https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-R4gSeY0XtY
very black mile, gorgeous song
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 April 2021 14:27 (two years ago) link
it's out there
holy cow "inaudible" sounds incredible
― intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Thursday, 29 April 2021 13:36 (two years ago) link
heard a new song on the radio, was really good
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 April 2021 13:45 (two years ago) link
oh wow the second half is A Moon Shaped Pool-core emo, here for this
― intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Thursday, 29 April 2021 14:00 (two years ago) link
or at least that's how "dinosaur" struck me
― intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Thursday, 29 April 2021 14:01 (two years ago) link
this is the best album ever
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 29 April 2021 14:03 (two years ago) link
Lol. Is it out tomorrow then?
― groovypanda, Thursday, 29 April 2021 14:54 (two years ago) link
'tis
― intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Thursday, 29 April 2021 14:56 (two years ago) link
surprising no one, i discovered today that i've been really underrating simple math since it came out― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson)
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson)
Brad, the first time I listened to Simple Math, I cried. Great album, great title track, great music video.
Man, I'm so glad that I've (finally) Got Friends that like Manchester Orchestra. Andy Hull is one of my favorite musicians alive, and I really love how distinct his voice is. Then again, I also love Coheed and Cambria and many people find Claudio difficult to listen to.
And I'm so behind that I didn't realize that he had a side project with freakin' Kevin Devine.
― hourspass, Thursday, 29 April 2021 19:05 (two years ago) link
this album is so rad. i a/b’d it with black mile today, i think black mile is so close to a platonically perfect album from these guys for me that it’s hard to measure up, like... “the moth” and “lead, sd” are like these rocking engines of dread and i’m still totally blown away by them. and “the grocery” and “the mistake” are the two best manchester orchestra songs of all time
but this album comes really fucking close. my favorite is “obstacle” and i cannot believe they managed to hit this balance between inward acoustic guitar stuff and full prog bridges but that’s what really impresses me about “dinosaur” and “obstacle”
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 30 April 2021 02:34 (two years ago) link
Cope/Hope -> Black Mile felt like a seismic shift to me, just a huge shift in scale and level of execution. this otoh feels more like Black Mile II than I was expecting, and not just because of the little reprises. andy is such a confident singer now that, ironically, it leads me to pay more attention to the lyrics, and his constant first-person passionate stadium yearning feels like it has sacrificed a bit of specificity. but it's v v good and the songs you cite show some real growth. otoh I would absolutely kill for a whole album of "keel timing" / "bed head" style actual pop-adjacent stuff, those are amazing songs
― intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Friday, 30 April 2021 03:18 (two years ago) link
i don’t even really know the details of the overlapping recursively constructed storylines on black mile but relistening to the record today i was taken aback by how emotionally devastating certain lines from that record are, often bc they seem to revolve around this inexorable horrible thing happening or having happened. ugh what a powerful album. glad i made a thread for it lol
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 30 April 2021 03:36 (two years ago) link
yeah I never even remotely grokked the "concept" of that album (even by concept album standards, hull's are super vague and evasive to me) but it's incredibly cohesive, and feels unified by the "you can't take it with you" theme. it's not clear to me what the driving force of this one is by comparison, though I did read about the grief angle.
― intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Friday, 30 April 2021 04:10 (two years ago) link
I doubt we'll get a better *sounding* rock record this year, I will say that. this thing sparkles!
― intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Friday, 30 April 2021 04:13 (two years ago) link
fun to see you on my other music message board, simon. the quality of discourse there really makes ilx look like the fucking algonquin table in comparison
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 30 April 2021 14:12 (two years ago) link
hahaha yeah it is WILD there huh? I'm just getting the lay of the land
― intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Friday, 30 April 2021 14:18 (two years ago) link
it’s really nice that we don’t talk about vinyl variants constantly here
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 30 April 2021 14:19 (two years ago) link
I got drunk and listened to this last night and MAN, this album flowed beautifully. Felt very complete as an album, but Manchester Orchestra usually doesn't miss as far as album building. Every single song fits perfectly.
― hourspass, Friday, 30 April 2021 17:47 (two years ago) link
where's the other board? i wanna check it out
― alpine static, Friday, 30 April 2021 17:52 (two years ago) link
no it’s better that you don’t know
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 30 April 2021 17:54 (two years ago) link
well, it may not be quite as good as black mile to me but i'm fully obsessed with this record
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 3 May 2021 20:07 (two years ago) link
"keel timing" is such a banger and i don't think i fully recognized that before i heard the whole thing
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 3 May 2021 20:17 (two years ago) link
I feel you, Brad. I don't know if I happened to be in the right headspace for this album (Million Masks, I mean) to really resonate in me, but MAN, I've found myself drifting back to it over and over this weekend and listening to it IN ITS ENTIRETY.
― hourspass, Monday, 3 May 2021 20:19 (two years ago) link
"let it storm" -> "dinosaur" -> "obstacle" -> "way back," aka the sequence where every song seems to be even better than the last
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 3 May 2021 20:37 (two years ago) link
omg this album. the back to back of "keel timing" and "bed head"!
