I have had it up to here waiting for the Beatles catalogue to be remastered

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It def bears reading start to finish imo

The thing that is impressive is it immerses you in their individual upbringings so well that I caught myself wondering IF they would meet, not when lol

its exhaustively long but giving their bios room to breathe is such a gift in terms of learning new info when they’ve seemingly already been done to death

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 19 April 2021 16:47 (three years ago) link

I don't know why I bother asking any more but did Lewisohn ever give a clue as to when volume 2 is coming out? 2054?

bookmarkflaglink (Darin), Monday, 19 April 2021 23:15 (three years ago) link

2541, iirc

Bewlay Brothers & Sister Rrose (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 19 April 2021 23:22 (three years ago) link

;_;

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 19 April 2021 23:59 (three years ago) link

XP Definitely not this year but possibly next year was the last i heard.

piscesx, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 00:46 (three years ago) link

When he’s 64

Alba, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 01:02 (three years ago) link

tbf, he’s focusing his time and energy on interviewing as many sources as possible — for this and future volumes — as a number of potential first-hand sources passed away just prior to, and during, the writing of Tune In (Neil Aspinall and Geoff Emerick, to name two).

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 01:57 (three years ago) link

xpost - I get the joke, but considering he’ll turn 63 in a couple months, I’d be happy with that deadline

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 02:11 (three years ago) link

I know! I couldn’t resist after piscesx said next year.

Alba, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 02:15 (three years ago) link

I think the last interview I heard he said “definitely not 2021 or 2022, possibly 2023 but don’t hold your breath”

"The Pus/Worm" by The Smiths (hardcore dilettante), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 04:41 (three years ago) link

jfc

bookmarkflaglink (Darin), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 05:52 (three years ago) link

But it might have been “def not 2020 or 2021, maybe 22 etc”

Time keeps on slippin slippin slippin etc

"The Pus/Worm" by The Smiths (hardcore dilettante), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 18:07 (three years ago) link

Comprehensive answer;

https://www.marklewisohn.net/volume-2/

piscesx, Friday, 23 April 2021 02:33 (three years ago) link

;_;

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 April 2021 02:47 (three years ago) link

volume 2 is probably just 63-64

brimstead, Friday, 23 April 2021 02:53 (three years ago) link

He's going to skip straight to "Spies Like Us".

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 23 April 2021 02:59 (three years ago) link

Working my way through the reviews on Amazon:

https://i.imgur.com/T9viUSt.png

Alba, Friday, 23 April 2021 03:02 (three years ago) link

The Beatles did smoke a lot, it's for authenticity.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 23 April 2021 03:06 (three years ago) link

I love how the working title of abbey road was Everest for the cigarette brand

brimstead, Friday, 23 April 2021 03:53 (three years ago) link

Volume 2 will go up to ‘66 if memory serves. I was thinking Candlestick Park (August ‘66) would be an unbeatable ending for the ‘second act’.

piscesx, Friday, 23 April 2021 04:08 (three years ago) link

Yeah, Lewisohn originally said volume 2 would include '66, but given the unbelievable amount of detail in volume 1 -- a period for the Beatles with relatively minuscule documentation in terms of newspaper stories and such -- I can see volume 2 only going as far as '64 or maybe '65. He has so much more to work with, and sift through, post-'62 in terms of available materials. And that's in addition to the interviews he's conducting; there's a lot more people involved with the Beatles after '62.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 23 April 2021 15:57 (three years ago) link

Alma Warren for a kick-off

Mark G, Friday, 23 April 2021 16:04 (three years ago) link

He’s said it would be 3 volumes in total, so difficult to see how he could cram 65-70 in one volume based on how he approached their early career.

Dan Worsley, Friday, 23 April 2021 16:05 (three years ago) link

Or even 66-70.

Dan Worsley, Friday, 23 April 2021 16:06 (three years ago) link

That's where I am, if he stops at '64 or '65, that would be an absolute ton for volume 3.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 23 April 2021 16:06 (three years ago) link

volume 2 does come w a wheelbarrow so

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 April 2021 16:07 (three years ago) link

iirc volume 3 will come with a lectern to support the weight

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 23 April 2021 16:12 (three years ago) link


He’s said it would be 3 volumes in total, so difficult to see how he could cram 65-70 in one volume based on how he approached their early career.

― Dan Worsley, Friday, April 23, 2021 9:05 AM (seventeen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

the twist is that he views the Beatles as having ceased to exist in 1966 due to Paul’s death, which takes up the majority of Vol 3.

