milf (the band): One of my all time favorites ...yes really. Hmm? No, I'm serious.

that's so weird, what did it mean to them?

Dig these clips, I'll have to check them out.

Without ascribing anything to the origin of the band's name and they may very well predate the term, but I'm not sure I'd go with "many years". I definitely heard the acronym my freshman year of college, which was '94-'95 for me. We knew what it meant long before it was popularized in American Pie.

OK fair, and that's why I worded it more loosely in my opening post. Have not found a definitive source on the name origin quite yet.

hard for me to believe the name origin is anything other than that

This dates the term already in use by 1992 with earliest use unknown

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MILF

although
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moro_Islamic_Liberation_Front

This dates the term already in use by 1992 with earliest use unknown

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MILF

― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, April 22, 2021 11:21 AM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

They formed in 1991, so it's pretty hard to say but still very plausible to be a coincidence. I was just digging through old blog rants about them trying to find some mention. Back in 2009 when I discovered them there was a fan page on myspace and some other essays here and there that are just broken links now... Nothing about the name in those write-ups that still exist either.

I feel like there were a few other '90s bands (maybe Jackass was one?) who chose names that ended up being unfortunate, in light of big pop culture phenomena that came along.

I'd just be curious to hear the genesis of the name and where it came from if it's not the major association that comes to mind.

Etymology aside, this is cool stuff, thanks for the heads up Evan.

You're welcome! Happy to spread the word.

wow @ this thread. i saw them a couple times in my earliest showgoing days, had no idea they had any kind of a profile outside of buffalo, had completely forgotten about them over the last 20 years. i think i had some kind of homemade CDR comp at one point, i'll have to hunt around and see if i can dig it out

i really like these recordings. shame about the name.

I feel like there were a few other '90s bands (maybe Jackass was one?) who chose names that ended up being unfortunate, in light of big pop culture phenomena that came along.

― best time to call is friday and saturday afternoons! (morrisp), Thursday, April 22, 2021 10:42 AM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Although there's an entire platform called bandcamp

had no idea about that tribute album despite the fact that i know most of the folks on it, ha. really taking me down a 2000s western new york indie rock rabbit hole here.

within one minute of the first song off of ha ha bus i sent the album to my guitarist, this band was invented for him probably

"milf tribute" has even more unfortunate connotations today

found a seller on discogs who had both CDs, got em both shipped for $21...looks like I'm in the milf business

Sounds way more like Jawbreaker and all the bands of that 90s scene (I'm not super familiar with any of it) rather than anything to do with Husker Du.

looks like a few copies of the tribute available via my pal's store, for tru milf completists

Yeah the Husker Du thing is not entirely accurate! More of a memorable description really.

Nice ums!! Hope you enjoy.

Ah yes, I was just considering getting one from that site/store! You know them? That's great.

And btw (referring to your earlier comment), I'm not sure they really do have a meaningful profile outside of Buffalo! I'm in NJ myself but I have the internet to thank.

Would be interested in this CDR you mentioned, if you find it.

Everybody Should Stop Doing Everything is one of the few CD grails of mine

in a couple more weeks, when i can once again start haunting the used music stores and charity shops of buffalo i will keep my eyes peeled for a copy!

In the course of trying to figure out the origin of the band's name (the answer is the obvious one), I stumbled onto this their extant myspace page:
https://myspace.com/whypeoplesuck/music/songs

Ah yes, that is the remains of what was once a fan page full of info. As you can see not much is left.

in a couple more weeks, when i can once again start haunting the used music stores and charity shops of buffalo i will keep my eyes peeled for a copy!

― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Thursday, April 22, 2021 7:30 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Thanks so much! Maybe you'll even find one of their cassettes, who knows.

Also, I can help supply mp3s too if anyone wants. Hit me up. Pretty sure my digital collection is 100% complete, self released cassettes & all.

I feel like there were a few other '90s bands (maybe Jackass was one?) who chose names that ended up being unfortunate

Isis! (formed in 1997)

Ugh yeah I think about that a lot! Feel bad for them.

Dunno. In the future, ISIS will be circumscribed to a particular, mercifully short period of human history that few people will actively recall, whereas the goddess Isis is eternal.

Oh man, forgot about ISIS, good band.

listening to my Milf CDs today, good stuff....I miss the days when there were like 10,000 bands like this

odd detail: in the liner notes for Antidope, they thank "Chip Z'nuff and the whole Big Deal Bunch" (Chip from from Enuff Z'nuff). I thought for a minute maybe that band was from Buffalo originally, but nope they were from Chicago so no idea how that connection was made - or maybe he was an A&R for Big Deal?

think the second album is clearly better, too bad they didn't make a third one

Glad you like it! Was sort of wondering what the takeaway was from anyone that gave it time since last week. Especially you since you went as far as to order the discs.

