Taking Sides: Liverpool vs Everton

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i may well do JtN, also we can discuss THE PROJECT

$V£N! (blueski), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 13:11 (nineteen years ago) link

SWEET.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 13:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Chris is not feeling optimistic, so may prefer to watch at home, but I will probably still be in town and might pop in.

Vicky (Vicky), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 13:34 (nineteen years ago) link

Hooray! Even though I won't be there.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 13:53 (nineteen years ago) link

1978
Wales win the Grand Slam in Rugby
The Pope Dies
Liverpool lose in the League Cup final to the eventual League Champions that year (Forest)
Gary Player wins his ninth major by winning the US Masters
Liverpool win the European Cup

2005
Wales win the Grand Slam in Rugby
The Pope Dies
Liverpool lose in the League Cup final to the eventual League Champions that year (Chelsea)
Tiger Woods wins his ninth major by winning the US Masters
Champions League ????

Dave B (daveb), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 17:23 (nineteen years ago) link

Dave B is http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38452000/jpg/_38452525_loughran150.jpg

ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 17:54 (nineteen years ago) link

I might be up for this, but I may well feel too depressed and go home instead - I've been in lousy shape recently. I'll try to post tomorrow to let you know, not that it much matters of course.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 18:45 (nineteen years ago) link

good work boyler, I may well be in attendance, it's a shame pj won't be there though

chris/porkpie/cabbage, Tuesday, 12 April 2005 18:59 (nineteen years ago) link

I can't claim credit. It was from another msgboard.

Dave B (daveb), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 19:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Where they've added:

Prince Charles got married
Ken and Deirdre got married
A new Doctor Who was appointed
Norwich and Crystal Palace were relegated from D1
Liverpool won the European Cup

Dave B (daveb), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 19:35 (nineteen years ago) link

That was 1981.

The Horse of Babylon's Butler (the pirate king), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 20:46 (nineteen years ago) link

1983:

A general election.
Steve Winwood's "Valerie" had been a hit only a year earlier.
A man from Bolton is very popular (Tony Knowles).
Scott Walker has reputedly finished a new LP.
Liverpool go out of the European Cup in the quarterfinals.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 08:19 (nineteen years ago) link

1983:

Brighton relegated
Tories win election

Dave B (daveb), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 08:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Yes, and Liverpool aren't playing Widzew Lodz. OR ARE THEY?

(JtN: I may text you later if I'm up for watching this in town - depends how late I work...)

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 08:37 (nineteen years ago) link

As someone in our office has said, "The Pope must've been shitting himself watching the Six Nations."

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 08:41 (nineteen years ago) link

I think I will be along tonight - what time will people get there? I'm thinking 6.30-7.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 09:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah I will try and get there earlyish myself to grab a table - probably some time around 6ish.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 09:58 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm really nervous about tonight - not just the game (though obviously going to the Delle Alpi without Gerrard is worrisome enough) but in light of apparent threats by Juve fans and last night's trouble in Milan. There's going to be trouble. I'm almost sure of it.

Crackity (Crackity Jones), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 10:02 (nineteen years ago) link

my useless prediction? 3-1 to Juve but I really hope Liverpool win

$V£N! (blueski), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 10:03 (nineteen years ago) link

If trouble kicks off and it's still 0-0, will LFC get handed the tie, like Milan did last night?

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 10:15 (nineteen years ago) link

No, I expect Everton will just get banned from Europe. (I'm joking! I'm only pretending to play the Bitter Blue!)

The usual thing if a team or its fans muck about to the extent that a game can't be played to its conclusion is to award the match by the score of 3-0 to the innocent party. I expect this to be the outcome of the Inter-AC debacle. I dunno what would happen if a side aiming to recover a 1-5 first leg deficit went 2-0 up with 20min left and then the opposition all trooped off the pitch in some spurious protest.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 10:47 (nineteen years ago) link

they want their bloody heads banging together.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 10:52 (nineteen years ago) link

With full Optimism of the Will, I am going to predict a 1-1... with IGOR scoring a header.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 11:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, I'm worried about non-football aspects of this too. I don't really fancy Liverpool's chances too much - haven't Juve had four 1-0 home wins in this competition this season already? Another seems reasonably probable, I think.

One of my colleagues here, who glories in the name of M@x 0rlando, is Italian and a Juve supporter. I think I'll resist asking him to join me.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 11:40 (nineteen years ago) link

I hate to think what the Ultras might do if Liverpool score (not that they need an on-field trigger). Best for all* concerned if Juventus quietly and efficiently win 2-0 in a game with no bookings.

(* - in a loose sense)

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 12:18 (nineteen years ago) link

I think they should have a Charlie Rich match.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 12:25 (nineteen years ago) link

JtN I trust all this palaver means you'd prefer a new title for THE PROJECT (not that I was keen on using that title for it anyway).

$V£N! (blueski), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 12:29 (nineteen years ago) link

PJ, they should try to decide who is the most beautiful girl in the world?

(actually I was listening to Behind Closed Doors just a couple of hours ago, as it happens)

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 13:36 (nineteen years ago) link

realness

hold tight the private caller (mwah), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 19:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Congrats to Liverpool. Hope you beat Chelsea.