JoeStork, Friday, 23 April 2021 16:37 (three years ago) link

LOL

He initially projected it at 3 volumes & he hasn’t changed his tune yet but there was an interview somewhere where he floated the possibility that it would end up being 4 volumes to the end of the band... and speculated about a post-breakup volume also

"The Pus/Worm" by The Smiths (hardcore dilettante), Friday, 23 April 2021 17:34 (three years ago) link

Peter Doggett's You Never Give Me Your Money is a compact exploration of their lives after the split, that conveys a lot of the emotional ties and barriers between the members post-1970. You have to be willing to allow him to refer to Ringo as "Starkey" throughout, however.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 23 April 2021 17:52 (three years ago) link

When I worked in the newsroom of the British Library, Mark Lewisohn was in there all the time, ordering copies of the Bootle News & Journal from March 1963 or whatever.

Authoritarian Steaks (Tom D.), Friday, 23 April 2021 17:59 (three years ago) link

You Never Give Me Your Money is great - but also kind of a bummer.

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 April 2021 20:26 (three years ago) link

Yes, exactly.

Bewlay Brothers & Sister Rrose (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 23 April 2021 20:53 (three years ago) link

There's a wee sub-genre of respectable books about the post-1970 years

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41NSZ8YTH5L._SX309_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

piscesx, Friday, 23 April 2021 21:29 (three years ago) link

Kind of ultimately depressing to read about and yet since we already knew something was up might as well get the unvarnished truth.

Bewlay Brothers & Sister Rrose (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 23 April 2021 21:41 (three years ago) link

Who's that on the cover, Bud Cort?

pplains, Friday, 23 April 2021 21:59 (three years ago) link

:D

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Friday, 23 April 2021 22:09 (three years ago) link

Lol

Bewlay Brothers & Sister Rrose (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 23 April 2021 22:21 (three years ago) link

*imagegoogle*

lol

anatol_merklich, Saturday, 24 April 2021 23:33 (three years ago) link

It's because the copyright has lapsed. They still have to pay publishing charges though.

Something like that, anyway

Mark G, Tuesday, 27 April 2021 14:58 (two years ago) link

Track 1 - Original Version Ringo Starr on Drums,

Ringo Starr 1.0!

Alba, Tuesday, 27 April 2021 15:15 (two years ago) link

what a weird hodgepodge of stuff. most of that is, I'm quite certain, already available. I wish there's be a really comprehensive set of lapsed copyright releases that make sense and don't make a jumble of their contents.

akm, Tuesday, 27 April 2021 17:31 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

https://deadline.com/2021/06/the-beatles-get-back-peter-jackson-disney-six-hour-documentary-three-day-thanksgiving-debut-1234777028/

Peter Jackson’s ‘The Beatles: Get Back’ Six-Hour (!) Doc Set For Three-Day Thanksgiving Debut On Disney+

piscesx, Thursday, 17 June 2021 15:44 (two years ago) link

Get Back will also be released as a .mp4 on torrent sites on the day after Thanksgiving, i'll be catching it there

Karl Malone, Thursday, 17 June 2021 15:59 (two years ago) link

Three-Day Thanksgiving Debut On Disney+

Naaa, na na nanana naa,
Nanana naa,
FUCK OFF.

― mike t-diva, Sunday, December 5, 2010 1:10 PM (ten years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Fauna Sukkot (Deflatormouse), Thursday, 17 June 2021 21:41 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Happy birthday Ringo! 81 today.

Sam Weller, Wednesday, 7 July 2021 07:54 (two years ago) link

That mono box set they released in 2009 is possibly the single most prized release I have in my entire record collection. Not for monetary value, just for having nearly everything they did, in the right mixes and probably the best sound quality I can hope for without breaking the bank. Add the stereo-only stuff like Abbey Road, my own version of Get Back spliced together from the best official releases, and "The Ballad of John and Yoko"/"Old Brown Shoe" single, and that pretty much covers every song they released before they split.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 7 July 2021 20:40 (two years ago) link

Not only “without breaking the bank” — even the nerds on the Hoffman forum say there’s no point in seeking out original pressings if you have these.

If they did a stereo box with the same attention to detail, SQ, & pressing quality, I’d be on it in a heartbeat— never mind that I DO NOT NEED 2 copies of their entire discography FFS.

"The Pus/Worm" by The Smiths (hardcore dilettante), Thursday, 8 July 2021 02:55 (two years ago) link

the 09 mono box is so fucking expensive now

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 8 July 2021 03:02 (two years ago) link


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