!) Doc Set For Three-Day Thanksgiving Debut On Disney+

Get Back will also be released as a .mp4 on torrent sites on the day after Thanksgiving, i'll be catching it there

Three-Day Thanksgiving Debut On Disney+

Naaa, na na nanana naa,
Nanana naa,
FUCK OFF.

― mike t-diva, Sunday, December 5, 2010 1:10 PM (ten years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Happy birthday Ringo! 81 today.

That mono box set they released in 2009 is possibly the single most prized release I have in my entire record collection. Not for monetary value, just for having nearly everything they did, in the right mixes and probably the best sound quality I can hope for without breaking the bank. Add the stereo-only stuff like Abbey Road, my own version of Get Back spliced together from the best official releases, and "The Ballad of John and Yoko"/"Old Brown Shoe" single, and that pretty much covers every song they released before they split.

Not only “without breaking the bank” — even the nerds on the Hoffman forum say there’s no point in seeking out original pressings if you have these.

If they did a stereo box with the same attention to detail, SQ, & pressing quality, I’d be on it in a heartbeat— never mind that I DO NOT NEED 2 copies of their entire discography FFS.

the 09 mono box is so fucking expensive now

This guy makes a lot of videos about the endless variations in Beatles pressings and seems to know his stuff, I know he's made videos about from what sources are best to compile a collection -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9la3gK9jHbg

Yeah, the 2014 mono vinyl is beginning to approach OG-press levels of $, so it will still break the bank. Altho as late as last year I picked up a copy locally for $500, which I then flipped of course.

The advantage it still has over OG pressings is that you’re more likely to be able to find copies in excellent condition, or even sealed.

And if you’re into CDs, the 09 CDs sound just as great & can be had for only slightly more than a (northern) song.

His best Beatles drumming imo.

If they did a stereo box with the same attention to detail, SQ, & pressing quality, I’d be on it in a heartbeat— never mind that I DO NOT NEED 2 copies of their entire discography FFS.

With the CD's, if they wanted to, they could've fit the stereo and mono mixes on to every single CD they had of their proper albums, just as they did with Help! and Rubber Soul. (IIRC those were exceptions because the standalone stereo CD's were digital remixes made for the '80s reissues, not the original LP stereo mixes.) The only part of the mono box that would need additional discs if they added the stereo versions would be the Mono Masters set, which you'd basically supplement with its double-disc stereo predecessor, Past Masters.

If CD's ever bounce back (or if they want to do something like a hi-res SACD, DVD-A, Blu-ray, whatever), I'd like to see a box set like that - something like The Complete Beatles focused on the UK editions and disregarding post-breakup releases.

You'd have eight CD's with the first eight albums in both mono and stereo mixes, four more covering the White Album in both mono and stereo (forgot that in my previous post - that would need additional discs), one with the UK double-EP of Magical Mystery Tour in both mono and stereo, one with the stereo only Abbey Road, one with both Phil Spector's Let It Be and Glyn Johns's final-but-still-rejected iteration of Get Back, and then two CD's replicating Mono Masters with the addition of the singles tacked on to the US Magical Mystery Tour LP (sequenced chronologically in their rightful place) and another two that would mirror Mono Masters but in stereo (like an expanded Past Masters). Should be 19 discs in all.

Given the state of vinyl pressing, I think that CD bounce back might come a little ahead of schedule. Considering pressing delays are already over a year in many cases and that's BEFORE Amazon starts strongarming every pressing plant on the globe to press 800,000 new copies of Rumours for their new subscription service.

i cant remember if it is being discussed elsewhere but is anyone watching the Rubin/McCartney series on hulu “3 2 1”?

i’ve watched 2 episodes so far & really enjoying it. left me a little verklempt at times which was unexpected

i was secondhand embarrassed at “old dudes grooving to old dude music” at first but fucking hell it is very charming

the musicology stuff is really interesting & i think macca at his most engaging. i keep thinking i’d love to see macca in a teaching setting maybe? or give guest lectures to music students or something idk

Really enjoy Rick Rubin on his regular spot on M Gladwell’s podcast. He has a good way about letting the guest shine but asking a probing question where necessary to move things along. V interested to hear him w/Macca

dipped into a couple eps of the Hulu show. I like it best when it's in knob-sliding land, which yields a lotta little genuine surprises and stories i hadn't heard. they accidentally uncover a terrible strangled high note of Paul's somewhere... Lucy in the Sky I think? and his reaction seems very genuine and cute. elsewhere Rubin does too much nodding at stories i've heard a million times. fine to film all that, but i'd personally love a special episode of just the "fresh" stuff.

yeah the problem with Macca's intw is that for anyone who has already been through all the "classic" stories, it can get very tedious. I wonder how he doesn't bore himself to death telling the same old things over and over. That's part of the job (of being a legend), I guess !

It's been some years since I've steeped myself in Beatles lore so I'd forgotten some of those stories (like Thinking of Linking). But yeah that high note in Lucy in the Sky (Paul: "that's why we don't go back to the tapes")! I've watched half so far and it's great, I would watch 25 hours of this.

