yes i’m talking about the sport of baseball in case that wasn’t clear.with 7 inning games you could also dispense with the runner on second in extras, which actually does fuck with the internals of the game in the way you’re describing.
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 23:04 (two years ago) link
I think you're underestimating how much eliminating 22% of outs fucks with the internals of the game.
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 23:06 (two years ago) link
i don’t think i am. but i guess we’ll never know!
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 23:09 (two years ago) link
i’ve listed some big changes to the internals upthread. i consider them improvements.
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 23:10 (two years ago) link
Idk if I like the idea of eliminating 2 innings in an era full of relievers who can throw 105 mph strikes, feel like a big market team could dump truckloads of money at those guys and win 110 games
I do like the 3 inning/9 outs idea though. Everyone gets a turn!!
― frogbs, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 23:10 (two years ago) link
pfft come on that’s just rounders
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 23:11 (two years ago) link
But what if everyone got exactly three turns?
― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 23:21 (two years ago) link
Baseboxing - throw hands if tagging isn't feasible
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 23:27 (two years ago) link
Peter Abraham reports:
There are a group of veteran pitchers who call their own games and MLB is expected to approve a PitchCom-type device that would allow the pitcher to signal to the catcher what he plans to throw or change pitches without shaking heads. It will be experimented with in spring training
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 12 December 2022 01:04 (one year ago) link
Feels like at that point sign stealing by electronic means ought to be allowed, and then it can be a battle of the hackers
Give the fans what they want
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 12 December 2022 01:07 (one year ago) link
... if you want to torment Joey Gallo, you can still torment Joey Gallo. You just risk a lot more than a single if he goes to LF. pic.twitter.com/EMBvuXQjzd— Mike Petriello (@mike_petriello) September 10, 2022
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 9 February 2023 08:34 (one year ago) link
i agree w this guy’s argument that this isn’t actually a huge rule change but what i don’t understand is how this creates more risk/reward in shifting. why would teams now start shifting their outfields in this extreme way? something i’m not getting?
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 9 February 2023 08:57 (one year ago) link
Breaking: MLB’s Joint Competition Committee has voted unanimously to make the extra inning rule permanent for all regular season games moving forward. (2023 and beyond). A runner will be placed at second base at the start of every extra inning. Story coming at espn— Jesse Rogers (@JesseRogersESPN) February 13, 2023
― mookieproof, Monday, 13 February 2023 18:53 (one year ago) link
i like it. no more cool stories about how the game went to the 22nd inning and it was horrible for everyone involved, but otherwise, in addition to cutting down on game time, it adds some tension to every extra inning
― President of Destiny Encounters International (Karl Malone), Monday, 13 February 2023 18:56 (one year ago) link
still not sure how it speeds up games, given that both teams get the same "advantage" but i'm sure that was all litigated last year
― na (NA), Monday, 13 February 2023 18:57 (one year ago) link
The competition committee also voted unanimously to allow position players to pitch only in extra innings, in the ninth inning when leading team is up by 10 or more runs or anytime when the trailing team is down by 8 or more.— Jesse Rogers (@JesseRogersESPN) February 13, 2023
― mookieproof, Monday, 13 February 2023 19:00 (one year ago) link
runs per nine innings of regular baseball is (for both teams) 8-something; with the runner starting on second it’s 20-something
― mookieproof, Monday, 13 February 2023 19:06 (one year ago) link
I don't like it--for me, it just bends the basic game out of shape too much. And even though this is demonstrably not true, it always feels like the road team has an advantage (i.e., my guess is the home team is playing from behind more often than not).
― clemenza, Monday, 13 February 2023 19:12 (one year ago) link
Why fucking limit when position players can pitch?! It’s not like teams are doing this for fun. Also won’t this really inhibit any more two-way players?
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 13 February 2023 19:41 (one year ago) link
won’t this really inhibit any more two-way players?
nah
― mookieproof, Monday, 13 February 2023 19:43 (one year ago) link
Only heard a few days ago that they're going to go back to strictly enforcing the balk rule(s) this year. 1) I hope Gausman's not affected too much--there was a game last year where the home-plate ump was just lying in wait for him. 2) They did this one year in the late '80s and it was crazy; balks went up by a few hundred percent, then they ditched that and everything went back to normal the next season.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 22 February 2023 14:52 (one year ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fpwi3bnX0AEZHrp?format=jpg&name=900x900
if this is what it's going to look like in ML parks... i hate this
i know i'm not representative of the general population but my brain is genuinely incapable of tuning something like that out, it's going to be a nonstop battle to keep my attention on the plate
― ✖, Friday, 24 February 2023 21:09 (one year ago) link
San Diego Padres star Manny Machado committed the first pitch-clock violation in a spring-training game, getting docked a strike because he was not set and facing the pitcher in the batter's box when the clock reached 8 seconds.
