Free Speech and Creepy Liberalism

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Yeah, I think it would actually have made the article more credible if they had just acknowledged that, but then again he was p much just acting like every libertarian I went to college with so maybe they're deaf to it

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 12 April 2021 12:52 (three years ago) link

I mean I can also def remember being that kind of sexually frustrated, overeager know-it-all mansplaining dork a few times in college, not from a right/libertarian perspective but probably with similar effect.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 12 April 2021 12:53 (three years ago) link

four weeks pass...

Baffert: My horse is a victim of cancel culture pic.twitter.com/PgWWtiidAI

— Andrew Feinberg (@AndrewFeinberg) May 10, 2021

Josefa, Monday, 10 May 2021 22:53 (two years ago) link

Cancel Culture Killed My Dog

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 00:13 (two years ago) link

Cancel Culture is the NAME OF MY DOG

sarahell, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 20:08 (two years ago) link

five months pass...

Yooooooo, who’s going to get their philosophy degree from Bari Weiss/Joe Rogan university?

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 8 November 2021 16:06 (two years ago) link

Was sure it would be about the framing of this shit.

pic.twitter.com/GJb8kCc7oj

— Sally Hines (@sally_hines) November 8, 2021



Also here’s the BBC platforming the framing that reactionaries have helpfully supplied for these issues: https://www.bbc.com/news/education-59148324

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Monday, 8 November 2021 16:17 (two years ago) link

Kathleen Stock is on faculty at the new university, so it all connects: https://www.uaustin.org/

Trying to imagine what these courses will be like. How many different ways can you be daringly racist?

You have to get niche and use ethnic slurs not seen since the 18th century.

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 8 November 2021 16:31 (two years ago) link

What's Latin for "No Refunds"?

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 8 November 2021 16:33 (two years ago) link

Caveat emptor

That time a libertarian I met in China used that as the basis to argue against any regulation or certification of dentists, lmao. (He was ‘Murican of course.)

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Monday, 8 November 2021 16:57 (two years ago) link

Isn't that why Rand Paul made up his own medical org for accreditation?

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 8 November 2021 17:17 (two years ago) link

the only thing that could make dentists worse is doing away with licensing. can you imagine. i always think of this https://abc13.com/thom-tillis-hand-washing-restaurants-comments/503061/

certified juice therapist (harbl), Monday, 8 November 2021 17:37 (two years ago) link

“I said I don't have a problem with Starbucks if they choose to opt out of this policy as long as they post a sign that says we don't require our employees to wash their hands after leaving the restroom," Tillis said to audience laughter. "The market will take care of that."


“And if you can’t afford sufficient primary medical care, the market will take care you too. Lol!”

I was going to say they’re such idiots but this is actually somewhere on the sociopath-psychopath spectrum.

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Monday, 8 November 2021 17:51 (two years ago) link

I remember those comments, I call him Poop Hand Thom now

Cool Im An Situation (Neanderthal), Monday, 8 November 2021 17:56 (two years ago) link

it IS kind of interesting how willing conservatives are to embrace reactive policies like "wait for restaurants to get customers sick/killed, then the market will take care of it", whereas in terms of national security, they are ok with pre-emptively deporting people who just look the wrong way color.

Cool Im An Situation (Neanderthal), Monday, 8 November 2021 17:57 (two years ago) link

It’s a one-fork flowchart - “is this a benefit to capital? Y/N”

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 8 November 2021 18:06 (two years ago) link

Ah, I wondered if there was talk of the Forbidden Courses University anywhere. Insane grifting from the purportedly cancelled.

emil.y, Monday, 8 November 2021 19:21 (two years ago) link

If they had the courage of their convictions — or if they had convictions — they'd locate in some libertarian paradise like rural South Dakota. Instead they get to make noise about moving to freedom-loving Texas, while settling in a liberal metropolis full of coffee shops and bike lanes.

Who will be the Aaron Rodgers Chair of Doing Your Own Research?

A Pile of Ants (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 8 November 2021 20:18 (two years ago) link

Second major resignation from a key post at Bari Weiss' unaccredited grifter university since it went public this monthhttps://t.co/QT4gJxYDAj

— Andrés Pertierra (@ASPertierra) November 15, 2021

mens rea activist (k3vin k.), Monday, 15 November 2021 18:13 (two years ago) link

Will he have to return his gold-plated skull calipers?

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 15 November 2021 18:24 (two years ago) link

Andrew Sullivan was on 60 Minutes this weekend - anybody know if it was a plug for Grifter U., or for Substack "conservatism" more generally?

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 15 November 2021 18:48 (two years ago) link

"calipers" is a fabulous word

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 November 2021 19:01 (two years ago) link

but CALPERS is just another cryptic acronym

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 15 November 2021 19:25 (two years ago) link

By mutual & amicable agreement, I'm stepping off the Board of Advisors of U of Austin #UATX, wishing them well. I'm concentrating on Rationality (the book) and Think With Pinker (the BBC radio & podcast series) & won't be speaking on this further. https://t.co/xgo7exT61C

— Steven Pinker (@sapinker) November 15, 2021

Stinker out

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 16 November 2021 05:39 (two years ago) link

he was revealing himself a bit too openly with that one

adam t. (abanana), Tuesday, 16 November 2021 06:04 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

what is cryptic about CALifornia Public Employees Retirement System? It's not a particularly imaginative acronym

sarahell, Thursday, 16 December 2021 00:53 (two years ago) link

Thanks, sarahell. I never realized it before this moment, but now I see that if you expand CALPERS to show all the words it has abbreviated, suddenly it isn't even remotely cryptic! Anyone can figure it out! I'll try this with other acronyms and see if that trick works with them, too!

