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Saw this on the Hoffman board, can only hope it is true and photos may one day emerge:

Peter Gabriel's sister was a teacher at my primary school in the late 70s/early 80s. We had the Slipperman costume used in one of our school plays!

PaulTMA, Friday, 16 April 2021 22:14 (three years ago) link

Let's gooooooo
https://www.stereogum.com/2145905/genesis-announce-north-american-reunion-tour/news/

J. Sam, Thursday, 29 April 2021 14:45 (two years ago) link

why do I feel the tickets are gonna be like $300 apiece

frogbs, Thursday, 29 April 2021 15:07 (two years ago) link

lol because they will be? on the low end?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 April 2021 15:19 (two years ago) link

also lol at the "?" in the tour name.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 April 2021 15:20 (two years ago) link

Third, sad lol that the little Instagram announcement in that piece afaict uses the recorded versions of those songs instead of current live recordings/rehearsals. I did find these clips, though:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNR2YsfT37A

Which has the band rehearsing, Phil playing some drums and ... Chester also there? But I suspect this upcoming tour will probably be mostly Phil's son on drums.

And this, showing the realities of Phil trying to hit certain notes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD7om5JjYnU

And a very Spinal Tap moment:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpUKbHjvCCg

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 April 2021 15:28 (two years ago) link

Actually, no idea when these rehearsals are from, maybe 2007?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 April 2021 15:30 (two years ago) link

they're pros with infinite money so I'm sure they'll cobble together a decent show I just don't know...how

frogbs, Thursday, 29 April 2021 15:56 (two years ago) link

phil's not playing drums, bummer, but obviously he just must not be able

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 April 2021 16:12 (two years ago) link

XXP Josh that is taken from a long-form doc about the last reunion, which is pretty entertaining and has some very potent Spinal Tap moments.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9FuWw8ZuDo

Maresn3st, Thursday, 29 April 2021 18:10 (two years ago) link

I signed up for the pre-sale this morning. It's been 35 years since the last time I saw genesis play (also in a hockey arena). then after watching some of the rehearsal clips, i realized that attending this show would probably depress me more than anything... make me wonder how many more years until I'm not able to stay on my feet for 90 minutes. So $600 saved there, I guess?

enochroot, Thursday, 29 April 2021 19:59 (two years ago) link

Yeah, I thought they were great on the 2007 tour, but Phil did a very short solo tour a couple of years ago, and I thought clips from that were super sad.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 April 2021 20:16 (two years ago) link

ive never managed to see genesis live which is kind of insane considering how important they have been to me, so I want to do this, but dunno if I'm going to make it out to the east coast in the middle of fucking winter.

akm, Thursday, 29 April 2021 21:05 (two years ago) link

I saw them at Knebworth in 1992, a little while after my VERY INTENSE teenaged obsession with them had cooled into respectful nostalgia, and while the stuff off We Can't Dance was mostly a drag, the old epics medley at the end was great (cannot remember if Phil had outgrown all that Blues Brothers bullshit during Turn It On Again yet)

burnt hombre (stevie), Friday, 30 April 2021 08:34 (two years ago) link

This fella does a ton of 4K restorations (Cure, Pets, Madge, Bowie, Kate Bush.. ) they’re all pretty amazing. Someone should should do Tom Waits’ Big Time as that never even saw a DVD release.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC92pN2W0w8

piscesx, Friday, 30 April 2021 11:17 (two years ago) link

getting a 404 there, anyone else?

joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Friday, 30 April 2021 12:25 (two years ago) link

Same here but I'm guessing it's the Bataclan 4k restoration shared above?

burnt hombre (stevie), Friday, 30 April 2021 12:58 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxADO52UnLI

piscesx, Friday, 30 April 2021 13:04 (two years ago) link

InterlacedGeek is the username of the above YouTube account.

YouTube really is hopeless when it comes to linking people’s accounts. I bet their tech hasn’t changed in ten years

piscesx, Friday, 30 April 2021 13:06 (two years ago) link

Does this work?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=videos

burnt hombre (stevie), Friday, 30 April 2021 13:08 (two years ago) link

Nope no it doesn't

burnt hombre (stevie), Friday, 30 April 2021 13:08 (two years ago) link

Here it is, 4K:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxa6SVgT8CE

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 30 April 2021 13:11 (two years ago) link

A friend texted me this morning (something like "Dude, Genesis! You in?") and I told him I just couldn't do it. There have been a few beloved acts I've seen too late in their career which I probably should have skipped, since they left such a bad taste in my mouth. This tour, with Phil in a chair, supposedly backing vocalists for the first time, tickets that start at something like $300 for the nosebleeds (pre fee?) and I just couldn't do it. It'll likely be the last chance to see the group, but the way I figure it, I *did* get to see the group a few times, and this is not it. This is just a group of people that used to be in Genesis.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 May 2021 00:43 (two years ago) link

Same story here. My high school friend, who took me to my first concert, which happened to the Invisible Touch tour, got a bunch of tickets and is trying to talk me into it. Front row seats were $1900, but he got 4 in the rafters for $750. If I was in the same city as him, I'd probably go just for nostalgia's sake (and would probably come away disappointed).

