Velvet Underground Trainspotting Question

when the question is "did zappa hate ____?", the answer is always yes

https://alextemplemusic.com/2015/08/the-man-who-hated-everything/

When Frankie’s in town

Did we talk about this yet? Released in October:

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2021/jul/07/the-velvet-underground-review-todd-haynes-doc-gets-under-the-art-rockers-skin

Um,…oh wait, it’s a documentary? Okay, then, game on!

The Velvet Underground: A Documentary Film by Todd Haynes

Would it have killed Haynes to choose even a slightly sexier title(?)

i get the impression there's gonna be a lot of stuff about Nico/banana album in this

I'm not expecting too much about Doug Yule.

He gets a film of his own, at Christmas.

I want a ten hour doc on Billy Yule

Just Wait’ll We Get Our Haynes on Yule

Yule be sorry if you don't watch this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWq7a8Tin8g

I wish this had been made when at least Lou Reed was still alive

Watched it last night. Overall pretty good. Long interviews with the likes of John Cale, Moe Tucker, Jonathan Richman, Pickwick producer Terry Phillips, Sterling's wife Martha, Lou's sister, Merrill, Lou's Syracuse girlfriend, Shelley Albin, along with the a few other friends from long ago. Oh yeah, Mary Woronov does her shtick too. Doug Yule gets a fair enough shake. John says he was aware the Yule era but gracefully avoids commenting. Visually there are lots of Chelsea Girl-style splitscreens of avant-garde NYC film from the era to round out all the Warhol. JBL/R wrote a great thread on Friendbook about seeing it at Lincoln Center.

Cale said in the early 70s that the only song from that era he liked was "Sweet Jane". He was also the only member of the group who wanted Yule to join the 1993 reunion, largely so he wouldn't be stuck playing bass.

He plays on one of the (many) versions of "Ocean", I could see him liking that one.

Cale's on a couple of tracks on "Loaded", including the unused "Ocean". (xpost)

There's a list of the tracks he played Piano on, contradicted by Doug who played piano on some tracks as well, as in "that's much better playing that I can do, that must be John.."

I thought Ocean was the only thing he played on?

In the same way Cale avoids talking about Doug, Merrill demurs from discussing the family drama/shock treatment side of things, saying it would do a disservice to Lou and their parents. I can see her point and you can always (re)read her take about it here: https://medium.com/cuepoint/a-family-in-peril-lou-reed-s-sister-sets-the-record-straight-about-his-childhood-20e8399f84a3

very psyched to see this film

Ha, would love to hear your take on it.

considering an Apple TV subscription

What else would you watch?

Velvets all day.

B-b-but what about Beastie Boys?

I'll ch-ch-check it out.

lol would love to hear alfred's take on ted lasso

Indeed. I would recommend For All Mankind to him but not sure that is his kind of show.

My sister appears to be watching this in Glasgow right now.

lol would love to hear alfred's take on ted lasso

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown

I watched an episode!

What did you think?

The quality of Apple TV+'s catalog isn't very good, at least not yet, but honestly this needs to be seen on the biggest screen possible. The NYFF was perfect for it - Alice Tully Hall had an enormous screen and I'm sure the screen at the Damrosch Park showing was probably enormous too. Lincoln Center and Film Forum have already begun screening it, and it'll play for at least two full weekends.

As mentioned, Haynes emulated Warhol and others with multiple film reels playing on screen all at once. Those moments are packed with so many dense, moving visuals, it's pretty awesome to be immersed in it. I can't imagine a regular TV or a computer (much less an iPad) having the same charge, especially with the Velvets coming out of the built-in speakers.

Oh dip I just saw this is a playing at theater near me this wknd! Can't wait

yah seeing this in the theater specifically to avoid an apple+ sub lol

It's circulating on torrent sites too.
Copy I just saw was pretty pristine.
Has footage I haven't seen before .
I may need to rewatch cos I keep falling asleep in front of the tv at the moment then having to rewind things.
But very good.

Just watched this, a doc on Moe Tucker by Cam Forrester, and it was a lot better than I expected. For those who can't see the movie for a while.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26Y-qPglJQ0

"Much better than the trailer" I've been reliably informed... VU doc not Moe doc, that is.

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/looneytunes/images/0/0b/Foghorn-Leghorn.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150112233827

"A VU doc, that is!"

Watching it now, absolutely gobsmacked by how great it is. Chaotic collage of images and footage, flashes, vibes, and voices talking all around the story. Absolutely worthy of its subject.

Agreed; one of the better music documentaries I’ve seen in years. The only disappointment for me — and it’s a minor point — was showing photos of the two reunions (‘90 and ‘93) without any context. It’s made clear that they did reunite, but they don’t say when or why (or why they broke up again just prior to the ‘93 US tour announcement).

The only disappointment -- a major one -- is how it occurred to no one to airbrush Reed's Poppy Bush Interzone mullet.

Q:

why they broke up again

A:

Reed's Poppy Bush Interzone mullet

otm

i watched this last night; extremely good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awXiIpiBp38

cale and eno recording Words for the Dying

(xp) I'll give you one guess who was responsible for them breaking up again.

(xp) I'll give you one guess who was responsible for them breaking up again.

I can see why the reunion wasn't included because how that reunion came to a pre-mature end is quite a shitty way of ending the band's story.

That mullet outlasted the Poppy Bush Interzone...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkxSWRknOL4

Lou on Leno in '94, an appearance initially booked as the Velvets to promote the live album.

got tix for tomorrow in a theater, totally stoked

It’s playing at the Charles in Baltimore this coming week

I can see why the reunion wasn't included because how that reunion came to a pre-mature end is quite a shitty way of ending the band's story.

― birdistheword, Saturday, October 16, 2021 12:50 PM (forty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I knew it boiled down to "Lou was being a dick," but I didn't realize to what extent he was being a dick. I'd always seen the end of the '93 reunion portrayed as, "Cale wanted to do new songs, Lou didn't, and that was that." It definitely makes sense now that it wasn't addressed in the film; why end on a bitter note?

I did read somewhere -- and I can't remember where and can't find it -- that one point Reed and Cale agreed on in '93 was that any US tour would not include NYC. They felt the city hadn't supported them in the '60s, so why do what could be interpreted as a "homecoming" or "thank you" performance there in the '90s?

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