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BTW she must have hired a new agent in between TP:TR and when she had a wordless cameo in the Inland Empire credits.

Chris L, Sunday, 18 April 2021 16:44 (three years ago) link

Or they thought a wordless cameo in a home movie's credits was fine, bu a speaking role in a highly-publicised prestige TV series for a major cable channel deserved better.

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Sunday, 18 April 2021 19:20 (three years ago) link

Sure seems like she was on a lot of magazine covers though, Spanish language or otherwise.

Bewlay Brothers & Sister Rrose (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 19 April 2021 02:24 (three years ago) link

Okay, rewatched this, slow-watched and then speed-watched, over the weekend for the first time since it came out and can't stop thinking about it.

Bewlay Brothers & Sister Rrose (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 19 April 2021 15:36 (three years ago) link

Just want to call out my favorite shot from the movie. The long zoom-out at the start of this clip, from what looks like a live musical performance to what is then revealed as a radio broadcast and then as a filmed scene of a radio broadcast. It breaks the 4th wall and just keeps on breaking them. I think it's a perfect little encapsulation of what the movie has to say about both filmmaking and storytelling in general, including the stories we tell ourselves. Also, it's just gorgeous to watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGOla3r6IhA

Yeah, that was good, just as you describe.

Bewlay Brothers & Sister Rrose (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 19 April 2021 16:07 (three years ago) link

and they're in drag!

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 April 2021 16:10 (three years ago) link

btw thanks to MD I briefly thought Justin Theroux was smokin' hot.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 April 2021 16:11 (three years ago) link

Same. I got over it by the Charlie's Angels sequel tho.

avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Monday, 19 April 2021 16:22 (three years ago) link

At which point I entered this phase:

https://i.redd.it/l803gndh1zc21.jpg

avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Monday, 19 April 2021 16:23 (three years ago) link

I’d never noticed that!

What is slow-watching, James? Like stopping and starting or actual slo-no?

Alba, Monday, 19 April 2021 16:31 (three years ago) link

and they're in drag!

Yep, another layer of masks/performances.

xp was just gonna ask is "slow-watching" ... watching a movie from front to back in normal time?

avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Monday, 19 April 2021 16:46 (three years ago) link

How do you view that scene in relation to Rebekah Del Rio's performance at Club Silencio?

Yawnsomely Literal Cover Band (morrisp), Monday, 19 April 2021 16:46 (three years ago) link

I never connected this scene to Club Silencio - no hay banda indeed

assert (MatthewK), Monday, 19 April 2021 16:47 (three years ago) link

oops sorry

assert (MatthewK), Monday, 19 April 2021 16:47 (three years ago) link

(btw, this is the point on which the interviewer weirdly tried to buttonhole Lynch, in that DVD booklet interview)

Yawnsomely Literal Cover Band (morrisp), Monday, 19 April 2021 16:49 (three years ago) link

(I hadn't made the connection, I'm too dense - guess the i'viewer wanted to show off that he did, lol)

Yawnsomely Literal Cover Band (morrisp), Monday, 19 April 2021 16:50 (three years ago) link

yeah me neither, is what my post was meant to say

another favourite little thing from this film is the way the camera continuously rises in the shots in Winkies while Dan describes his dream

assert (MatthewK), Monday, 19 April 2021 16:53 (three years ago) link

^word! when I first watched it, I was all "wtf?" Lynch actually talks about that in the same interview; apparently it took some work to rig up the right equipment for that effect in that small space (I had assumed it was just handheld).

Yawnsomely Literal Cover Band (morrisp), Monday, 19 April 2021 16:55 (three years ago) link

!!

assert (MatthewK), Monday, 19 April 2021 17:00 (three years ago) link

Yes, Eric H is correct, slow-watching is watching in normal time, maybe even backtracking on occasion, as opposed to running out of time because the purchase is due to expire and or it is time to sleep - what dreams may come? - and so FFWDing through bits and speedwatching.

Bewlay Brothers & Sister Rrose (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 19 April 2021 17:02 (three years ago) link

How do you view that scene in relation to Rebekah Del Rio's performance at Club Silencio?

I think both that scene and Betty's amazing audition scene relate directly to Club Silencio, all of them play with the ways film and art create artificial realities that can convey and resonate with deep, real emotions. It's kind of the ultimate magic trick, I'll show you how it's done, but you'll still feel it anyway.

Dum, da-dum
Da-da-da-da-da-da-da
Oh, baby, I've told every little star

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 19 April 2021 17:48 (three years ago) link

xp Nice, thx

Oh, baby, I've told every little star

I've always liked that song... not sure how I feel about it used in this context (can you ever hear Roy Orbison's "In Dreams" as non-creepy, after the Blue Velvet treatment?), but it was a good choice! (I had never heard "Sixteen Reasons Why I Love You" before.)

Yawnsomely Literal Cover Band (morrisp), Monday, 19 April 2021 17:56 (three years ago) link

idgi, who's in drag?

Cocteau Twinks (jed_), Monday, 19 April 2021 18:02 (three years ago) link

Does he use Roy Orbison in other films besides this one and the other canonical one mentioned?

Bewlay Brothers & Sister Rrose (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 19 April 2021 18:07 (three years ago) link

Hm. Apparently Lynch actually first heard "Crying," which led to him listening to more of the Big O and putting "In Dreams" in Blue Velvet. In my own Silencio Repertory Theater I will imagine how he would use "Leah" in a scene.

