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I’m planning on waltzing about like I’m invincible post vax myself

Canon in Deez (silby), Thursday, 15 April 2021 02:25 (three years ago) link

India is reporting 200,000 new Covid cases and 1,000 Covid deaths today. That's a doubling in both over the past nine days.

I know that no one in the US MSM cares about this stuff, but we should. If these numbers don't roll over soon, this is going to be a global catastrophe.

— Ben Hunt (@EpsilonTheory) April 14, 2021

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 15 April 2021 09:07 (three years ago) link

There’s a Tokyo variant now and is seems to be driving rapidly rising case numbers in Osaka.

American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Thursday, 15 April 2021 10:43 (three years ago) link

India is likely only reporting a fraction of the actual deaths too xp.

https://scroll.in/article/992217/as-the-dead-pile-up-in-gujarat-the-states-media-is-on-a-warpath-with-the-government-over-covid-19

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Thursday, 15 April 2021 10:45 (three years ago) link

Mexico's getting slammed too. Nearly every week my wife is telling me about a classmate's parent dying.

frogbs, Thursday, 15 April 2021 13:23 (three years ago) link

CDC identifies only 5,800 Covid-19 infections after the final vaccine, out of more than 66 million. And those who got it had mild cases. https://t.co/gvBu6s1mlQ

— Eliza Collins (@elizacollins1) April 15, 2021

To be clear, not every single post vaccine case has been mild — but most have. There have been 74 out 66 million people who have died after being vaccinated.

— Eliza Collins (@elizacollins1) April 15, 2021

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 15 April 2021 14:10 (three years ago) link

Anti-vaxxers: SO YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S A CHANCE

P-Zunit (Neanderthal), Thursday, 15 April 2021 14:18 (three years ago) link

in all seriousness, though, that's fantastic levels of effectiveness there.

that's why I got so angry at people who kept saying "95% efficacy means 5% of people who get vaccines will still get sick". no, no no, lab-based "efficacy" and real world "effectiveness" are different measures, you can't just extrapolate the math from one to the other.

P-Zunit (Neanderthal), Thursday, 15 April 2021 14:26 (three years ago) link

There have been 74 out 66 million people who have died after being vaccinated.

assuming this means to say "of Covid" but I'm kind of curious who these people were and what age they were & preexisting conditions they had

frogbs, Thursday, 15 April 2021 14:29 (three years ago) link

I feel like if they had meant "of COVID", they would have said that, though?

P-Zunit (Neanderthal), Thursday, 15 April 2021 14:34 (three years ago) link

Eh, the "of COVID" implication feels fairly clear to me, but I guess this is why it should be more explicitly explained!

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 15 April 2021 14:36 (three years ago) link

Vaccines make you essentially immortal, is what I take from that.

You Can't Have the Woogie Without a Little Boogie (Old Lunch), Thursday, 15 April 2021 14:38 (three years ago) link

About time we had immortality.

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Thursday, 15 April 2021 14:57 (three years ago) link

I think it is not at all clear that this means "of COVID". I read a little while back of a number of seniors who died after getting vaxxed, but the numbers were in line with the death rate for octogenarians and it wasn't at all clear that COVID was a factor at all.

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Thursday, 15 April 2021 14:58 (three years ago) link

yeah I hate to make the distinction between "died from Covid" and "died WITH Covid" but when you're talking about such a miniscule percentage it might be relevant

frogbs, Thursday, 15 April 2021 15:03 (three years ago) link

I'm gonna err on the side of 'died from COVID' because if only 74 out of 66 million vaccinated people have died period then we've essentially solved the problem of death.

You Can't Have the Woogie Without a Little Boogie (Old Lunch), Thursday, 15 April 2021 15:13 (three years ago) link

oh you're definitely right just wondering if any of them fell within the category of people who were otherwise low risk. because right now there's this narrative going around that the vaccine is "only 95% effective" meaning that for 5% of people it "doesn't work" which obviously is something I want to push back on

frogbs, Thursday, 15 April 2021 15:16 (three years ago) link

Pfizer recipients cannot be killed by conventional weapons

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 15 April 2021 15:32 (three years ago) link

There’s a Tokyo variant now and is seems to be driving rapidly rising case numbers in Osaka.

