Stratocaster vs. Telecaster

xxxposts congrats on going with it ums. that looks like a glorious ride.

look at this murderer

https://reverb.com/shop/douglas-re-imagined-instruments

https://reverb.com/item/33582205-telecaster-style-douglas-usa-electric-guitar-fender-usa-pickups-and-saddles-partscaster

like renovating a kitchen by leaving all functional equipment the same but replacing the floor with rope netting

Here at Douglas Renovated Instrument Co., I take in and evaluate less than perfect or perhaps otherwise lackluster guitars from famous makers . I then begin the process of fixing, upgrading, crafting and reshaping them into affordable, treasured, comfortable, quality instruments for years to come. Through this process I squeeze out the absolute best instrument possible for an affordable price

Always impressed by/jealous of the self-confidence of these people - he didn’t just take a chance on ruining one guitar to see how people would respond, he ruined perhaps dozens of them just knowing in his heart people would love them.

when you're torn between being a vintage fender enthusiast but also really love steinberger basses

"mostly I squeeze the guitar body through a somewhat H-shaped hole. this is an upgrade to the old guitar shape, which was not looking like an H at all."

i ... don't hate the body shape. it's mostly the body shape combined with the standard strat/tele pickups and pickguards that looks dumb

bizarrely reminiscent of those no-headstock steinbergers

it's like an 8th grade shop class tried to make an Ovation Breadwinner

https://reverb.com/item/39403721-ovation-modified-rat-rod-electric-guitar-rebuilt-breadwinner-1970s-black

One of the best threads on Offset Guitars details the "un-Voxing" of a 1961 Jazzmaster.
https://www.offsetguitars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=111273

the "butchering of a classic" aspect of that reminds me that somewhere in the woods next to my parent's old house is my uncle's original late 60s dallas arbiter fuzz face (Reverb Estimated Used Price $1,340 — $3,035) that my cousin and I buried because it looked like a land mine

hahaha wow

lmao incredible

you need a metal detector
geddit?

One of the best threads on Offset Guitars details the "un-Voxing" of a 1961 Jazzmaster.
https://www.offsetguitars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=111273

― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, April 21, 2021 5:20 PM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is absolutely amazing. i'm so impressed at people who can do stuff like this.

well, it's been an emotional roller coaster! found my dream guitar upthread...bought it

right away get a message from the seller, hey thanks i'll ship it asap, all cool
next day he's like UPS location closed early, couldn't get it all the packing stuff and get it out, okay cool no worries

weekend goes by...no word...write on monday, write hey just wondering if it's going out today, just let me know

he writes back:
Hi there, I want to greatly apologize for this inconvenience, but I won’t be able to ship this out anymore. It’s my first time dealing with this situation, and to proceed I am initiating a full refund here through reverb. Again, I apologize for this whole situation.

so I write back, i'm a little confused here, anything can be shipped. do you want $75 for shipping instead of $50 (this is chicago to minneapolis so i think that's more than generous), never writes back...i get a refund to my account, write again hey if we can work something out let me know...never hear back

today though I went to Music Go Round to check out this Godin guitar. I'm a huge fan of their guitars especially the Seagull acoustics. Quality wise they are really amazing for the money. Only problem, usually their designs are a little "off" and dorky looking, but this new model looks pretty cool (looks better in IRL than in photos)

https://godinguitars.com/product/radium-winchester-brown-rn

not as cool as the tele, but honestly this thing just feels and sounds so good. it's weird, tele shape but it has a belly cut like a strat...neck is actually shorter, like a gibson sg neck kinda?

HSH pickups, tele style switch but 5-way...coil tap for the humbuckers so it can basically be a strat or super strat

the woodgrain looks really nice IRL, the shape is decent, not quite tele but close enough. the whole guitar just feels exceptionally high quality, got a good price on it. for a (mostly) home recording guitar it's got about as much flexibility as you'd want.

i think it might look good with a bigsby down the road

that's nice looking, especially as godins go. are you thinking about doing a filtertron in one of the HB slots?

yeah I think so, the humbuckers do sound good though

the fit/finish is pretty incredible for a $750

I think a Bigsby will make it look better

bummer about the offerup fiasco. wonder if he got a better offer after the fact and bailed.

yeah sounds like. randos are gonna flake whether it's on reverb or anywhere else.

just noticed that the godin has that kind of open routing around the pickups. nice utilitarian vibe.

shout out to joanie - they had a really great catalog beyond sex packets

lol oops but yeah I like the routing

lol

not personally feeling the Guthrie Govan x tele x stoptail vibe BUT I def know the feeling when an oddball gets its hooks in.

if it plays good it is good!