Bewlay Brothers & Sister Rrose (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 19 April 2021 18:20 (three years ago) link

Or what would have happened if he had discovered The Louvin Brothers instead.

Bewlay Brothers & Sister Rrose (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 19 April 2021 18:21 (three years ago) link

Here's Lynch on that song:

Rebekah just wanted to come over for a coffee and sing in front of us. She didn't want to record anything, but she came in and four minutes later—I think before she'd had her coffee—she's in the booth. And the one take that she sang, four minutes off the street, is the vocal that's in the film. THE ACTUAL RECORDING!

The weird thing is that she chose to sing that particular Roy Orbison song. I was about to start shooting Blue Velvet, and "Crying" came on the radio. I said, "Jeez! I've got to get that song to see if it would work in the film." In the end, it wasn't quite right, but I started listening to other cuts, and "In Dreams" came up. (...) Rebekah knows Barbara Orbison, Roy's second wife, and she's the one who translated "Crying" into Spanish, but it's just so strange that that was the song that was almost in Blue Velvet.

Yawnsomely Literal Cover Band (morrisp), Monday, 19 April 2021 18:30 (three years ago) link

Oh, so that's why there is a Barbara Orbison credit/thanks in there. Great story, thanks!

Bewlay Brothers & Sister Rrose (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 19 April 2021 19:28 (three years ago) link

I watched Bergman’s Persona last night, on HBO Max. I saw it college, but barely remembered the details (I’m just kultured enuff to have caught the general allusions in MD). It’s an interesting film; not exactly a masterpiece (though who am I to say). Awesome performances, of course.

Maybe I’ll revisit Altman’s 3 Women at some point (another one I saw decades ago), as I know it’s another touchpoint.

best time to call is friday and saturday afternoons! (morrisp), Sunday, 25 April 2021 01:44 (two years ago) link

Hour of the Wolf is another Bergman that has something in common with a number of Lynch films - a character disintegrating into his fantasies (or being victimized by their embodiment).

Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 25 April 2021 03:15 (two years ago) link

Huh, never heard of that one

best time to call is friday and saturday afternoons! (morrisp), Sunday, 25 April 2021 03:34 (two years ago) link

I wouldn't recommend it unless you've watched 60 other Bergman films.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 25 April 2021 03:45 (two years ago) link

3 women has many parallels with MD imo

The Silence has a number of shots in it that seem to have heavily influenced Lynch too. Basically he's a Bergman disciple.

john p. coltrane in hot pursuit (Matt #2), Sunday, 25 April 2021 09:20 (two years ago) link

Hadn’t thought about that but yeah.

I wouldn't recommend it unless you've watched 60 other Bergman films.

Lol

Bewlay Brothers & Sister Rrose (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 25 April 2021 13:21 (two years ago) link

I love Bergman's films from 1963 - 1969 and am ambivalent about the rest. I'd like to see The Touch, although the only critic who admired it was Robin Wood.

Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 25 April 2021 13:36 (two years ago) link

I wouldn't recommend it unless you've watched Hour of the Wolf first.

Ward Fowler, Sunday, 25 April 2021 14:46 (two years ago) link

Heh

Bewlay Brothers & Sister Rrose (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 25 April 2021 15:14 (two years ago) link

I saw a handful in college, but the only one I have a strong memory of is Scenes From a Marriage (which I loved).

best time to call is friday and saturday afternoons! (morrisp), Sunday, 25 April 2021 15:22 (two years ago) link

Previously I was only aware of the Ingrid Bergman connection.

A Stop at Quilloughby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 25 April 2021 15:28 (two years ago) link

Just want to call out my favorite shot from the movie. The long zoom-out at the start of this clip, from what looks like a live musical performance to what is then revealed as a radio broadcast and then as a filmed scene of a radio broadcast. It breaks the 4th wall and just keeps on breaking them. I think it's a perfect little encapsulation of what the movie has to say about both filmmaking and storytelling in general, including the stories we tell ourselves. Also, it's just gorgeous to watch.

― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, April 19, 2021 12:00 PM (six days ago) bookmarkflaglink

man good post have not watched this in too long, its kind of sad the popular conception of lynch is dark/weird/abstract which doesnt give him credit for mastery of the form

lag∞n, Sunday, 25 April 2021 15:57 (two years ago) link

Silencio.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 25 April 2021 16:21 (two years ago) link

I really have to ban myself from using the word vertiginous when talking about certain lynch moments but that (and inland empire locomotion) is this incredible moment where you feel the trapdoor give

Pinefox reviews Reviews (wins), Sunday, 25 April 2021 17:17 (two years ago) link

El resto es silencio.

A Stop at Quilloughby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 25 April 2021 19:01 (two years ago) link

I think Hour of the Wolf was maybe the 4th Bergman film I watched and I still like it, totally worth seeing as long as you like the idea of Bergman doing gothic horror.

JoeStork, Sunday, 25 April 2021 19:26 (two years ago) link

Yeah, I remember enjoying it, but that it was kind of atypical, Bergman-lite maybe, like almost a self-parody or close to what detractors thought he was doing.

A Stop at Quilloughby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 26 April 2021 00:04 (two years ago) link

Max von Sydow didn't turn into a werewolf, so it sucked

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 April 2021 00:05 (two years ago) link


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