Was/Is Morrissey Racist?

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it's probably some poor bastard from his band, same guy who was all "he was complaining about anti-brexit MEDIA, not anti-brexit audiences".

would also make sense because I can't really imagine Morrissey having a working knowledge of what the Simpsons or SNL even are, as they are not British pop hits from 1962

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 19 April 2021 12:50 (three years ago) link

get out bart i'm piss

eisimpleir (crüt), Monday, 19 April 2021 12:51 (three years ago) link

Yeah, this doesn’t read like Morrissey’s writing at all, tbh.

Alba, Monday, 19 April 2021 13:07 (three years ago) link

But when a show stoops so low to use harshly hateful tactics like showing the Morrissey character with his belly hanging out of his shirt (when he has never looked like that at any point in his career) makes you wonder who the real hurtful, racist group is here.

But when a show stoops so low to use harshly hateful tactics like showing the Morrissey character with his belly hanging out of his shirt (when he has never looked like that at any point in his career) makes you wonder who the real hurtful, racist group is here.

But when a show stoops so low to use harshly hateful tactics like showing the Morrissey character with his belly hanging out of his shirt (when he has never looked like that at any point in his career) makes you wonder who the real hurtful, racist group is here.

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Monday, 19 April 2021 13:09 (three years ago) link

really makes u think

pomenitul, Monday, 19 April 2021 13:12 (three years ago) link

makes you think

80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Monday, 19 April 2021 13:13 (three years ago) link

lmao

80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Monday, 19 April 2021 13:13 (three years ago) link

:D

pomenitul, Monday, 19 April 2021 13:16 (three years ago) link

racist against bequiffed Mancunian miserabilists

Neil S, Monday, 19 April 2021 13:21 (three years ago) link

Also, while I might quibble with aspects of Azaria's apology, I think publicly apologizing is taking that mirror and holding it up to yourself.

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Monday, 19 April 2021 13:41 (three years ago) link

the belly hanging out of the shirt thing makes me positive it IS morrissey

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 19 April 2021 13:43 (three years ago) link

Last Night I Dreamt That I Was a Viking

You Can't Have the Woogie Without a Little Boogie (Old Lunch), Monday, 19 April 2021 13:44 (three years ago) link

Did a googles image search of Morrissey topless and now I have to go and bleach my eyes.

Dan Worsley, Monday, 19 April 2021 13:46 (three years ago) link

Apparently he has a habit of taking off his shirt during encores and throwing it to the audience.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 19 April 2021 13:51 (three years ago) link

Don’t search on youtube - Morrissey encore shirt - unless you got eyebleach ready.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 19 April 2021 13:54 (three years ago) link

Is his belly hanging out of his shirt before he takes it off?

pomenitul, Monday, 19 April 2021 13:55 (three years ago) link

i went to a morrissey show where he took his shirt off and i wish i hadn't

ufo, Monday, 19 April 2021 13:56 (three years ago) link

the belly hanging out of the shirt thing makes me positive it IS morrissey


Yeah he was doing these weird updates on true-to-you for years and years before doing them on Facebook himself, 100% agree that that struck a serious nerve with him.

I looked up the actual details and like
https://consequence-net.cdn.ampproject.org/i/s/consequence.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Morrissey-Simpsons.jpeg?resize=768,433

However, after Lisa has an opportunity to attend a Snuffs reunion concert, she soon discovers that Quilloughby is no longer his former self — instead, he’s now overweight, racist, and worst of all, he eats meat. “I was [a vegan], until I found out veganism was invented by foreigners, for whom there are far too many on this planet,” Quilloughby proclaims.


Interestingly he doesn’t pick up the meat thing at all, when previously he’s been quite happy to use his veganism as a reason for his misanthropy and racism.

Scamp Granada (gyac), Monday, 19 April 2021 14:04 (three years ago) link

i went to a morrissey show where he took his shirt off and i wish i hadn't


Me except two shows.

Scamp Granada (gyac), Monday, 19 April 2021 14:05 (three years ago) link

My condolences.

pomenitul, Monday, 19 April 2021 14:06 (three years ago) link

Come to think of it, I've never heard any of his solo material and at this point I'm not sure I want to anyway?

pomenitul, Monday, 19 April 2021 14:07 (three years ago) link

Wait sorry I hadn’t read the full screed, DON’T SUE ME STEPHEN

Meanwhile, “Morrissey has never made a ‘cash grab’, hasn’t sued any people for their attacks, has never stopped performing great shows, and is still a serious vegan and strong supporter for animal rights,” the singer proclaimed. “By suggesting all of the above in this episode…The Simpsons’ hypocritical approach to their storyline says it all.”

Scamp Granada (gyac), Monday, 19 April 2021 14:07 (three years ago) link

Come to think of it, I've never heard any of his solo material and at this point I'm not sure I want to anyway?


I actually rate a lot of his solo work though I don’t think I’ve listened to anything new he’s done since 2008 or so.

Scamp Granada (gyac), Monday, 19 April 2021 14:08 (three years ago) link

[Viva Hate (such an innocuous title at the time!) holds up pretty well. Vini Reilly really shines on it.

henry s, Monday, 19 April 2021 14:14 (three years ago) link

his solo work is 100% garbage except for a handful of tracks off Viva Hate

mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Monday, 19 April 2021 14:15 (three years ago) link

Yeah any posts that don’t mention Vauxhall & I can be safely ignored. Still incredible.