I may be clouded after years of obsession but I do think they stand out amongst all the other 9,999 bands that they are (I admit) correctly lumped in with. Partly because they did not sound like a poor man's version of [band]; I really believe they developed their own unique voice. They had that slowly lapping waves of reverb/swelling guitar effect (I'm a novice when it comes to guitar effects tbh) that is identifiable across their discography* that I love. I dig their sappy pretty songs and their whole atmosphere. There is more angsty immediacy in Ha Ha Bus but I agree by [i]Antidope{/i] they were really showing that they were developing something further. Really special band imo.

*I digitally own all their rarities beyond the two studio albums- if anyone would ever want any of that let me know.

whoops Antidope

only listened to them once through each yesterday, didn't get them in the mail until them, will listen more today, but yeah first impression was definitely good - i didn't mean that they were anonymous - i was more lamenting that there used to be this whole school of kinda post-jawbox type stuff that i took for granted at the time

first impression is that they had a little more of a melodic sense than some of those bands - actually detected a little nirvana in some of the vocal melodies

(moreso on the first album)

Right on, I just had also been reflecting on it while listening to one of their friends (who they'd shared a split 7" with) Tugboat Annie, who are great themselves but as much as I was enjoying it I was feeling a little more like there was a neon sign saying "RIYL Archer's of Loaf", and wondered if I was too close to milf to be able to realize if they too had a similar neon sign for someone with fresh ears. What I can do however is go "well I admit this one song sounds a lot like 95 era Foo Fighters... hmm is that a bad or good thing?" I've been so ~alone~ as a milf fan that I'm always burning to know if it is as objectively GREAT as I thought or if it just hits the spot for me and my very particular tastes and influences.

Also what pedal does that guitar effect, seriously? I have never been a gearhead!

Still want to know what pedal to buy...

Also milf rulez

oh sorry i meant to say - i don't really know much about pedals at all, only own two a volume pedal and a simple looper, nothing that affects tone

milf does rule

Evan i found that CDR i was looking for - send me an ILXmail and i'll hook you up

Hey! Sent you ilxmail did you get it?

Just want to reiterate:

-One Eye Open you rock thanks again so much

-milf forever

There's something about this band that really scratches an itch for me, like an everyband amalgam of good loc bands that opened for Jawbox in 94

local bands

Really glad you hear the magic! And that you've enjoyed it in the long run after my initial ILX pitch.

within one minute of the first song off of ha ha bus i sent the album to my guitarist, this band was invented for him probably

― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, April 22, 2021 4:50 PM (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

After glancing upthread I'm wondering if this really happened and if there was any sort of reaction as well as if a bradpinion was ever formed.

Visibility-attempt bump

Just want to reiterate:

-One Eye Open you rock thanks again so much

― Evan, Monday, September 13, 2021 5:00 PM (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

Still can't believe I have Everybody Should Stop Doing Everything now. It means so damn much to me! Thanks again.

Evan thank you for carrying the torch and reminding me & many others about this great band!

Someone’s gotta do it!

Actually this is exciting - my favorite blog just restored all the download links so you can easily load up on their discography including the deep cuts here:

https://wilfullyobscure.blogspot.com/search?q=Milf&m=1

Disclaimer: None of it is commercially available, and overall this blog is on top of removing links if and when they do.

Reminder to listen to MILF once a week

Whoa, actual footage of Justin Chapman (singer of milf) at the 40 second mark, significant because there's barely even photos of the band on the web these days

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nd4cWd5YiMw

Justin was the singer FYI

i still want to know what was behind this:

"Chip Z'nuff and the whole Big Deal Bunch" (Chip from from Enuff Z'nuff)

wow dude going through CDs and talking about a 7 inch by the drummer from Mule's previous band...i'm reeling right now i'm floating in the real 90s

IDK maybe they just met through the Big Deal connection and hit it off? Hard to make any other guesses.

Yeah I've been stuck drifting out here myself for awhile

Also whoops I didn't mean to repeat that Justin was the singer... instantly forgot I already clarified

me and my friend were the only super fans of PW Long's post Mule band PW Long's Reelfoot

I felt like he had a cool interesting approach to that post punk blues revivalism that was going on

Nice! Just noticed I have some Spavid mp3s I'll need to revisit