I really liked his bit at the piano and his discussion of songwriting. As a musician you'd think I'd pay attention when other musicians discuss stuff like this but I generally don't; what I appreciate about McCartney is that he flat out says he doesn't know the names of chords, doesn't read music, and just fucks around until things sound right, which validates my process. That stuff at the piano was great, so simple, and yet at the end he writes something that sounds like a McCartney hit, and it's the same finger positions up and down the keyboard

yeah i loved that too!

old dudes rock

is my alternate name for this show

but i'm really enjoying it anyway

has anyone hit any parts where he talks at all about Wings tracks? feels vanishingly unlikely but was teased in the onscreen blurb.

yep he talks in ep 2 about recording Band on the Run in Lagos — he also talked about Waterfall from McCartney II so seems like theyre going to mix in a bit of everything

i do like how it’s not going through the eras chronologically, gives it a looser feel

oh cool, i'll jump back and check that out! thanks.

I liked the bit on Waterfalls because he says he thought he made a mistake not using real strings and Rubin was like "no the synth strings are what make it special" and McCartney was like "that's great because I can have a regret and be completely wrong about it"

(Rubin is correct IMO, like everything else on that album the synth stuff is what makes it work). I heard he talks about Check My Machine later too.

I plan to finally digitize and sell off the CDs while I can get 'em for at least $4+ each back.

― donut Get Behind Me Carbon Dioxide (donut), Wednesday, September 7, 2005 4:15 PM (fifteen years ago)

ah, 2005

The problem, of course, is that CDs are too expensive. (Solution: buy old LPs.)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, April 13, 2006 1:31 PM (fifteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

ah, 2006

lol yes

LOL. CD's are ridiculously cheap now, especially used - if you still want them, it's definitely a buyer's market. The box sets alone are worth it - I'm finding excellent copies of four or five-disc major label box sets for less than $20, in some cases as little as $10 (like MCA's great Patsy Cline box set).

This McCartney series is kind of blowing my mind. And watching him fucking with the faders on "Back In The U.S.S.R." is hilarious.

that moment where they discover a strangled high note in the tapes (cant quite remeber which song, from sgt pepper maybe?) & mccartney’s like THATS why we dont dig into the tapes was v funny

cited as Lucy In The Sky upthread :)

i haven't seen this moment yet, but when it happens i'm going to try to say "THAT's why we don't dig into the tapes" at the same time as macca

lol

you will know exactly when to say that because that strangled note is NOT understated

Oh, the other thing that was cool isolated were the background vocals of dear prudence which I'd never noticed were held for so fucking long without a breath

When they're listening to "Maxwell's," Paul is happy to point out that he couldn't have played those piano arpeggios, which he assumes were played by George Martin. He forgets to point out, however, that it's George Harrison playing the tuba-like bass that Rubin praises.

xpost re prudence

yeah that was incredible & the explanation was v funny too - because it was fun!

sometimes you forget they’re in their 20’s and just want to try stuff for fun/competition

Loved It, watched them all in a 2-day binge (they're only 30m each, TBF).

One of my favourite revelations, if you can call it that, is how odd and counter-intuitive some of the juxtapositions are. E.g. they isolate the bass on Dear Prudence, which has this distorted percussive attack, and they play it with just the drums, and RR notes that if you heard only these bits, you'd think it was a straighahead rock song. But instead, it's set against this dreamy woozy folk, and it's the odd combination that makes it sound like the Beatles. Maybe an obvious point for people who've studied them, but for me this was a fun insight.

finished final episode today
goddamn what a great series

i feel like i am among friends & can safely admit i cried during the “here there & everywhere” segment. i dont know why exactly. except i think it’s that thing i had watching the beegees doc, the palpable undercurrent of loss & creating something that outlives you

also i loved the wide-eyed, wonderous way he talked about the magic of “Yesterday” coming to him in a dream, fully forme.

love your posts on this, VG. wanna watch this through your eyes when i pick it up again.

Yeah you sold me on this, vg

it’s weird because it’s still macca as we know him, claiming ownership left & right, trotting out stories we’ve heard

but it hits different in this context. claiming ownership now looks more like seeking approval. like he’s fkn paul mccartney of the beatles but he still has this part of himself that needs affirmation that he’s good

rick will say “wow this part here is incredible” & a few moments there’s this beat where mccartney has this look like “oh! yeah? you think so?” like a) how is this happening and b) ok i love this man

just seeing him a little bit smaller, a little bit more human, it just makes me feel like i wasn’t wrong for feeling like he was maligned sometimes for aspects of his personality that are inherent to what makes him great

also everything they say about george martin comes from this v familial place, and ive always known this but seeing it laid out - like he really was not just a teacher but a kind of unattainable father to them all. it blows my mind that they were brought together <3

Damn I don't want to pay for Hulu but y'all are pushing me toward it.

I admit that the Philip Norman book poisoned me on Paul from an early age, but the older I get the more I love him, despite all you rightly say about his monomania and neediness. And yes, Here There and Everywhere is just so beautiful.

(On another note, does anyone think we'll get the second volume of the Mark Lewisohn, say, during the Biden presidency?)

i dunno. based on what he’s saying it sounds like it could be 5 years or more, easily.

i mean, writing the first one took long enouuh & that’s all pre-studio. imagine the insane archive he’s wading through now, nevermind interviews etc.