Scamp Granada (gyac), Monday, 19 April 2021 14:18 (three years ago) link

his weird true-to-you statements were usually first-person though similar in vibe to this one

some of his solo work is decent but overall it generally comes across as a less distinctive version of his stuff with the smiths due to most of his collaborators being pretty boring musicians overall, vini reilly on viva hate being the exception. generally more straight-forward pop/glam rock in sound, less jangly than the smiths etc., and there was a weird rockabilly influence for a bit iirc?

don't have any desire to revisit any of it really these days though

ufo, Monday, 19 April 2021 14:23 (three years ago) link

bona drag is a really good comp, i'd probably choose that if i had to choose one

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 19 April 2021 14:30 (three years ago) link

Viva Hate, seemed like such an innocuous title when all we knew was that he sang "shelve your Western plans and understand that life is hard enough when you belong here" on it. Sweet innocence.

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Monday, 19 April 2021 14:31 (three years ago) link

I agree that Vauxhall & I is OPO for solo Morrissey btw but feel even more strongly that if you're not a big Smiths fan to begin with, you'd be fine steering clear.

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Monday, 19 April 2021 14:37 (three years ago) link

I like The Smiths but I wouldn’t describe myself as a fan.

pomenitul, Monday, 19 April 2021 14:38 (three years ago) link

everything through Vauxhall is strong and then the drop off is precipitous

akm, Monday, 19 April 2021 15:40 (three years ago) link

I haven't heard anything since the awful World Peace one, but I thought You are the Quarry was pretty solid.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 19 April 2021 15:41 (three years ago) link

"Last of the Gang to Die" was his last great song

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 19 April 2021 15:42 (three years ago) link

I dunno....with everything I just lost the desire to listen to him

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 19 April 2021 15:43 (three years ago) link

Agreed.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 19 April 2021 15:47 (three years ago) link

funny looks like there was a previous episode with "the snuffs" that was more complimentary? they did a post about it on his official website (tw this motherfucker has the audacity to have a picture of/quote from james baldwin on his home page)

https://www.morrisseycentral.com/messagesfrommorrissey/the-simpsons-celebrate-the-snuffs

pleasantly surprised that even the commenters on morrissey-solo seem to have had enough of his bullshit:

https://www.morrissey-solo.com/threads/simpsons-response-april-19-2021.147956/

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 19 April 2021 15:52 (three years ago) link

can't fathom why people would buy new moz material when you could listen to the smiths or any of a thousand other things which are available to be bought or streamed.

morrissey-solo seem to have had enough of him years ago, he even tried to have the forum shut down a while back.

not sure why anyone would go there either, but people are weird.

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Monday, 19 April 2021 15:55 (three years ago) link

he even tried to have the forum shut down a while back.

omg what a bitch

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 19 April 2021 15:58 (three years ago) link

As a former Morrissey Solo poster (banned many years now) can I just say there’s been mutual antipathy for a long time

http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/fuckmorrisseysolo.com.jpg

He also used to refer to it as “Morrissey So Low” on his stupid true-to-you posts. He’s been past his best a while.

Scamp Granada (gyac), Monday, 19 April 2021 16:01 (three years ago) link

last message on the first page of that morrissey-solo thread:

holden caulfield

New Member

Today at 7:19 AM

#20

Morrissey is still my special interest but I am so tired

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Monday, 19 April 2021 16:04 (three years ago) link

The Simpsons viewership ratings have gone down so badly over recent years.

love the trump-esque turn there at the end

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Monday, 19 April 2021 16:14 (three years ago) link

xxxpost - i never posted at morrissey-solo but i did go there a fair amount leading up to and after "you are the quarry" there was a bit of excitement back then just because he'd been inactive for a few years and the new material actually seemed strong

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 19 April 2021 16:16 (three years ago) link

Yeah same. Was the best place for coverage when he was touring again around the time I saw him ofc.

Scamp Granada (gyac), Monday, 19 April 2021 16:19 (three years ago) link

'Twas his manager that reportedly did it:

Last night, Morrissey’s agent Peter Katsis issued a statement on the Morrissey Official Facebook group.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 19 April 2021 18:50 (three years ago) link

Peter Katsi's

Authoritarian Steaks (Tom D.), Monday, 19 April 2021 18:55 (three years ago) link

oh man, the producer of James Kochalka Superstar

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Monday, 19 April 2021 19:00 (three years ago) link

xp loool

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Monday, 19 April 2021 19:00 (three years ago) link

I watched this episode earlier and the thing that comes across incredibly clearly is that the whole thing was clearly done by fans who were angry about what Morrissey has become. The level of the detail in the merch and the end is a bit clumsy but it still sticks. I suppose it particularly cut to the bone because it’s one part Rubber Ring and four parts Get Off the Stage. Have always thought Rubber Ring was Morrissey at his most self-aware of how we often feel about the music of our youth when we grow up.

And when you're dancing and laughing and finally living
Hear my voice in your head and think of me kindly


And we would too, if he didn’t become what he has.

Scamp Granada (gyac), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 00:23 (three years ago) link

^^Just got done with it (my first full new Simpsons since maybe the Burning Man one?), and I totally see that. Shame about the rest of the episode (the b-plot is a weak Canyonero retread, the music fest parody dips back to update both Hullabalooza and the Spinal Tap ep, and while I loved that their fake Johnny Marr actually looked like Johnny Marr, they bunted on Rourke & Joyce, presenting them as generic middle-aged Brits... although maybe that's right?).

blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 01:28 (three years ago) link


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