I have had it up to here waiting for the Beatles catalogue to be remastered

Peter Doggett's You Never Give Me Your Money is a compact exploration of their lives after the split, that conveys a lot of the emotional ties and barriers between the members post-1970. You have to be willing to allow him to refer to Ringo as "Starkey" throughout, however.

When I worked in the newsroom of the British Library, Mark Lewisohn was in there all the time, ordering copies of the Bootle News & Journal from March 1963 or whatever.

You Never Give Me Your Money is great - but also kind of a bummer.

Yes, exactly.

There's a wee sub-genre of respectable books about the post-1970 years

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41NSZ8YTH5L._SX309_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

Kind of ultimately depressing to read about and yet since we already knew something was up might as well get the unvarnished truth.

Who's that on the cover, Bud Cort?

:D

Lol

*imagegoogle*

lol

This is a bootleg, right?

https://codarecords.co.uk/collections/beatles-the-collection/products/beatles-in-the-studio-in-concert-1962-1966-4-album-collection-on-10-inch-vinyl-148-page-book?variant=39458843033755

It's because the copyright has lapsed. They still have to pay publishing charges though.

Something like that, anyway

Track 1 - Original Version Ringo Starr on Drums,

Ringo Starr 1.0!

what a weird hodgepodge of stuff. most of that is, I'm quite certain, already available. I wish there's be a really comprehensive set of lapsed copyright releases that make sense and don't make a jumble of their contents.

https://deadline.com/2021/06/the-beatles-get-back-peter-jackson-disney-six-hour-documentary-three-day-thanksgiving-debut-1234777028/

Peter Jackson’s ‘The Beatles: Get Back’ Six-Hour (!) Doc Set For Three-Day Thanksgiving Debut On Disney+

Get Back will also be released as a .mp4 on torrent sites on the day after Thanksgiving, i'll be catching it there

Three-Day Thanksgiving Debut On Disney+

Naaa, na na nanana naa,
Nanana naa,
FUCK OFF.

― mike t-diva, Sunday, December 5, 2010 1:10 PM (ten years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Happy birthday Ringo! 81 today.

That mono box set they released in 2009 is possibly the single most prized release I have in my entire record collection. Not for monetary value, just for having nearly everything they did, in the right mixes and probably the best sound quality I can hope for without breaking the bank. Add the stereo-only stuff like Abbey Road, my own version of Get Back spliced together from the best official releases, and "The Ballad of John and Yoko"/"Old Brown Shoe" single, and that pretty much covers every song they released before they split.

Not only “without breaking the bank” — even the nerds on the Hoffman forum say there’s no point in seeking out original pressings if you have these.

If they did a stereo box with the same attention to detail, SQ, & pressing quality, I’d be on it in a heartbeat— never mind that I DO NOT NEED 2 copies of their entire discography FFS.

the 09 mono box is so fucking expensive now

This guy makes a lot of videos about the endless variations in Beatles pressings and seems to know his stuff, I know he's made videos about from what sources are best to compile a collection -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9la3gK9jHbg

Yeah, the 2014 mono vinyl is beginning to approach OG-press levels of $, so it will still break the bank. Altho as late as last year I picked up a copy locally for $500, which I then flipped of course.

The advantage it still has over OG pressings is that you’re more likely to be able to find copies in excellent condition, or even sealed.

And if you’re into CDs, the 09 CDs sound just as great & can be had for only slightly more than a (northern) song.

His best Beatles drumming imo.

If they did a stereo box with the same attention to detail, SQ, & pressing quality, I’d be on it in a heartbeat— never mind that I DO NOT NEED 2 copies of their entire discography FFS.

With the CD's, if they wanted to, they could've fit the stereo and mono mixes on to every single CD they had of their proper albums, just as they did with Help! and Rubber Soul. (IIRC those were exceptions because the standalone stereo CD's were digital remixes made for the '80s reissues, not the original LP stereo mixes.) The only part of the mono box that would need additional discs if they added the stereo versions would be the Mono Masters set, which you'd basically supplement with its double-disc stereo predecessor, Past Masters.

If CD's ever bounce back (or if they want to do something like a hi-res SACD, DVD-A, Blu-ray, whatever), I'd like to see a box set like that - something like The Complete Beatles focused on the UK editions and disregarding post-breakup releases.

