The Ramones : Classic Or Dud

*ducks*

lol, yeah, I should've been able to put two and two together and realize that the kid from Star Trek didn't somehow age forty years between then and the late '70s but my brain, she does not always work so good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7MOseipVc8

He's some kind of ageless wonder, really, nothing to apologize for.

Davidson looks a lot more like Joey than he did Tom Zutaut.

Tranya trayna, we accept you
We accept you, one of us

Pleased to meet you, Captain.

Misspelled the second tranya, making my lame joke even lamer :(

Here's hoping Tommy's Hungarian childhood is covered.

Hope so.

Just noticed that a bunch of Ramones videos on Youtube that seem to be official have no sound right now.

Like this, the first hit for this song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HUGeA2lur4

But not this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GudM-IjhvSo

From some angles, Charlie Heaton is almost the spitting image of Dee Dee.

^I see it

https://celebrityxyz.com/i/p/2/69.jpg

Isn’t that another guy, SNL guy?

ramones mania is their best and a good start for beginners as i am not a huge fan of theirs but i could get into them more starting with their first release!

xp i think you're thinking of bill hader, lol

Yes, I was coming back to post exactly that. The SNL guy who likes R.A. Lafferty.

This is news, yeah? Saw it on Twitter a couple of days ago...

"JEFFREY HYMAN (JEFF STARSHIP ) (JOEY RAMONE) WITH HIS PRE RAMONES BAND, 'SNIPER' LIVE in THE UNDERGROUND TONIGHT SHOW in 1973"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQqGF8uW3Hw

Think so

Where are my safety pins? What'd you do with my safety pins, what is this?

Also, We're Outta Here just popped up in the play sequence and I am surprised at how much I am liking it.

i have ramones mania is good enough for me!

First four albums, the first live album and Too Tough to Die are all great. The rest have at least one or two excellent tracks.

I can agree with that except I never listened to To Tough to Die. Guess I will give it a try soon.

it's a good one!

yeah too tough to die is great!

First four albums, the first live album and Too Tough to Die are all great. The rest have at least one or two excellent tracks.

First five albums I'd say.

First 4 + Too Tough to Die otm

Their debut is by far their best. I'd say Pleasant Dreams has as many good songs as Rocket to Russia.

xxp The Spector album didn't live up to my hopes, but it's got great stuff, especially "Danny Says." Definitely worth checking out.

An argument for the '80s albums.

The ‘80s albums have to be argued for, the ‘70s ones speak for themselves

I love a lot of stuff the 80s albums. Animal Boy is what brought me into the fold, so that's the one that will always have my heart. I want synths in my Ramones! Mental Hell does not feel 2.5 minutes long to me. That song is epic. After that, I bought Brain Drain. When I then went back to get the first album, it was truly a different band that it took a few listens for me to understand, kinda like this guy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ybn8hqTj8s

I've been waiting for a while for a reissue of the 80s albums, and lo and behold this Record Store Day, there is a 7-LP box set (Pleasant Dreams, Subterranean Jungle, Too Tough To Die, Animal Boy, Halfway To Sanity, Brain Drain, and a rarities disc). But I definitely don't want to buy a 7-LP box set of the 80s Ramones records. I could make do with maybe half of them. Really hope they all get re-released on their own after this.

On my Ramones poll ballot, I didn't even have anything from the 70s until 9th place, that's where my head is at.