Lol at “pro reliced”

https://reverb.com/item/40275573-fender-2021-mim-limited-custom-color-capri-orange-standard-player-pro-reliced-upgraded-62reissue-usa?utm_source=rev-ios-app&utm_medium=ios-share&utm_campaign=listing&utm_content=40275573

OMG

Is the professional doing the relicing like an accountant or something?

that is someone who started to take off the inch thick polyester finish to repaint it and then realized how much work was going to be involved

When the stage blowtorch bit goes wrong

what on earth are these people doing to these guitars
https://reverb.com/item/40331699-charvel-custom-chop-shop-heavy-relic-pro-mod-dk24-hh-2pt-stained-maple-neck-with-tweed-hard-case

THOSE GUITARS SUCK A LOT

AND I AM ANGRY ABOUT IT

comedy gold

In my head I can see the """luthier""" going to town with a chisel and hammer while the Meat Loaf song about killing a boy with a Stratocaster plays.

that guitar looks like it has some kind of tree disease

Reliced guitars are the stupidest trend ever.

I don't really get the appeal of the Esquire, I don't understand why you'd want one over a Telecaster, you're just giving yourself less options and not gaining anything (and I mean it's not like the Telecaster is some overly complex guitar to begin with)

https://guitar.com/news/gear-news/squier-esquire/?amp

I'd be kind of shocked if those weren't routed for a neck pickup anyway rather than setting up some sort of new cnc machine to NOT cut them

the Brad Paisley Equire even goes so far to hide his special "Secret Agent" neck pickup underneath the pickguard! like what are we doing this for?

https://shop.fender.com/en-US/electric-guitars/telecaster/brad-paisley-esquire/0140322398.html

wow that one is extremely silly.

and yeah, as for the esquire in general it's funny to treat it as some sort of classic model and not what it was which was a budget option based on 1950s cost factors where the extra $20 or whatever for a second pickup actually mattered.

i'm sure it's cool if you find an actually old one

being the guy who relics guitars seems like a fun job, just flinging acid and whipping belt buckles at ugly guitars all day

Technically an Esquire should have wiring that you can't replicate with a Telecaster but I don't know how modern ones are wired.

I use the bridge pickup 99% of the time, I would like an Esquire.

The secret pickup on the Paisley doesn't seem any sillier than any of the million other aesthetic concerns that govern guitar purchases - "looking cool" (whether that means pointy metal guitars or looking like a 1952 Bakersfield guitar to you) is why Fender is worth half a billion dollars.

Reliced guitars are the stupidest trend ever.

― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Thursday, April 29, 2021 6:32 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

natural wear with strange mods will never not be cool tho

Been enjoying this thread. I like Telecaster and Strat equally now but didn’t like like Strats for a long time as they seemed like guitars for high schoolers.

Question for all you guitar nerds regarding reliced guitars: you see like Bruce Springsteen or whoever playing this super beat up looking guitar that looks cool from all the use and abuse over the years. Man! He’s really been playing the shit outta that guitar!! So cool that people want to buy new guitars that look distressed.

I have a guitar, an American Tele, that my band bought new about 20 years ago. That band was drunk and irreverent and very hard on our equipment, and toured quite a bit with that guitar. The band broke up and I ended up with the guitar and formed another band that toured hard for years with that guitar. That was the only guitar I played for twenty years and hundreds upon hundreds of shows. Dropping it. Throwing it in air to band members on stage. Throwing into the crowd. Seeing luggage handlers throwing it (in its case and breaking multiple cases) across the tarmac from the plane.
This guitar does not look distressed or worn out AT ALL. It has nicks all over it but that’s about it.

I also have a 70’s Musicmaster bass that someone found in a barn behind an abandoned house and that one has been on several tours and it doesn’t look beat up either.

I am inclined to think all beat up guitars are frauds and these people are taking sand paper to try to make them look road worn.

Thoughts?

poly finishes don't wear like nitro

It's a Telecaster, their durability is both myth and some time joke meme in some musician circles.