Was/Is Morrissey Racist?

everything through Vauxhall is strong and then the drop off is precipitous

I haven't heard anything since the awful World Peace one, but I thought You are the Quarry was pretty solid.

"Last of the Gang to Die" was his last great song

I dunno....with everything I just lost the desire to listen to him

Agreed.

funny looks like there was a previous episode with "the snuffs" that was more complimentary? they did a post about it on his official website (tw this motherfucker has the audacity to have a picture of/quote from james baldwin on his home page)

https://www.morrisseycentral.com/messagesfrommorrissey/the-simpsons-celebrate-the-snuffs

pleasantly surprised that even the commenters on morrissey-solo seem to have had enough of his bullshit:

https://www.morrissey-solo.com/threads/simpsons-response-april-19-2021.147956/

can't fathom why people would buy new moz material when you could listen to the smiths or any of a thousand other things which are available to be bought or streamed.

morrissey-solo seem to have had enough of him years ago, he even tried to have the forum shut down a while back.

not sure why anyone would go there either, but people are weird.

he even tried to have the forum shut down a while back.

omg what a bitch

As a former Morrissey Solo poster (banned many years now) can I just say there’s been mutual antipathy for a long time

http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/fuckmorrisseysolo.com.jpg

He also used to refer to it as “Morrissey So Low” on his stupid true-to-you posts. He’s been past his best a while.

last message on the first page of that morrissey-solo thread:

holden caulfield

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Morrissey is still my special interest but I am so tired

The Simpsons viewership ratings have gone down so badly over recent years.

love the trump-esque turn there at the end

xxxpost - i never posted at morrissey-solo but i did go there a fair amount leading up to and after "you are the quarry" there was a bit of excitement back then just because he'd been inactive for a few years and the new material actually seemed strong

Yeah same. Was the best place for coverage when he was touring again around the time I saw him ofc.

'Twas his manager that reportedly did it:

Last night, Morrissey’s agent Peter Katsis issued a statement on the Morrissey Official Facebook group.

Peter Katsi's

oh man, the producer of James Kochalka Superstar

xp loool

I watched this episode earlier and the thing that comes across incredibly clearly is that the whole thing was clearly done by fans who were angry about what Morrissey has become. The level of the detail in the merch and the end is a bit clumsy but it still sticks. I suppose it particularly cut to the bone because it’s one part Rubber Ring and four parts Get Off the Stage. Have always thought Rubber Ring was Morrissey at his most self-aware of how we often feel about the music of our youth when we grow up.

And when you're dancing and laughing and finally living
Hear my voice in your head and think of me kindly

^^Just got done with it (my first full new Simpsons since maybe the Burning Man one?), and I totally see that. Shame about the rest of the episode (the b-plot is a weak Canyonero retread, the music fest parody dips back to update both Hullabalooza and the Spinal Tap ep, and while I loved that their fake Johnny Marr actually looked like Johnny Marr, they bunted on Rourke & Joyce, presenting them as generic middle-aged Brits... although maybe that's right?).

it's so hilarious I'm going to watch it tonight, also probably the first new one I've seen in a decade

The Secret To Bringing Back Old Viewers: Ill Takedowns of Indie Legends

Whole episode is a cautionary tale on not being a bitter killjoy about everything and enjoying some of the things in life or you might end up growing into a racist, fat, old fuck. Also kill your idols.

It really feels like a retread of way better Simpsons episodes, but if it made Morrissey - and/or his fan club - throw a fit I’m ok with it.

I don’t think many people would have paid much attention to it it weren’t for the Streisand effect.

FWIW, I don't feel very comfortable about the body-shaming part of all this, though I don't know how the rules of that work when it comes to caricature.

I think that's a case of the writers knowing what would push Morrissey's buttons.

Well, quite

80s Quilloughby (Morrissey) meeting his current self is the funniest shit I've seen this year pic.twitter.com/Hzy3HEk1bL

— vale☄️ (@adifferentgun) April 19, 2021

it was...ok. about as good as i remember some newer(ish at this point) episodes i've seen

"Old Sting is bloody gorgeous--and he knows it!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbUP-Jo92qE

And all those lies
Written lies, twisted lies
Well, they weren't lies
They weren't lies
They weren't lies

I’m surprised that enough americans know who morrissey is to warrant a Simpsons parody but I then again I don’t know what young people are up to

i don't know who watches the simpsons anymore. is it gen x?

It's people who only get one channel on their TVs

gen x then. oldskies.

i mean my 75 year old mother cut the cord w.cable but yes having netflix is still very futuristic young ppl

I watched the episode on Hulu after seeing that Katsis response circulating on Sunday night.

i was being ironic guys.
like bugs bunny, making a comment out of the side of his mouth while chewing a carrot.
like a millennial.

The only clip I saw was the video for "Everyone Is Horrid Except Me (And Possibly You)", which was good. Unsurprised to learn Bret McKenzie wrote the music.

that song was the funniest thing to me

Cant believe this has been on the news here.

I’m surprised that enough americans know who morrissey is to warrant a Simpsons parody but I then again I don’t know what young people are up to

is that what Lisa looks like now or is it just this episode???

He could sell out huge arenas in Los Angeles and maybe NYC in the early ‘90s, so a few oldsters remember him.

The episode writer and the executive producer both saw him at the Hollywood Bowl in 2018

what Lisa looks like in this episode:

https://cdn.ilpost.it/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Morrissey.jpg

Who is this possibly for

It's got more people talking about/engaging with both the Simpsons and Moz than they have in donkey's years, so...

Who was last week's episode possibly for

Who is singing Moz in the "everything is horrid" song - Bret Mckenzie or Bene Cummerbund? It sounds more like Bret to me (and it has def FotC shades)

Cumberbatch, directed over video conference by McKenzie.

is that what Lisa looks like now or is it just this episode???

^ Comment of the day

Also, this:

“Neither do I have a determined business squad of legal practitioners ready to pounce. I think this is generally understood and is the reason why I am so carelessly and noisily attacked. You are especially despised if your music affects people in a strong and beautiful way, since music is no longer required to.”

1335 posts deep into the "Is Morrissey Racist?" thread, and we finally get some clarity on why people keep attacking him.