Mike Trout needs his own thread

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lol he has rendon hitting behind him and is still being walked 25% of the time

mookieproof, Monday, 12 April 2021 04:30 (three years ago) link

meanwhile albert is managing a sturdy -0.2fWAR in 6 games

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Monday, 12 April 2021 04:35 (three years ago) link

this trout guy does seem to be good though

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Monday, 12 April 2021 04:36 (three years ago) link

just hit his sixth homer, leads the league with 267 wRC+ now. I think it’s funny how every year there’s an article about the people who are going to surpass trout and nope, he’s the best and it’s not close

k3vin k., Wednesday, 21 April 2021 20:25 (two years ago) link

tbf acuña is making a case

mookieproof, Wednesday, 21 April 2021 20:37 (two years ago) link

trout has a .500+ OBP rn

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 21 April 2021 21:31 (two years ago) link

yeah his BABIP is over .500

frogbs, Wednesday, 21 April 2021 21:50 (two years ago) link

Seems like every year there’s also an article saying “...and he finally has a decent team behind him!”

Michael F Gill, Thursday, 22 April 2021 17:11 (two years ago) link

I wonder if he and Connor McDavid ever talk. I don’t know if either of them are household names in the U.S.

Michael F Gill, Thursday, 22 April 2021 17:15 (two years ago) link

he’s the best and it’s not close

If he keeps going like this all season, no question, still the best. But I don't agree with the "not close"--Betts, Acuna, Tatis (if he keeps going), and Soto (weaker in the field) are all close; if Trout were to go back to the level he played at last season, I think he'd be surpassed. I'd hold off on this question right now.

clemenza, Thursday, 22 April 2021 18:05 (two years ago) link

trout  .393/.507/.804, 6 HR, .533 BABIP, 29% K%
acuña .419/.486/.887, 7 HR, .413 BABIP, 14% K%
buxton .432/.479/.977, 6 HR, .464 BABIP, 21% K%

they're all even in WAR. trout/acuña have played 16 games, buxton only 12

this sort of offense is new for buxton, but if he can maintain even a portion of it, his god-like defense will carry him a long way. (acuña is being dinged for defense thus far)

anyway none of them are likely to carry on like this, but nevertheless i wouldn't say trout is miles ahead

mookieproof, Thursday, 22 April 2021 18:35 (two years ago) link

I think the best piece of evidence for how close this is is that, going back to 2016, Betts is tied with Trout for bWAR, 38.2 each. I think most of you prefer Fangraphs: it's Trout 38.7, Betts 34.1 there. But that's still pretty close.

clemenza, Friday, 23 April 2021 01:14 (two years ago) link

and even that is with trout playing 50 fewer games. the basis of most of the articles I read is the projections which not unfairly assume trout will play less than full seasons, but when he’s suited up he’s still the goat

k3vin k., Friday, 23 April 2021 04:05 (two years ago) link

wild how he’s still in the top 15 in sprint speed, and also how he doesn’t try to steal bases anymore!

https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/sprint_speed_leaderboard

k3vin k., Monday, 26 April 2021 20:58 (two years ago) link

poor albert

mookieproof, Monday, 26 April 2021 21:05 (two years ago) link

3-3 tonight, welcome back

k3vin k., Tuesday, 27 April 2021 01:27 (two years ago) link

You'll like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEnCJixeLI8

clemenza, Tuesday, 27 April 2021 01:41 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

mr injured is injured again ;_;

k3vin k., Tuesday, 18 May 2021 13:06 (two years ago) link

6-8 weeks, fuck

k3vin k., Tuesday, 18 May 2021 22:57 (two years ago) link

ugh

, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 23:09 (two years ago) link

nail in the coffin of the angels playoff hopes too

, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 23:10 (two years ago) link

will he still lead MLB in WAR y/n

mookieproof, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 23:30 (two years ago) link

Doubtful with Acuna and Guerrero playing the way they are...Just asking the question makes your point, though.

clemenza, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 00:01 (two years ago) link

At least Mickey Mantle was getting blowjobs under the bleachers when he was injured.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 02:00 (two years ago) link

wait, what's that

parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 02:08 (two years ago) link

wow! the mick!

parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 03:01 (two years ago) link

eight months pass...

mike trout is looking forward to this snowstorm

Need models to shift a little west still..we still have time only Wednesday 💪🏻💪🏻

— Mike Trout (@MikeTrout) January 26, 2022

mookieproof, Wednesday, 26 January 2022 20:57 (two years ago) link

dude loves weather

auld gang syne (k3vin k.), Thursday, 27 January 2022 02:27 (two years ago) link

three months pass...

