Vaccines, Infrastructure, and Kids In Cages: US Politics April 2021

crowds gathered outside the government center and george floyd square

Today, White House @PressSec Jen Psaki stated that the President does not support congressional efforts to legalize marijuana.

Biden's position "isn't the same as what the House and Senate have proposed," she said. pic.twitter.com/wqWtbP4fwO

— More Perfect Union (@MorePerfectUS) April 20, 2021

completely unfathomable if they fuck this up.

so my read is this is probably a yes on manslaughter and a yes on third degree but no on second degree? that one seems very difficult to prove.

really couldn't care less about pot right now so I will file that away and come back to it when I have capacity

I may be reading it wrong, but the chart here seems to indicate the 7 day average hitting a high Sunday after 6 days in a row over 3M.

for total numbers i'm going by bloomberg. but sure, whether we're at the peak or declining depends on how you count.

my concern is more that the groups that have had long enough that supply and their own schedules should not be issues are dropping before they get high enough. and those are the groups that personally benefit from it the most. there is no disagreement on the numbers for this afaict.

and yes, thanks everyone for explaining my point better than me, which is not: it is biden's job to solve epistimic collapse or that "this is a failure". it's: they have some moves they could make about this extremely obvious problem, and when they they make them i'll be fine with them patting themselves for doing well graded on curve that includes the trump administration.

this had got to go the right way

so my read is this is probably a yes on manslaughter and a yes on third degree but no on second degree? that one seems very difficult to prove.

― frogbs, Tuesday, April 20, 2021 3:40 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

it was my impression the second degree is a stretch, i think they dropped that charge then added it back in later?

yeah I believe you'd have to prove his intention from the start was to murder him which I don't think is gonna stick. the other two charges should be slam dunks though. if there weren't a cop involved.

ny times says: Second-degree murder, also called unintentional murder or felony murder, is killing someone in the course of committing another felony — in this case, the prosecutors will argue that Mr. Chauvin was assaulting Mr. Floyd. This charge does not require the prosecution to prove that Mr. Chauvin had any intent to kill.

The three charges each interpret Chauvin's intent last May in a slightly different way.

The second-degree unintentional murder charge is what's known as felony murder, or when a person commits an underlying felony and someone unintentionally dies. This charge requires the jury to find that Chauvin intended to assault Floyd and inflict substantial bodily harm.

The third-degree murder charge alleges that Chauvin had a "depraved mind, without regard for human life." The basic gist of depraved mind is "extreme recklessness," according to Richard Frase, Professor of Criminal Law at University of Minnesota Law School.

The charge is generally used in cases where a person drives a vehicle the wrong way or fires a weapon into a crowd. This murder charge was dismissed by the judge last year but reinstated in March after an appeals case involving the murder conviction of former Minneapolis Police officer Mohamed Noor.

Finally, the second-degree manslaughter charge relies on "culpable negligence," which has been interpreted to mean gross negligence combined with recklessness.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/19/us/derek-chauvin-charges-explain/index.html

yeah by that definition it should be all 3

GUILTY!!! FUCK YOU!!!!!

all counts guilty

YES!!!!

thank fuck

Guilty, guilty, guilty.

it's a fukken party tonight

FUCK YES

Hell yeah.

We've finally discovered what a cop has to do to get convicted for something

sentencing in eight weeks

i shouldn't be relieved or surprised but this is america

Dan, I know this doesn't go anywhere near far enough in repairing all of the pain for you and your community, but I was thinking of you when the verdict was read, and I'm just very happy for you that the right verdict was reached.

That goes for any of our BIPOC on this thread.

Now my initial euphoria has passed, I can't get past the fact that George Floyd is still dead.

Also a good moment to remember how fucking many unarmed black men and women have been killed by police in the USA in the year since Officer Chauvin murdered Mr. Floyd. And how few charges have been filed in their cases.

thank god, but also this ^ (xp to DJP)

saw his girlfriend break down at George Floyd square, just gutting

Also a good moment to remember how fucking many unarmed black men and women have been killed by police in the USA in the year since Officer Chauvin murdered Mr. Floyd. And how few charges have been filed in their cases.

― sharpening the contraindications (Aimless), Tuesday, April 20, 2021 5:14 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

And that if it weren't for one video, nothing would have happened.

Still, I hope this comes as a relief to many.

I'm sure this whole experience is making his family live through the pain of their loss over and over again but I hope today helps move them further along towards healing and that they can sleep a little better at night from here on.

I'm glad of course but it also feels like, this is what it takes? Video, a score of witnesses, and other cops willing to testify against him. If he hadn't been convicted, it would have meant literally no officer could ever be convicted of killing a person of color. But it sets a high bar for any other convictions.

Still, some actual real-life non-metaphorical justice.

it's really great to see the live interviews from GF square, people from the community are really happy

I'm crying, it's just the weight in this city feels lifted

Thank god

shout out to Keith Ellison, what a great job he did

I've never heard him speak before, he's pretty good at this

he had to take the case over because the Hennepin County attorney is a complete weirdo fuckup

fox news careful to describe the guilty party as an "ex cop"

now here is someone who knows how to meet the moment

.@SpeakerPelosi speaking at presser with CBC: Thank you George Floyd for sacrificing your life for justice...Because of you and because of thousands, millions of people around the world who came out for justice, your name will always be synonymous for justice.

— Alex Moe (@AlexNBCNews) April 20, 2021

omfg

wtf

LOL speak on white woman

God what the fuck Nancy

https://t.co/QUZG1KzLG7 pic.twitter.com/hXTdX83HbW

— Osita Nwanevu (@OsitaNwanevu) April 20, 2021

david guetta was more eloquent

re: pelosi This is what happens when you've spent decades of your life spinning reality into sound bites and platitudes for a living, while maintaining no immediate contact with planet earth.

that's like the worst possible thing you could say

OH FOR FUCK'S SAKE

the exact Pelosi quote is actually somehow worse than this tweet: "So again, thank you George Floyd for sacrificing your life for justice. For being there to call out to your mom, how heartbreaking was that, call out for your mom, 'I can't breathe.'"

— Addy Baird (@addysbaird) April 20, 2021

no doubt she thought it would be uplifting. instead it was utterly clueless.

But it sets a high bar for any other convictions.

Hopefully a dam-break - precedent setter for other prosecutions and juries.

david guetta was more eloquent

otm

Read my mind sic