The Horse of Babylon's Butler (the pirate king), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 19:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Bollocks

L'il Michael Owen (daveb), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 20:09 (nineteen years ago) link

I think that was the most nervous three minutes of my entire life. Including the time I lost my virginity.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 20:27 (nineteen years ago) link

at least there you managed to get in the box...

$V£N! (blueski), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 20:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Mixed feelings. It's nice that such an arrogant bunch of ultimately rather ineffectual footballers have been dumped out of the competition (along with their untrammelled thug-fan element).

The Liverpool run must be stopped but I find it difficult to imagine one elite Premiership side sticking it on another for a fourth (or perhaps fifth) time in one campaign* (OK, LFC beat EFC four times in 86-87, if you count the "Super" Cup) even if there are 31pts between them in the table. No, I fear a similar scenario to last season when Arsenal beat Chelsea three times in domestic competition (and always by the odd goal) before coming unstuck in the Euro two-legger.

(* - tho' 0-0 Stamford and 1-1 Anfield would do it).

Still, Jellybean now has more midweek fixtures at the business end of the season to spread his hobbling squad around. Got to be worth some dropped league points.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 21:48 (nineteen years ago) link

fantastic result, but an excruciating 90 minutes. I was shaking and my hands were tingling at the end.

Porkpie (porkpie), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 21:53 (nineteen years ago) link

It'll be a 2-legged league match, not a CL semi. Though ITV will have a lot more than a semi at this (DYS!). I can see Liverpool doing this though they'll need all their players. Who's at home first?

Dave B (daveb), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 22:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Who? Igor Biscan?

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20050413/i/r2950699042.jpg

PS - you saw in Biscan and Alonso why Liverpool fans (at least the ones I've spoken to) really don't fear the loss of Gerrard. They rather not, but it's not the end of the world, and after Houllier's attempts to build a team around one man, they aren't so keen to repeat it.

Dave B (daveb), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 23:01 (nineteen years ago) link

I am kinda worried that LFC will now knock out Chelsea and lose in the final, like some horrific reverse Arsenal 2004. But still! Juventus!

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Thursday, 14 April 2005 01:36 (nineteen years ago) link

I'd love it if they beat them. Love it.

(they=Liv)

Dave B (daveb), Thursday, 14 April 2005 07:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Mixed feelings. It's nice that such an arrogant bunch of ultimately rather ineffectual footballers have been dumped out of the competition

Um, they won, didn't they?

Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 14 April 2005 07:52 (nineteen years ago) link

You know I was referring to Juve, cheeky. (On this occasion.)

1965:
There was a five in the year.
Jonathan King was in the news.
Some other stuff happened, eerily prescient of this year. (Spooky).
Liverpool lost in the European Cup semifinals.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 14 April 2005 08:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Liverpool to beat PSV 3-2 in the final please...

$V£N! (blueski), Thursday, 14 April 2005 08:34 (nineteen years ago) link

Well done Liverpool - fantastic performance over 2 legs. I'm sorry that you'll be going no further - a CFC v LFC final would have been good.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 14 April 2005 08:36 (nineteen years ago) link

it was nice to see cisse get a run out.

well done pool. can you imagine if they won the champions league? i still find it unlikely, but they've proven me wrong at every turn.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 14 April 2005 08:36 (nineteen years ago) link

I think it was on the CL thread where we discussed what would happen if Liverpool won the CL and finished 5th or worse (for anyone who doesn't know, and there can't be many).

Basically, the FA can choose to nominate them as the fourth English representative in the 05-06 CL ahead of whoever does actually finish 4th in the Prem. And they will. There's no 5th CL place for England (or anyone) just cos someone outside the top four wins the damn thing.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 14 April 2005 08:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Well done Liverpool. Shame they've got Chelsea next. Started off reasonably well-disposed towards Chelsea but can't forgive them for beating Barca, who were sooo beautiful to watch, or for all the Mourinho antics during and since. Hope Liverpool beat them but can't see it.

If Liverpool do win it (highly unlikely) I'd feel very sorry for Everton if they finish 4th don't get into the CL next season. But it'd be even more scandalous if the FA didn't nominate the holders.

frankiemachine, Thursday, 14 April 2005 08:58 (nineteen years ago) link

Play up, Liverpool!

Martin, I've never heard it, that song.

!!!

I told you, I think, that Liverpool would be this year's Valencia.

I didn't really believe it though.

I would love Jellybean to get one over Miseryguts Mourinho, the Portuguese Plonker of Old Porto Town.

I had a Didier Drogba dream. Sounds like a song title for the Foxgloves.

I'm worried about your circulation, Chris.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 14 April 2005 09:05 (nineteen years ago) link

god that was nervy, I too was shaking at the end, could hardly watch. it's all really encouraging, whatever happens in the end. however it does really hammer home the necessity of getting into the Champions League again. Rafa knows what he's doing in Europe!

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 14 April 2005 09:51 (nineteen years ago) link

Morientes and Owen spearheading next season's attack?

$V£N! (blueski), Thursday, 14 April 2005 09:52 (nineteen years ago) link

I agree with Dr C.

Congratulations to Liverpool, and their supporters.

the bellefox, Thursday, 14 April 2005 10:55 (nineteen years ago) link


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