BTW, the week before Genesis plays, The Musical Box is coming to town (playing "A Genesis Extravaganza, Volume 2"), and those tickets start at $63.

enochroot, Friday, 7 May 2021 01:29 (two years ago) link

Please tell me that's $750 all in and not each ticket.

electrical wizard (Matt #2), Friday, 7 May 2021 01:56 (two years ago) link

$750 all in

enochroot, Friday, 7 May 2021 02:18 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

Genesis live, Paris Bataclan 1973 long version, 16mm master in 4k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qMsr7jjQF0

this high def youtube rip is incredible

flopson, Saturday, 17 July 2021 16:50 (two years ago) link

the unofficial visual remasters of this material keep getting better and better

akm, Saturday, 17 July 2021 17:19 (two years ago) link

I've probably linked it before here but this guy is doing amazing restoration work on prog and art-rock films, things that are otherwise unavailable in this quality (he has an amazing restoration of Laurie Anderson's Home of the Brave, which still hasn't gotten an official HD release) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC7-qQFdlTO

akm, Saturday, 17 July 2021 17:22 (two years ago) link

well that didn't work. But the account name is BillFilm; search for BillFilm Genesis and all of that will come up.

akm, Saturday, 17 July 2021 17:23 (two years ago) link

MaresN3st's link (3 Months ago, April 15, scroll up a bit) has some technical information

StanM, Saturday, 17 July 2021 18:22 (two years ago) link

BillFilm says he has overdone the noise reduction on the Shepperton '73 footage and I agree:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCDm2KQL45o

vs the original:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZPzeJnuI-A

StanM, Saturday, 17 July 2021 18:28 (two years ago) link

Overdone the compression/multi-band limiting too by the sounds of it.

Maresn3st, Saturday, 17 July 2021 22:05 (two years ago) link

The drums sound amazing and the picture is really crisp in that 1973 Paris clip. I kind of wonder if Steve Hackett slept with a cameraman's girlfriend or something, though.

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Monday, 19 July 2021 14:27 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

Setlist from reunion tour first show

Duke’s End / Turn It On Again
Mama
Land of Confusion
Fading Lights / The Cinema Show / Afterglow (“Fading Lights” performed live since 1992)
That’s All / The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway / Follow You Follow Me (First time “That’s All” performed live since 1998)
Duchess (First time performed live since 1981)
No Son of Mine
Firth of Fifth / I Know What I Like (In Your Wardrobe)
Domino
Throwing It All Away
Tonight, Tonight, Tonight / Invisible Touch

Encore:
I Can’t Dance
Dancing With the Moonlit Knight / The Carpet Crawlers (First time “Dancing With the Moonlit Knight” performed live since 1998)

you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Monday, 20 September 2021 23:59 (two years ago) link

Banks told the BBC that it didn’t make sense to bring Gabriel back because “most of the songs people know” came after his departure. However, he did stress that “We love Peter.”

lol

jmm, Tuesday, 21 September 2021 00:07 (two years ago) link

we're gonna do a song that everybody knows
not some acid shit bout moonlit knights and dominoes

you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 September 2021 00:10 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxYhI9Baq3U

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 September 2021 00:19 (two years ago) link

jesus...

Phil sounds fucking TERRIBLE

you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 September 2021 00:22 (two years ago) link

flat all over the place, zero power, having background singers cover everything that's above middle C practically

then again, I ordered one of his pay per view specials in 1997 and even THEN I thought he sounded bad.

you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 September 2021 00:24 (two years ago) link

I thought he sounded a lot better than I expected, but no, not that good. It's just so sad. Totally unnecessary, almost a parody of the nursing home/rocker jokes people made when folks like this were merely in their '50s.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 September 2021 00:25 (two years ago) link

yeah I mean it feels like he's somewhere else. I get why. dude's in chronic pain and aging.

but lord, paying those prices to see that.

you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 September 2021 00:26 (two years ago) link

I hope that he legitimately wants to be doing it.

jmm, Tuesday, 21 September 2021 00:37 (two years ago) link

I find it hard to imagine legitimately wanting to play "I Can't Dance" but that's just me

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 21 September 2021 00:40 (two years ago) link

it's gonna sound like a doom metal song now probably

you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 September 2021 00:42 (two years ago) link

Fun fact: Ray Wilson is also on tour this fall, and he sounds about 100x better than Phil in 2021. Here's his version.
Pretty glad I didn't spring for tickets... it's hard to imagine coming away from this show feeling good about it.

enochroot, Tuesday, 21 September 2021 01:12 (two years ago) link

Jeez, Phil’s seven years younger than Daltrey, but sounds way older. Granted, their approaches are pretty different, but Phil sounds like he didn’t make any effort to keep his voice in shape at all.

Is Phil playing drums at all on these shows?

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 21 September 2021 01:34 (two years ago) link

That's not great, but at least he's actually singing, unlike Roger Waters at the show I saw.

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 21 September 2021 01:46 (two years ago) link

xpost Nope, Phil apparently can't even hold a drum stick. He reportedly remains seated the entire show. A review I read mentioned diabetes was among his many ailments, too. That was the first I'd read that, I think.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 September 2021 03:10 (two years ago) link

Jeez, Phil’s seven years younger than Daltrey, but sounds way older.

FWIW, I thought Daltrey's singing had been shakey for quite some time now, but he was surprisingly good on their 2019 album. I think someone here said he sounded better there than on any live or studio recording they've issued since Face Dances, and they're probably right. It's no masterpiece, but throw out "Beads" and "I'll Be Back" and miraculously it's actually a very good Who album.

birdistheword, Tuesday, 21 September 2021 03:17 (two years ago) link


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