― mookieproof, Friday, 24 February 2023 21:24 (one year ago) link
that’s not goodplenty of other sports have time limits on things like foul shots and snaps and thereis zero reason to ever present that information to the viewer
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 24 February 2023 22:33 (one year ago) link
xpostenforcing the rule IS good imo
Yeah I support the pitch clock but I don't want to be aware of it ever
― ✖, Friday, 24 February 2023 22:48 (one year ago) link
From the sound of it it barely even registered in the minors once the players got used to it
― ✖, Friday, 24 February 2023 22:49 (one year ago) link
i am pretty sure that, if any stadium includes the pitch clock indicator in the view of the tv cameras, they'll change that quickly
― z_tbd, Friday, 24 February 2023 23:25 (one year ago) link
Just turned into MLB Network and they called someone out or third strike for not being ready. 6 -6 bottom of the ninth. Braves vs Red Sox.
― Bee OK, Saturday, 25 February 2023 20:46 (one year ago) link
Wow
Small sample but through 10 spring training games the average time of game is 2h 34m. That last time MLB games were faster for a season was 1978 (2h30m).— Travis Sawchik (@Travis_Sawchik) February 25, 2023
― mookieproof, Saturday, 25 February 2023 22:22 (one year ago) link
This is a person who has never watched ST baseball:
Do you happen to know what the average time was for spring training games? I have always felt like they were quicker than regular season games.— Dan Schrage (@DSchrage) February 25, 2023
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 25 February 2023 22:55 (one year ago) link
Cal Conley does not get set in time and gets called for the strikeout and the game ends pic.twitter.com/rQ8KOv0Sa6— Gaurav (@gvedak) February 25, 2023
― Bee OK, Saturday, 25 February 2023 23:07 (one year ago) link
i mean...arguably just get in the box and be ready with 8 seconds to go imo
― z_tbd, Saturday, 25 February 2023 23:49 (one year ago) link
well this sucks
https://www.mlb.com/news/luis-garcia-to-adjust-windup-due-to-2023-rule-changes
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 27 February 2023 10:35 (one year ago) link
For those concerned that the pitch clock is so prominent in the background of at-bats during spring-training games: The plan in big league ballparks is for it to be out of view of the center-field camera. In other words: TV viewers will not see the physical clock during pitches.— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) February 25, 2023
― na (NA), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 17:31 (one year ago) link
cherry picked clips, of course, but
Landon Knack throwing an entire half inning vs. Pedro Báez throwing 1 pitch. pic.twitter.com/wHa2p6K7k8— Rob Friedman (@PitchingNinja) February 27, 2023
― z_tbd, Thursday, 2 March 2023 16:03 (one year ago) link
Yankees relief pitcher Wandy Peralta struck out a hitter in 20 seconds pic.twitter.com/VwEBzyXH99— Jomboy Media (@JomboyMedia) March 2, 2023
― na (NA), Friday, 3 March 2023 15:50 (one year ago) link
i love it! and you know what i think i’m going to love it in the post-season too. bring on the craziness.
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 3 March 2023 16:57 (one year ago) link
yeah the pitch clock seems good so far. there are going to be some dumb controversial calls at crucial moments ("how can a playoff game end this way" etc) but the games i've watched seem a lot peppier for sure
― na (NA), Friday, 3 March 2023 17:27 (one year ago) link
Max Scherzer, Pitch Clock Gamesmanship.Long hold. Adams takes his only time out. Then Max stays set so he can pitch as soon as Adams is ready. pic.twitter.com/3uj9ucDFEl— Rob Friedman (@PitchingNinja) March 3, 2023
― na (NA), Friday, 3 March 2023 18:48 (one year ago) link
Gausman and the balk rule (paywall maybe, not sure):
https://theathletic.com/4277023/2023/03/06/kevin-gausman-delivery-rule-change-balks/
"...it’s a problem for Gausman, because he’s currently starring in a not-so-major motion picture from MLB’s new 'Mess with Your Dreamworks' studios.
It’s a little video feature, shown by MLB to managers and media alike this spring, on now-illegal pitching deliveries. And it stars Gausman, along with Houston righty Luis Garcia, as toe-tappers or false-starters whose old delivery is now considered by MLB to be a balk."
― clemenza, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 16:45 (one year ago) link
I’m watching a spring training game in which 9 runs have already scored, and we’re heading into the bottom of the 7th, and just passed 2 hours of game time. This shit appears to be working
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 20 March 2023 19:07 (one year ago) link
That Scherzer clip above is so funny. What a maniac!
― can i play with march madness? (PBKR), Monday, 20 March 2023 19:29 (one year ago) link
watching white sox/a’s spring training game and the chyron has the pitch clock but not the number of outs
― na (NA), Friday, 24 March 2023 22:19 (one year ago) link
The Tigers and Guardians played a doubleheader in four hours, 13 minutes.
― Andy K, Wednesday, 19 April 2023 01:07 (eleven months ago) link
!!
― Michael F Gill, Wednesday, 19 April 2023 01:12 (eleven months ago) link
https://www.espn.co.uk/mlb/story/_/id/36226372/mlb-eyes-more-rule-changes-experiment-atlantic-league
Thoughts?
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 19 April 2023 03:30 (eleven months ago) link
overkill, by a lot
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 19 April 2023 04:56 (eleven months ago) link
Love baseball’s commitment to bad science
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 19 April 2023 11:03 (eleven months ago) link