You'd have eight CD's with the first eight albums in both mono and stereo mixes, four more covering the White Album in both mono and stereo (forgot that in my previous post - that would need additional discs), one with the UK double-EP of Magical Mystery Tour in both mono and stereo, one with the stereo only Abbey Road, one with both Phil Spector's Let It Be and Glyn Johns's final-but-still-rejected iteration of Get Back, and then two CD's replicating Mono Masters with the addition of the singles tacked on to the US Magical Mystery Tour LP (sequenced chronologically in their rightful place) and another two that would mirror Mono Masters but in stereo (like an expanded Past Masters). Should be 19 discs in all.

Given the state of vinyl pressing, I think that CD bounce back might come a little ahead of schedule. Considering pressing delays are already over a year in many cases and that's BEFORE Amazon starts strongarming every pressing plant on the globe to press 800,000 new copies of Rumours for their new subscription service.

i cant remember if it is being discussed elsewhere but is anyone watching the Rubin/McCartney series on hulu “3 2 1”?

i’ve watched 2 episodes so far & really enjoying it. left me a little verklempt at times which was unexpected

i was secondhand embarrassed at “old dudes grooving to old dude music” at first but fucking hell it is very charming

the musicology stuff is really interesting & i think macca at his most engaging. i keep thinking i’d love to see macca in a teaching setting maybe? or give guest lectures to music students or something idk

Really enjoy Rick Rubin on his regular spot on M Gladwell’s podcast. He has a good way about letting the guest shine but asking a probing question where necessary to move things along. V interested to hear him w/Macca

dipped into a couple eps of the Hulu show. I like it best when it's in knob-sliding land, which yields a lotta little genuine surprises and stories i hadn't heard. they accidentally uncover a terrible strangled high note of Paul's somewhere... Lucy in the Sky I think? and his reaction seems very genuine and cute. elsewhere Rubin does too much nodding at stories i've heard a million times. fine to film all that, but i'd personally love a special episode of just the "fresh" stuff.

yeah the problem with Macca's intw is that for anyone who has already been through all the "classic" stories, it can get very tedious. I wonder how he doesn't bore himself to death telling the same old things over and over. That's part of the job (of being a legend), I guess !

It's been some years since I've steeped myself in Beatles lore so I'd forgotten some of those stories (like Thinking of Linking). But yeah that high note in Lucy in the Sky (Paul: "that's why we don't go back to the tapes")! I've watched half so far and it's great, I would watch 25 hours of this.

I really liked his bit at the piano and his discussion of songwriting. As a musician you'd think I'd pay attention when other musicians discuss stuff like this but I generally don't; what I appreciate about McCartney is that he flat out says he doesn't know the names of chords, doesn't read music, and just fucks around until things sound right, which validates my process. That stuff at the piano was great, so simple, and yet at the end he writes something that sounds like a McCartney hit, and it's the same finger positions up and down the keyboard

yeah i loved that too!

old dudes rock

is my alternate name for this show

but i'm really enjoying it anyway

has anyone hit any parts where he talks at all about Wings tracks? feels vanishingly unlikely but was teased in the onscreen blurb.

yep he talks in ep 2 about recording Band on the Run in Lagos — he also talked about Waterfall from McCartney II so seems like theyre going to mix in a bit of everything

i do like how it’s not going through the eras chronologically, gives it a looser feel

oh cool, i'll jump back and check that out! thanks.

I liked the bit on Waterfalls because he says he thought he made a mistake not using real strings and Rubin was like "no the synth strings are what make it special" and McCartney was like "that's great because I can have a regret and be completely wrong about it"

(Rubin is correct IMO, like everything else on that album the synth stuff is what makes it work). I heard he talks about Check My Machine later too.

I plan to finally digitize and sell off the CDs while I can get 'em for at least $4+ each back.

― donut Get Behind Me Carbon Dioxide (donut), Wednesday, September 7, 2005 4:15 PM (fifteen years ago)

ah, 2005

The problem, of course, is that CDs are too expensive. (Solution: buy old LPs.)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, April 13, 2006 1:31 PM (fifteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

ah, 2006

lol yes

LOL. CD's are ridiculously cheap now, especially used - if you still want them, it's definitely a buyer's market. The box sets alone are worth it - I'm finding excellent copies of four or five-disc major label box sets for less than $20, in some cases as little as $10 (like MCA's great Patsy Cline box set).

This McCartney series is kind of blowing my mind. And watching him fucking with the faders on "Back In The U.S.S.R." is hilarious.

that moment where they discover a strangled high note in the tapes (cant quite remeber which song, from sgt pepper maybe?) & mccartney’s like THATS why we dont dig into the tapes was v funny

cited as Lucy In The Sky upthread :)

i haven't seen this moment yet, but when it happens i'm going to try to say "THAT's why we don't dig into the tapes" at the same time as macca