― Tim F, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 08:20 (two years ago) link
"obstacle" is just lovely.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 08:29 (two years ago) link
the guitar solo in "the internet"!
― Tim F, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 08:43 (two years ago) link
one of my favorite moments on the record def
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 15:57 (two years ago) link
once again playing this record and thinking "wow i sure love this record"
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 16:03 (two years ago) link
first few listens to this album i would get "keel timing" stuck in my head and then it would morph into "bed head," which, the two songs are similar by design, and there are several twinned songs on this record ("dinosaur" and "obstacle" are two others imo) and even between this record and black mile ("the mistake" seems to get revived in a different register at the end of "angel of death"; "the internet" is clearly a variation on "the silence," also i think the song titles are meant to be opposites which makes me lol). i was unsure how i felt about this at first, like, shouldn't these songs have more of their own identity, but i've found that it's really drawn me in deeper to the world of the record
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 May 2021 16:43 (two years ago) link
oh the verses of "annie" also seems to rhyme with "the mistake"
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 May 2021 16:44 (two years ago) link
i guess you'd think all these inter-song echoes would make the world of each record feel narrower but it actually makes it bigger, like the low-key mysticism people find in coincidence
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 May 2021 16:49 (two years ago) link
I can't help but long for a little more specificity in Andy's lyrics...like I would never have had any idea about the "concept" aspects were it not for extramusical interview chatter and internet speculation. mostly I hear a lot of first-person angst from a bunch of undifferentiated "characters"
ironically I think I notice this more now because he's grown so much as a vocalist
― intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Thursday, 6 May 2021 16:52 (two years ago) link
the concept of the album is not as huge and ranging as a black mile, it is just about contending with death afaict... it makes it less impressive(?) lyrically but some of it still really strikes me ("daddy's at the hospital / the gator finally got him")
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 May 2021 17:00 (two years ago) link
i guess i'm going through the whole discography again
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 May 2021 19:47 (two years ago) link
That's not a bad idea. Listening to Mean Everything To Nothing is good for me anytime and all the time.
― hourspass, Thursday, 6 May 2021 21:38 (two years ago) link
i’m like a virgin is a really good record but the production... isn’t amazing. very 2006 dry and brittle indie rock tones. annoyed that the acoustic tracks are mastered at a different volume than the rest of the record. i know people who still think is their best, which i think i understand... there’s this eerie open-ended feeling that persists through the second half. but it’s also just a little rickety compared to the fully-formed albums that come after it. maybe i’d feel different if i’d heard it at the time, i only got into it in the last few years
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 May 2021 22:03 (two years ago) link
i've been listening to mean everything to nothing since 2009 (i checked it out because i saw manchester orchestra open for brand new in san jose and ... didn't quite know if i liked them or not) so it's hard for me to think any new things about it. it's a really great record, production is incredible, guitar tones are perfect warm buzzes especially on "in my teeth" and they start doing that built to spill-esque overdriven dual guitar effect i love dearly on both this album and simple math. really weirdly constructed, it shifts gears about five times in the opening run and then settles into a kind of suite of gentle epics in the second half from "i can feel a hot one" to "the river." i read an interview with hull where he said he recorded the vocals when he was sick so they would sound as shredded as possible so now i can't stop thinking about that when i'm listening, thanks andy
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 7 May 2021 00:45 (two years ago) link
Surprised there's been no Pitchfork review of this yet
― groovypanda, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 10:01 (two years ago) link
still listening to this like once a day
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 13 May 2021 13:27 (two years ago) link
"bed head" song of the year
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 13 May 2021 14:03 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fj2hSxy8kbU
― groovypanda, Saturday, 22 May 2021 20:56 (two years ago) link
Really liking this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrAURfbK8Ls
― groovypanda, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 07:58 (two years ago) link
new MO number for a DC soundtrack thingie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OMpofOS85o
― intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 13:48 (two years ago) link
this might be a controversial opinion but I think Million Masks is even greater record than A Black Mile to the Surface? It doesn't have highlights like "Lead, SD", but as a whole I think it flows better.
― braised cod, Tuesday, 22 June 2021 18:11 (two years ago) link
ha, I almost revived this thread to say that on recent revisit I felt an emptiness/hollowness that's difficult to put my finger on, I think it's mainly that I'm struggling to connect with the lyrics. I think by the end I'm also a little worn out by the roaring climaxes
― intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Tuesday, 22 June 2021 18:16 (two years ago) link
i think i might agree it’s even better than the last one
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 22 June 2021 18:25 (two years ago) link
it's unreal how good this album is
― uberweiss, Sunday, 8 August 2021 11:23 (two years ago) link
if you like this record i also recommend the new foxing
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 August 2021 12:12 (two years ago) link
loving that too
one year i'd like not to have the exact same year end list as you but btwn this, foxing, wolf alice, the maine & pale waves, i don't think this will be that year
― uberweiss, Sunday, 8 August 2021 13:15 (two years ago) link