1. Poison Heart - I just want to walk right out of a world where Poison Heart didn't even place in a Ramones poll.
2. Howling at the Moon (Sha-La-La)
3. Pet Semetary
4. I Wanna Live
5. I Believe In Miracles
6. Something To Believe In
7. Eat That Rat
8. Love Kills
9. I Just Wanna Have Something to Do
10. Chinese Rock
11. 53rd & 3rd
12. Mental Hell
13. Loudmouth
14. Don’t Bust My Chops
15. Mama’s Boy
16. My Brain Is Hanging Upside Down (Bonzo Goes To Bitburg)
17. Havana Affair
18. Judy Is a Punk
19. Apeman Hop
20. She Belongs to Me
21. We Want the Airwaves
22. Danny Says
23. Merry Christmas (I Don't Want to Fight Tonight)
24. We’re a Happy Family
25. Rockaway Beach

The Ramones’ career after the first couple of albums was one long continuous attempt to sell out, with no one ever buying. Doing 1960s covers didn’t work. Working with Phil Spector didn’t work. Doing a Roger Corman film didn’t work. Adding synthesizers didn’t work. Theme song to a Stephen King movie didn’t work.

Rhino's two-CD Hey! Ho! Let's Go! anthology does a good job of cherrypicking from the '80s, maybe even an amazing job if you don't think it's too generous. (It's in chronological order and the Spector cuts close the first disc.)

It's also my introduction to the Ramones. I knew OF them thanks to The Simpsons but I didn't really know who they were until I read an L.A. Times review for Rhino's set that explained their place in rock history. I found that set later at my library and it wasn't long before I got those first four albums.

Yeah, I had Hey Ho for a while back in the day. It's pretty solid.

I like Pleasant Dreams so much I wrote a whole thread about it. And yeah, TTTD is really good too. Animal Boy has some filler, but it also has Richie Ramone's great "Somebody Put Something in My Drink," plus "Bonzo Goes to Bitburg." (And "Crummy Stuff," maybe as close as Dee Dee got in the '80s to writing like it was 1976.)

"Somebody Put Something in My Drink" is actually the first Ramones song I remember encountering. I was a kid, somewhere in the single digits in age, and my parents took me to someone's home and it was playing in the basement where their kids were. Like pop music in general was still esoteric for me and it was such a weird song to me the title lyric just stuck. I never heard that song again but I always remembered it, and I was surprised to find it on Hey! Ho!, like "Wow, THESE are the guys who did that song?"

Because I am lolold it's fascinating to me that youngsters could have first encountered The Ramones via Animal Boy, or via The Simpsons. It's a whole different viewpoint than mine. Cool, actually.

Yes, exactly.

The first Ramones thing I ever heard was It's Alive - I remember thinking it was all the same song but that soon changed

The first time I heard the Ramones, it was Eat That Rat. When I was in elementary school, maybe 4th or 5th grade, I would just sit up in my room spinning the radio dial and taping whatever music I found. On this particular late 80s day, I landed on a station that may have been a pre-corporate WHFS. The songs I got that day were Eat That Rat by Ramones, Rise Above by Black Flag, Peek-a-Boo by Siouxsie and the Banshees, and a cover of Helter Skelter by Mighty Sphincter. Then they segued into a report on Orioles baseball. I really dug the first two and sought out their albums a year or two later; there was a lot I didn't understand about the Siouxsie song and she kinda scared me a little; and later that day when I asked my parents what "sphincter" meant, it was definitely an awkward moment.

Wish I still had that tape.

My sister-in-law had Rocket to Russia and Road to Ruin, which I don't remember playing but certainly did read the lyric sheet. My other brother had lots of English punk but no Ramones. My first encounter with them as a music fan would have been the "Something to Believe In" video, all of which gave me the impression they were a "funny" band, like Devo.

So many good cameos in that video.

The first album I heard was Leave Home, in maybe 1986 or '87. I definitely owned it, the debut, and Rocket to Russia before Ramones Mania came out in '88. I only saw them live once, in 1989 or 1990, and they were amazing — it felt like they played 50 songs in an hour and a half. (It was really only about 30, but they absolutely blasted through them.) The opening acts were GBH and Warzone, and I remember a lot of punk vs skin fights before the Ramones came on.

A friend saw them on the Escape from New York tour in 1990, where Chris Frantz of Tom Tom Club came onstage right after the Ramones begging people to stay for their set.

I saw that tour! Debbie Harry headlined. I still have the t-shirt.