Stratocaster vs. Telecaster

spottie - be curious on your opinion but i don't detect a ton of different between the higher end squier stuff (classic vibe, vintage modified, etc) and the MIM stuff anymore

looks great! big fan of buying stuff with the mods you want already done so you can get right down to enjoying the guitar.

the good squier stuff is really good. loads of pros use squier and just mod them like what you're doing. that one you got will hold value, if not increase (if you care about such things). the mim stuff is really great. there was always this unspoken competition between the corona factory and ensenada factory. the mexico factory had a ton of pride in their work and wanted to show they could make guitars better or at least as good. they would take on some pretty cool projects (like the troy van luween jazzmaster). the main issue you'll find with mim stuff is like fret sprout. tonal differences and playability are minimal between mim/squier and if you're putting new pickups in and coloring it with pedals/fx then it doesnt matter. classic vibe/VM squiers are almost too good, there was rumblings of making them worse to not eat into the fender line but in the end i think they just raised the prices.

that's interesting, love all the inside baseball stuff like that

shit that blows my mind is the custom shop stuff people pay so much money for something that still like 90% a stock American strat with a cool color and a couple interesting wiring gimmicks

https://www.chicagomusicexchange.com/products/fender-custom-shop-1960-stratocaster-chicago-special-1026985?variant=39299360161927

custom shop is mostly all prestige collectibles for rich boomers, not really much more to it. they sell like CRAZY tho believe it or not. even inside a lot of the people roll eyes at the relic stuff but when they do their showcase at namm that stuff sells to dealers really fast. the master builders are mostly all super nice though and they really love what they and they do some incredible work (yuriy shishkov's stuff is insane and super gaudy but if that's your thing and you have unlimited funds then there's no one better). it's not unlike the sneaker head market really, most people dont get it but it's not for most people. the custom shop calendars are hilarious, just so much nonsense made for people with zero taste. having said all that i own a (non-relic'd) master built strat :)

there was pretty big drama when we got this one new ceo and he wanted to create a regular fender line (fender select) with like all snazzy appointments and figured woods and what not and it was basically just a custom shop guitar for a few hundred less. so much dumb leadership in my tenure but they seem to be in a really great place right now. he was trying to take them public but luckily it fell through at the last minute.

lol at 9.5" radius being "a modern upgrade" as if it wasn't possible in the 60s.
7.25 til I die baby, except of course for acoustics and my wonderful Casino.

xxxposts congrats on going with it ums. that looks like a glorious ride.

look at this murderer

https://reverb.com/shop/douglas-re-imagined-instruments

https://reverb.com/item/33582205-telecaster-style-douglas-usa-electric-guitar-fender-usa-pickups-and-saddles-partscaster

like renovating a kitchen by leaving all functional equipment the same but replacing the floor with rope netting

Here at Douglas Renovated Instrument Co., I take in and evaluate less than perfect or perhaps otherwise lackluster guitars from famous makers . I then begin the process of fixing, upgrading, crafting and reshaping them into affordable, treasured, comfortable, quality instruments for years to come. Through this process I squeeze out the absolute best instrument possible for an affordable price

Always impressed by/jealous of the self-confidence of these people - he didn’t just take a chance on ruining one guitar to see how people would respond, he ruined perhaps dozens of them just knowing in his heart people would love them.

when you're torn between being a vintage fender enthusiast but also really love steinberger basses

"mostly I squeeze the guitar body through a somewhat H-shaped hole. this is an upgrade to the old guitar shape, which was not looking like an H at all."

i ... don't hate the body shape. it's mostly the body shape combined with the standard strat/tele pickups and pickguards that looks dumb

bizarrely reminiscent of those no-headstock steinbergers

it's like an 8th grade shop class tried to make an Ovation Breadwinner

https://reverb.com/item/39403721-ovation-modified-rat-rod-electric-guitar-rebuilt-breadwinner-1970s-black

One of the best threads on Offset Guitars details the "un-Voxing" of a 1961 Jazzmaster.
https://www.offsetguitars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=111273

the "butchering of a classic" aspect of that reminds me that somewhere in the woods next to my parent's old house is my uncle's original late 60s dallas arbiter fuzz face (Reverb Estimated Used Price $1,340 — $3,035) that my cousin and I buried because it looked like a land mine

hahaha wow

lmao incredible

you need a metal detector
geddit?