Trout, 30, joined some elite company, as he became the third player in Major League history with at least 1,000 runs, 300 home runs and 200 stolen bases by an age-30 season, joining Willie Mays and Alex Rodriguez. And over the last 60 years, he became the fifth-fastest to 1,000 career runs by games played. It took Trout 1,325 games to reach the milestone and the only players who reached it in fewer games over the last 60 years were Rickey Henderson (1,252), Rodriguez (1,261), Kenny Lofton (1,305) and Albert Pujols (1,306).

https://www.mlb.com/news/mike-trout-scores-1-000th-career-run

clemenza, Sunday, 22 May 2022 17:24 (one year ago) link

Trout, Henderson, Rodriguez, Lofton, Pujols

Lofton was an outstanding player and one of my favorites, growing up, but one of these players does not belong!

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Sunday, 22 May 2022 17:26 (one year ago) link

I would agree, although highly underrated, and I think the VC will put him into the HOF one day. One of the players whose greatest season came in the strike year of '94.

clemenza, Sunday, 22 May 2022 17:36 (one year ago) link

trout putting up that many runs for the Angels of 2012-2022 is pretty incredible on its own

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Sunday, 22 May 2022 17:43 (one year ago) link

I was poking around to see if I could find out how fast Raines got there and came across this:

"Ted Williams is the fastest recorded player in MLB history to score 1,000 runs; he scored his 1,000th run in his 1,097th game." So they seem to have chosen a convenient cut-off point of 60 years--Williams was a lot faster, and I'm guessing Ruth, Hornsby, and some others were too.

clemenza, Sunday, 22 May 2022 18:34 (one year ago) link

four weeks pass...

"He became the first player in AL/NL history to hit four game-winning home runs in a single series, according to Stats by STATS."

https://www.mlb.com/news/mike-trout-homers-5-times-in-series-vs-mariners

clemenza, Monday, 20 June 2022 14:41 (one year ago) link

been thinking about reviving the old “this team fucking stinks” Mariners thread, pretty sure Trout produced more runs than the entire Mariners offense over the series.

JoeStork, Monday, 20 June 2022 19:30 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

happy 31st

mookieproof, Sunday, 7 August 2022 20:11 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

Homered in his sixth straight game tonight; record is still eight (Griffey, Mattingly, and the ever-mysterious Dale Long).

clemenza, Sunday, 11 September 2022 01:18 (one year ago) link

still the best player in the league

k3vin k., Sunday, 11 September 2022 05:27 (one year ago) link

Even with all the games he missed he's still having an awesome season. I was surprised to see that after yesterday's game, he's somehow up to 33 HR (in less than 100 GP).

NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 11 September 2022 07:11 (one year ago) link

Seven straight

frogbs, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 00:59 (one year ago) link

Beat me to it...As great as Bichette has been, he just won player of the week and I'm not sure he should have; I'd have to compare them.

clemenza, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 01:01 (one year ago) link

And then, after almost getting his skull crushed in the 6th, Bichette wins it with a 2-run homer in the 8th.

clemenza, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 01:51 (one year ago) link

In case you were wondering (like they--whoever they is--spend more than seven seconds determining Player of the Week):

Bichette: .500/.529/1.156, 5 HR, 13 RBI
Trout: .450/.500/1.300, 5 HR, 8 RBI

Bichette had many more PA, 34 to 22.

clemenza, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 02:10 (one year ago) link

eight months pass...

taking a look at his fangraphs page today...some pretty concerning things here

his walk rate has plummeted to about 10.5% over his last 700 PAs, after having hovered around 18% from 2016 through 2021. his swing rate is at an all-time high (44%), and actually has a below-career average O-swing% and his career highest Z-swing% by a lot (72%)...but he just can't hit the ball like he used to. his O-contact% has been steady at about 60% over the last 3 seasons, after having been about 70% every other year. and his Z-contact% has been about 80% over the last 3 seasons after being about 90% before that

also about an average baserunner over the past 4 seasons after being one of the 5 or so best before that

k3vin k., Wednesday, 24 May 2023 16:23 (ten months ago) link

sort of surprised there's not more talk about this

k3vin k., Wednesday, 24 May 2023 16:25 (ten months ago) link

I hope he's able to adjust, he's not having a bad season or anything but obviously it's not up to his usual standards. I really hope he doesn't fall off a cliff like pujols.

omar little, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 16:42 (ten months ago) link

Possible that he aggravated his back condition in the outfield & is playing through pain? Though haven’t watched the Angels enough to see how he’s been going out there. I guess on any other team they might think about having him DH if it was a serious concern besides the obvious issue with this team.

TY FRANCE HATES TEXAS CONFIRMED (gyac), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 16:56 (ten months ago) link

On July 12, 2022 he had a T5 costovertebral dysfunction (dislocated a rib?). Was kinda brushed off by Angels docs but seems significant... eg, rotational trunk torque. Seems like he's still Mike Trout just at 85-90% of peak.

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 16:59 (ten months ago) link

(xpost) I don't expect him to fall off a cliff; I would guess his aging pattern might be more like maybe Aaron's, where he becomes more of a HR hitter and less of that across-the-board greatest-ever guy. I could see him having more seasons like Aaron's '72-74 (40 HR in 392 AB in '73).

clemenza, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 17:03 (ten months ago) link


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