― American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Thursday, 15 April 2021 bookmarkflaglink

India is likely only reporting a fraction of the actual deaths too xp.

https://scroll.in/article/992217/as-the-dead-pile-up-in-gujarat-the-states-media-is-on-a-warpath-with-the-government-over-covid-19

― Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Thursday, 15 April 2021 bookmarkflaglink

Mexico's getting slammed too. Nearly every week my wife is telling me about a classmate's parent dying.

― frogbs, Thursday, 15 April 2021 bookmarkflaglink

If you are not in Europe, US and a few other countries the end of this is nowhere near in sight.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 15 April 2021 15:39 (three years ago) link

About time we had immortality.

Herd immortality is where it's at.

pomenitul, Thursday, 15 April 2021 15:41 (three years ago) link

not if you're Highlander

P-Zunit (Neanderthal), Thursday, 15 April 2021 16:10 (three years ago) link

posted itt because it was a COVID hearing and he was idiotically demanding to know from Fauci what vaccination level would allow people to "restore their liberties".

P-Zunit (Neanderthal), Thursday, 15 April 2021 19:11 (three years ago) link

"1 Brazilian"

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 15 April 2021 19:57 (three years ago) link

'Double mutant' most common variant now: India's genome data

The analysis shows for the first time how the detection of various variants of the coronavirus may have changed

(report by @VinayakD and @AnonnaDutt)https://t.co/nT6Gnv588Y pic.twitter.com/JoUEb8ewYE

— Hindustan Times (@htTweets) April 16, 2021

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Saturday, 17 April 2021 05:16 (three years ago) link

Been terrifying being updated on COVID in rural India. In my parents village (pop of a few 100), they've been burying one or two people everyday with more & more people coughing. Same story in all the neighbouring villages where most people have little or no access to healthcare.

— Ilyas Nagdee (@ilyas_nagdee) April 18, 2021

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 18 April 2021 10:31 (three years ago) link

This is absolutely incredible news 🥳 pic.twitter.com/HaFTgYxv7t

— Nadine Batchelor-Hunt (@nadinebh_) April 22, 2021

xyzzzz__, Friday, 23 April 2021 07:58 (three years ago) link

what?!??

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 23 April 2021 08:03 (three years ago) link

"developed the first jab... to show more than 75% efficacy."

Does this mean there was already a vaccine for malaria at 75%? Because then obviously 77% is better but doesn't seem "incredible"

groovypanda, Friday, 23 April 2021 08:32 (three years ago) link

I’m not sure the significance of 75% but I’m pretty sure the vaccine which rolled out a couple of years ago was something like 30% effective

crisp, Friday, 23 April 2021 08:44 (three years ago) link

Yeah, just googled it and appears there's only one approved vaccine, RTS,S which has pretty low efficacy, especially in kids (who are the most affected by malaria) and also needs 4 doses so this does indeed sound like pretty incredible news if it pans out

groovypanda, Friday, 23 April 2021 08:47 (three years ago) link

is Bill Gates going to take credit for this y/n

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 23 April 2021 09:05 (three years ago) link

Is Bill Gates going to make poverty-stricken villagers pay $7500 per jab is more to the point

john p. coltrane in hot pursuit (Matt #2), Friday, 23 April 2021 09:09 (three years ago) link

Probably

it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Friday, 23 April 2021 11:40 (three years ago) link

...

As soon as BJP government comes to power in West Bengal, COVID-19 vaccine will be provided free of cost to everyone. pic.twitter.com/gzxCOUMjpr

— BJP Bengal (@BJP4Bengal) April 23, 2021

xyzzzz__, Friday, 23 April 2021 13:12 (three years ago) link

Haven't seen this study discussed https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/04/23/mit-researchers-say-youre-no-safer-from-covid-indoors-at-6-feet-or-60-feet-in-new-study.html

Its conclusions go against the six foot social distance rule and make total exposure time the important factor.