One of the best threads on Offset Guitars details the "un-Voxing" of a 1961 Jazzmaster.
https://www.offsetguitars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=111273

― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, April 21, 2021 5:20 PM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is absolutely amazing. i'm so impressed at people who can do stuff like this.

well, it's been an emotional roller coaster! found my dream guitar upthread...bought it

right away get a message from the seller, hey thanks i'll ship it asap, all cool
next day he's like UPS location closed early, couldn't get it all the packing stuff and get it out, okay cool no worries

weekend goes by...no word...write on monday, write hey just wondering if it's going out today, just let me know

he writes back:
Hi there, I want to greatly apologize for this inconvenience, but I won’t be able to ship this out anymore. It’s my first time dealing with this situation, and to proceed I am initiating a full refund here through reverb. Again, I apologize for this whole situation.

so I write back, i'm a little confused here, anything can be shipped. do you want $75 for shipping instead of $50 (this is chicago to minneapolis so i think that's more than generous), never writes back...i get a refund to my account, write again hey if we can work something out let me know...never hear back

today though I went to Music Go Round to check out this Godin guitar. I'm a huge fan of their guitars especially the Seagull acoustics. Quality wise they are really amazing for the money. Only problem, usually their designs are a little "off" and dorky looking, but this new model looks pretty cool (looks better in IRL than in photos)

https://godinguitars.com/product/radium-winchester-brown-rn

not as cool as the tele, but honestly this thing just feels and sounds so good. it's weird, tele shape but it has a belly cut like a strat...neck is actually shorter, like a gibson sg neck kinda?

HSH pickups, tele style switch but 5-way...coil tap for the humbuckers so it can basically be a strat or super strat

the woodgrain looks really nice IRL, the shape is decent, not quite tele but close enough. the whole guitar just feels exceptionally high quality, got a good price on it. for a (mostly) home recording guitar it's got about as much flexibility as you'd want.

i think it might look good with a bigsby down the road

that's nice looking, especially as godins go. are you thinking about doing a filtertron in one of the HB slots?

yeah I think so, the humbuckers do sound good though

the fit/finish is pretty incredible for a $750

I think a Bigsby will make it look better

bummer about the offerup fiasco. wonder if he got a better offer after the fact and bailed.

yeah sounds like. randos are gonna flake whether it's on reverb or anywhere else.

just noticed that the godin has that kind of open routing around the pickups. nice utilitarian vibe.

shout out to joanie - they had a really great catalog beyond sex packets

lol oops but yeah I like the routing

lol

not personally feeling the Guthrie Govan x tele x stoptail vibe BUT I def know the feeling when an oddball gets its hooks in.

if it plays good it is good!

Lol at “pro reliced”

https://reverb.com/item/40275573-fender-2021-mim-limited-custom-color-capri-orange-standard-player-pro-reliced-upgraded-62reissue-usa?utm_source=rev-ios-app&utm_medium=ios-share&utm_campaign=listing&utm_content=40275573

OMG

Is the professional doing the relicing like an accountant or something?

that is someone who started to take off the inch thick polyester finish to repaint it and then realized how much work was going to be involved

When the stage blowtorch bit goes wrong

what on earth are these people doing to these guitars
https://reverb.com/item/40331699-charvel-custom-chop-shop-heavy-relic-pro-mod-dk24-hh-2pt-stained-maple-neck-with-tweed-hard-case

THOSE GUITARS SUCK A LOT

AND I AM ANGRY ABOUT IT

comedy gold

In my head I can see the """luthier""" going to town with a chisel and hammer while the Meat Loaf song about killing a boy with a Stratocaster plays.

that guitar looks like it has some kind of tree disease

Reliced guitars are the stupidest trend ever.

I don't really get the appeal of the Esquire, I don't understand why you'd want one over a Telecaster, you're just giving yourself less options and not gaining anything (and I mean it's not like the Telecaster is some overly complex guitar to begin with)

https://guitar.com/news/gear-news/squier-esquire/?amp

I'd be kind of shocked if those weren't routed for a neck pickup anyway rather than setting up some sort of new cnc machine to NOT cut them

the Brad Paisley Equire even goes so far to hide his special "Secret Agent" neck pickup underneath the pickguard! like what are we doing this for?

https://shop.fender.com/en-US/electric-guitars/telecaster/brad-paisley-esquire/0140322398.html

wow that one is extremely silly.

and yeah, as for the esquire in general it's funny to treat it as some sort of classic model and not what it was which was a budget option based on 1950s cost factors where the extra $20 or whatever for a second pickup actually mattered.

i'm sure it's cool if you find an actually old one

being the guy who relics guitars seems like a fun job, just flinging acid and whipping belt buckles at ugly guitars all day