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 16 December 2021 01:01 (two years ago) link

Sometimes I get it confused with CLASPERS, because I'm a shark pervert.

peace, man, Thursday, 16 December 2021 01:07 (two years ago) link

I put calpers on my pizza

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Thursday, 16 December 2021 03:35 (two years ago) link

Skull CALPERS

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 16 December 2021 03:45 (two years ago) link

all I'm saying is that California is a very populous state with a lot of government employees and one of the main reasons people choose to work for the state government is benefits such as a pension, administered by CALPERS, from which they receive immense volumes of correspondence throughout their careers and retirement. This is not to be confused with CALSTERS -- the California State Teachers Employee Retirement System, which is separate.

sarahell, Friday, 17 December 2021 02:39 (two years ago) link

oh, so that's what you were saying. sorry, that went right over my head. I'll try to pay better attention in the future.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 17 December 2021 03:48 (two years ago) link

Or CALPIRG, those bright-eyed kids with the card tables.

peace, man, Friday, 17 December 2021 11:09 (two years ago) link

aiui many exhibits in the Ghislaine trial are shown only to the jury and a lot of stuff is heavily redacted, but I’m just going to wildly speculate that Pinker showed up in one too many photos from Epstein’s private collection

caddy lac brougham? (will), Friday, 17 December 2021 12:49 (two years ago) link

xp - idk to me, a cryptic acronym, is either one where you have no idea how the acronym was derived from the name of the thing, or one where even if you know what the full name is, it is still unclear what the thing actually is or does.

sarahell, Friday, 17 December 2021 16:01 (two years ago) link

Like compare these in terms of "cryptic-ness"

BUTT - Bouncing Undulating Twerking Tool

vs

BUTT - Bettering Understanding Transitional Talismans

sarahell, Friday, 17 December 2021 16:06 (two years ago) link

can a mod add a new ILX autoreplace?

Vangelis fleadh (seandalai), Monday, 20 December 2021 13:21 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

Michael Eisen has been canned from eLife. He’s tenured at Berkley so it’s a stretch to describe it as “being canceled.” Twitter is filled with posts about free speech in defense of Eisen and, in a variety of ways, Eisen is representative of creepy liberalism.

I usually don’t have feelings or opinions about these culture or political issues but I, for whatever reason, can’t stop thinking about this today. Eisen is a great scientist but Eisen was a terrible editor.

Allen (etaeoe), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 20:53 (six months ago) link

There’s also a personal component for me. Because of his following and position he’s the major example of being a bipolar academic on social media. I genuinely feel like I’m a moment from posting something really dumb.

Allen (etaeoe), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 20:55 (six months ago) link

he can be a terrible editor and suck in a variety of ways but if he was removed from a post due to retweeting an onion article that's still worthy of condemnation.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 21:04 (six months ago) link

I agree. Nevertheless, the eLife letter claims it’s because of multiple (unnamed) incidents. I believe this wasn’t entirely about posting The Onion article. Especially when that’s, compared to some of his other posts, relatively innocuous.

Allen (etaeoe), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 21:10 (six months ago) link

My first thought when I see stories like that--and I freely admit I know nothing more about this case than what you have posted here--is that there was probably sexual misconduct at the back of it.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 21:13 (six months ago) link

I agree. Nevertheless, the eLife letter claims it’s because of multiple (unnamed) incidents. I believe this wasn’t entirely about posting The Onion article. Especially when that’s, compared to some of his other posts, relatively innocuous.

― Allen (etaeoe), Tuesday, October 24, 2023 5:10 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

could you just…say what’s on your mind here? his canning is facially, incontrovertibly preposterous. what other beef do you have exactly?

k3vin k., Wednesday, 25 October 2023 04:52 (six months ago) link

Posted about this case because it just seemed the weirdest one. But I see tweets like "an academic has been suspended" or "I lost a freelance gig" etc.

Utterly vile. "Free speech" as conducted in liberal democracies is an utter sham.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 25 October 2023 10:04 (six months ago) link

Unsurprisingly, the craven art world seems to be operating similarly as many universities— Artforum Fires Top Editor After Open Letter on Israel-Hamas War

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 27 October 2023 11:29 (six months ago) link

More on that kerfuffle— artworks have been returned and artists told to “stay in line.”

https://theintercept.com/2023/10/26/artforum-artists-gaza-ceasefire-martin-eisenberg/

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 27 October 2023 12:15 (six months ago) link

"In the future we'll launder money and dodge taxes with only ethnic cleansing-supportive art."

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 27 October 2023 13:40 (six months ago) link

A paragraph from that Intercept link that jumped out

The authors of the response letter — the joint directors of Lévy Gorvy Dayan, which has gallery spaces and offices in New York, London, Paris, and Hong Kong — curate shows with some of the most prolific and highest grossing artists in the world, both living and dead. Their website lists Jean-Michel Basquiat, Gerhard Richter, Andy Warhol, Cy Twombly, Joel Mesler, and Adrian Piper as representative artists and collaborators. Dayan is the granddaughter of Moshe Dayan, the Israeli politician and military commander who is alleged to have ordered the country’s military to attack the American naval ship the USS Liberty during the Six-Day War of 1967

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 28 October 2023 21:38 (six months ago) link


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