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Saturday, 24 April 2021 14:16 (three years ago) link

Headline is bs

Please fix this headline, as the model they used ASSUMES that the room is instantaneously and continuously well-mixed, like if you blow a smoke ring, it immediately spreads evenly throughout the room in zero seconds. The headline is a tautology. @zeynep /1

— Linsey Marr (@linseymarr) April 24, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 24 April 2021 14:17 (three years ago) link

hasn't it been pretty well known that indoor buildings with poor ventilation could spread COVID much further than 6 feet?

Filibuster Poindexter (Neanderthal), Saturday, 24 April 2021 14:20 (three years ago) link

lol nevermind, Linsey said exactly that in another tweet

Filibuster Poindexter (Neanderthal), Saturday, 24 April 2021 14:25 (three years ago) link

Glad I read more than the headline!

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Saturday, 24 April 2021 14:50 (three years ago) link

I think the reason this is confusing is that 6 feet has always been the guideline from the very beginning, but nobody was like "you literally cannot get COVID from someone more than 6 feet from you," it has always been understood that there needs to be a guideline so stores can put markers on the floor, etc., but that likelihood of infection is some function of distance from infected person (which also depends on a hundred other local variables in some complicated way) not some kind of sharp threshold!

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 24 April 2021 17:41 (three years ago) link

Meanwhile in England, people are donning yellow stars with “no covid certificates” on them. Photos from @chloe_adlestone. pic.twitter.com/OCTtFdMFQy

— David M. Perry (@Lollardfish) April 24, 2021

Brits having a normal one

Joe Bombin (milo z), Saturday, 24 April 2021 18:12 (three years ago) link

Same thing happened in Nouméa, of all places. Idiocy spreads fast.

pomenitul, Saturday, 24 April 2021 18:17 (three years ago) link

recurring theme in UK protest unfortunately

Left, Saturday, 24 April 2021 18:19 (three years ago) link

XPs re MIT study:

Many mitigation measures which made sense for past respiratory infections likely had poor returns on effort with Covid-19, a disease that transmits mainly through small respiratory particles (airborne) rather than heavier ones landing on surfaces, mainly between households through superspreader events where only a few asymptomatic / presymptomatic infected generated a lot of infectious particles in indoor spaces with poor ventilation. So much effort screening with thermometers, sanitizing surfaces, mandating mask use outdoors, closing down beaches and parks, was in hindsight rather futile.

From my skim at the paper, the best responses for small businesses would have instead focused on requiring quality masking and limiting occupancy of public interior spaces, and importantly, increasing ventilation, so that each user of those spaces has less potential exposure to "infectious quanta" from current and recent occupants.

Interior choir practice may have been among the most dangerous activities for superspreader events. Lots of potentially assymptomatic/presymptomatic infected participants, producing a lot of respiratory particles, in spaces with limited ventilation. Move it to a breezy beach, and the same activity likely poses little risk.

Songs About Lurking (Sanpaku), Saturday, 24 April 2021 18:21 (three years ago) link

I mean, yeah -- that's why limiting occupancy of public spaces was mandated and masking at the park, in most places at any rate, wasn't.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 24 April 2021 18:57 (three years ago) link

"You're not catching it off surfaces" was already conventional wisdom, like, a year ago

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 24 April 2021 19:01 (three years ago) link

I think the one really big shift over time has been the importance of refreshing indoor air.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 24 April 2021 19:02 (three years ago) link

Infectious quanta of solace

Jurassic parkour (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 24 April 2021 19:17 (three years ago) link

XP eephus!:

There are still businesses that hire disinfection surfaces (which spray down the store with chemical sprayers) when an employee tested positive or transmission is discovered. As I recall, many experts had their doubts, but it wasn't till early this Spring that we started seeing news stories pointing out this probably did more harm than good.

Songs About Lurking (Sanpaku), Saturday, 24 April 2021 22:26 (three years ago) link


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